Do you know any good lawyers?Gradofan wrote: ↑Wed Oct 04, 2017 3:31 pmAs I posted in another thread here re: FEB - DON'T WASTE YOUR MONEY - IT DOESN'T WORK AS ADVERTISED BY NISSAN!
We have the 2017.5 SL with all the upgrades (Premium / Platinum) and you are correct - THE FEB SYSTEM DOES NOT WORK AS ADVERTISED, OR PRESENTED IN THE MANUALS - which clearly show the vehicle warning you about 4 car lengths ahead of impact, gentle braking 3 car lengths ahead of impact and stopping you about 1/2 car length ahead of impact with the object in front of you.
There is no misunderstanding - it simply doesn't work as advertised and represented by Nissan.
This one is going to lead to some large class action suits!
I think that guy who has been posting negative comments all over the forum is a con-artist and wants to humiliate everyone that the system doesn't work. How about giving him a great tip of trading his fully loaded Rogue for a base model Rogue? That'll teach that scammer a lesson, or even better, get an SL trim that doesn't have the darn feature.kboo74 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 05, 2017 4:37 pmStop posting your lie all over the forum. It has already been disproven and really you need to stop whining. If you don’t like the car, TRADE IT OR JUNK IT! This forum has a solid track record of helping others when they have questions and concerns. Go do a real life test of the FEB and let us know what happens. By the way hire a lawyer since you probably get severly sued by many. Go away.
Ken
Update on my issue. Nissan requested the dealer adjust and calibrate the camera. No luck on fixing it. The issue they said is the clip on the windshield the camera attaches to is "broken", and the only way to get a new one is to replace the windshield. It comes as part of the windshield, attached already, not independently. So, back to Safelite I went, since they installed the replacement windshield. They took another look, and say it's not a broken clip, but they agree the camera isn't attaching correctly to it, it's "off" somewhere and they agree it's not correct. They're ordering another windshield and will be replacing it next week.mmascari wrote: ↑Fri Aug 24, 2018 1:14 pmHas anyone replaced a windshield and had any FEB issues? If so, what was done to resolve them?
Had my windshield replace recently (done by Safelite), and everything looked good the first day. Sometime shortly after the FEB light started to flash, and has continued to flash since. Took it to the dealer, assuming they would just calibrate the camera and it would be resolved. They pulled the codes from the computer, found one for dirt in front of the radar, washed the car, cleared the code, and gave the car back. Left the lot, and the light is still flashing. Went right back, they pulled the codes again, and they don't find any codes at all. So, they don't see any trouble codes, have nothing to fix, yet the light still flashes and the FEB/LDW doesn't work (LDP will not turn on either). They're reaching out to Nissan for guidance, since the two computer systems clearly don't agree that things are fine or not. I asked if they could just do the calibration for the windshield camera anyway, but they say it will not do anything since there's no code for it.
A hopefully final resolution. Safelite put in new glass. I went to the Safelite shop after the install to have the computer done, but they don't have the Nissan software yet. In theory, they're getting it this week and will call to have the calibration done. Not wanting to wait, I went back to the dealer again. After a false start or two, they were finally able to clear all the warnings and get it to recalibrate. They hope is that it really sticks and doesn't have bracket issues later. The two clips that hold the camera just barely do so. It's not the strongest of attachments.mmascari wrote: ↑Thu Sep 06, 2018 2:24 pmUpdate on my issue. Nissan requested the dealer adjust and calibrate the camera. No luck on fixing it. The issue they said is the clip on the windshield the camera attaches to is "broken", and the only way to get a new one is to replace the windshield. It comes as part of the windshield, attached already, not independently. So, back to Safelite I went, since they installed the replacement windshield. They took another look, and say it's not a broken clip, but they agree the camera isn't attaching correctly to it, it's "off" somewhere and they agree it's not correct. They're ordering another windshield and will be replacing it next week.mmascari wrote: ↑Fri Aug 24, 2018 1:14 pmHas anyone replaced a windshield and had any FEB issues? If so, what was done to resolve them?
Had my windshield replace recently (done by Safelite), and everything looked good the first day. Sometime shortly after the FEB light started to flash, and has continued to flash since. Took it to the dealer, assuming they would just calibrate the camera and it would be resolved. They pulled the codes from the computer, found one for dirt in front of the radar, washed the car, cleared the code, and gave the car back. Left the lot, and the light is still flashing. Went right back, they pulled the codes again, and they don't find any codes at all. So, they don't see any trouble codes, have nothing to fix, yet the light still flashes and the FEB/LDW doesn't work (LDP will not turn on either). They're reaching out to Nissan for guidance, since the two computer systems clearly don't agree that things are fine or not. I asked if they could just do the calibration for the windshield camera anyway, but they say it will not do anything since there's no code for it.
The dealers explanation was that because the camera isn't being held tight, it's bouncing and that's what's causing the error. New glass from the dealer is twice as much as Safelite, before including dealer labor too. Plus, I already paid Safelite to fix it. So, while I wait, I've gone from flashing FEB light, so solid FEB light and yellow malfunction indicator.
We have an incredible SEARCH feature on this forum. Merged with existing thread. Please read the previous posts.crackon4488 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 21, 2019 3:08 pmHi. I own a 2018 Rogue SL Pro-Pilot. I have not been able to get my FEB to indicate that its working. I have tried everything short of actually running into something. The "pedestrian detecting" doesn't seem any better. My salesman and I took a 2019 for a drive to see if there was any difference, but the result was the same. He told me the 2017 he was given to use from new would beep and sometimes auto brake when he got to close to a vehicle as it was merging on to an off ramp so he was at a loss to explain what was going on with the 2018/19. Does anyone have any ideas/thoughts on this? Have any of you tried to confirm yours is working? Thanks for any input.
"Is it normal?" For Nissan, yes. Read the answers people left on the POLL: Would You Buy Another Nissan?.AbHat wrote: ↑Mon Jan 06, 2020 4:57 amFolks I had this happen yesterday intermittently on my 2019 Rogue. The FEB light came on for about 15 minutes and went away after the restart. I was driving in the night with very light traffic here in Maryland. The temp was about 36F. The car did not brake or anything. But the just the light came on flashed for a while and during the next restart the flashing went away. It was annoying considering how new the vehicle is. Is it normal or should I take it to the dealer for check up.
Because that would cost more manufacturing money, and these early primitive self-driving systems are not yet sophisticated enough to be anything but a marketing gimmick and something that can result in erratic and unpredictable mechanical performance that likely can lead to dangerous unintended consequences. These systems should not be sold at all, from Nissan or any other manufacturer. They likely cause more problems than they solve and that will continue until the technology is improved to such a great degree that fully autonomous cars can become much more prevalent and dominant in the marketplace.AbHat wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 3:56 amThe light came on yesterday again during driving in heavy snow. I pulled ever couple of times and noticed condensation/snow accumulation on the Nissan logo. I cleaned it. The light would go away but would come back again. Shame on Nissan for design such c**p system which is vulnerable to these waether situations. That means if you live in snow belt you can't use the FEB during winter. Why not have some redundancy or place the radar in a different spot.
AbHat wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 2:42 pmI don't disagree with you guys. Nissan should allow deactivation of FEB completely. I know you can do that in setting but that brings the warning light on and it stays on permanently and during next shut down and start of the car the FEB is ON again. Then you need to turn it off again. . Its pretty annoying to do that and drive a car with a warning light permanently on the instrument cluster. It would be ideal to deactivate FEB permanently and the warning no longer appears.
Timnc34 wrote: ↑Fri Aug 24, 2018 2:52 pmOkay this is what you need to do! Print out these papers and slam it in their faces just like what I did to get SH*T moving LAST WEEK!!! I've been dealing with my FEB starting 10 days after I got the vehicle on March 19th 2018 I have a Rogue SL AWD. I have over 14 videos to prove to them of what has happen! They said the same thing to me and I didn't back down!! They're going to make you out like you're crazy ( NO CODES )!! VIDEO VIDEO VIDEO!!! THEY DO HAVE A SERVICE BULLETIN UPDATE! THE UPDATE WAS POSTED 7-30-18 AND IT'S CALLED (TSB #NTB18-041) THIS UPDATE IS FOR THE (FEB) I've also have been dealing with Nissan Consumer Affairs to get things moving too! Phone: (800) NISSAN-1 (or 800-647-7261) go ahead and file a complaint with them! This will help you out too! Give them details of what is happening!! I'm at the point that I'm in the NC LEMON LAW! Key point for you is DOCUMENT EVERYTHING AND GET YOUR INVOICES FROM THE DEALERSHIP! Oh yeah they came back with the NO CODES BS with me too!! DO NOT BACK DOWN!! This can be a liability and it's unsafe for you and others around you while driving! Check out the links below! Have a good day and I hope this information helps!
Tim
https://www.nhtsa.gov/vehicle/2018/NISS ... complaints
WHILE DRIVING STRAIGHT AT APPROXIMATELY 25-30 MPH ON A CITY STREET WITH A SLIGHT INCLINE AND NO OTHER VEHICLES AROUND OR INCONSISTENCIES IN THE ROAD SURFACE, THE VEHICLE MADE A HARD AND ABRUPT DECELERATION COMBINED WITH A GRINDING SOUND FOR ABOUT 2-3 SECONDS THEN RESUMED NORMAL OPERATION. THE VEHICLE HAD BEEN PURCHASED 2 DAYS EARLIER AND HAD ABOUT 40 MILES ON THE ODOMETER. WHEN CONTACTED, THE SALES STAFF CLAIMED NO KNOWLEDGE OF A PROBLEM BUT THE DEALERSHIP'S SERVICE DEPARTMENT ACKNOWLEDGED THEY HAD A TECHNICAL SERVICE BULLETIN (TSB 18-041A) ALERTING THEM OF THE ISSUE AND THEY HAD IN FACT DEALT WITH SIMILAR SITUATIONS WITHIN THAT SERVICE DEPARTMENT. THEY RAN DIAGNOSTIC TESTS ON OUR VEHICLE AND THE LASER CONTROL MODULE FOR THE EMERGENCY BRAKING SYSTEM FAILED. THEY REPROGRAMMED IT, TESTED IT, AND IT FAILED AGAIN. THEY ORDERED A NEW CKD LASER CONTROL UNIT, REPROGRAMMED IT, PERFORMED SENSOR CALIBRATION, ROAD TESTED IT AND SAY THEY VERIFIED ALL WARNING LIGHTS ARE OUT AND NO CODES ARE RESET. THEY OFFERED TO REPLACE THE VEHICLE. THIS SEEMS TO BE A RANDOM AND SYSTEMIC PROBLEM.
AND ALSO PRINT THIS AND SHOW THEM!!!!
http://www.nissanproblems.com/vehicles/ ... /#10143274
TSB #NTB18-041
Posted 2018-07-30
260000 FORWARD COLLISION AVOIDANCE bulletin for the 2018 Rogue
2018 ROGUE, ROGUE HYBRID AND ROGUE SPORT; UNEXPECTED OPERATION OF AEB, FEB OR FCW IF YOU CONFIRM The following system(s) operate unexpectedly or the customer reports unexpected operation: - AEB (Automatic Emergency Braking) - FEB (For
NHTSA has assigned ID #10143274 to this bulletin. You can get more detailed information on how to fix the problem.