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2017.5 Nissan Rogue sv midnight Edition
With forward emergency braking
I like the car but I don't understand
How they can call it forward emergency braking if it can't brake
And the warning beep is too late to avoid a accident am I missing something?


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It will brake if there is a imminent accident about to happen. Have you been that close to hitting a car in front of you? You probably should read the owners manual as it will break for you at last moment after giving you a audible warning. Again read the owners manual.
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It's an EMERGENCY braking system. It can activate the brakes in an EMERGENCY. Also, as with anything mechanical, it ain't foolproof.


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No the sv 17.5 does not have pedestrian
And doesn't do anything that video shows it's false advertising and it doesn't brake
And the dealer won't tell you that when you buy it so be aware and they will act like they didn't know and Nissan acts like they didn't know
So if you want forward emergency braking
It only comes in the sl or Platinum model
With pedestrian
Otherwise their is no braking

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You might be assuming you got a 17.5 because you bought it in the 2nd half of the year, but it sounds like you got a 2017 model.

kellybrown

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Wrong it's a 17.5 midnight Edition
If they don't have pedestrian warning
They don't brake and theirs no video
To show you what it does

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kellybrown wrote:
Mon Sep 04, 2017 12:39 am
No the sv 17.5 does not have pedestrian
And doesn't do anything that video shows it's false advertising and it doesn't brake
And the dealer won't tell you that when you buy it so be aware and they will act like they didn't know and Nissan acts like they didn't know
So if you want forward emergency braking
It only comes in the sl or Platinum model
With pedestrian
Otherwise their is no braking
And you're basing these accusations on what??? Give us some background instead of histrionic outbursts. Other than what someone at the dealership may or may not have told you, you'll need to provide more details so we can sort this out.

Do you still have the Monroney sticker? It will be marked with your car's model year and equipment/accessories. If you have it, scan it and post it here.
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Just so you know, Forward Emergency Braking (FEB) is standard equipment on ALL Rogues, starting with the 2017.5 model. Forward Emergency Braking (FEB) with Pedestrian Detection as well as Moving Object Detection (MOD) are NOT available on the Midnight Edition.

In summation, you own a 2017.5 Midnight Edition
Q: Does your car have Forward Emergency Braking?
A: YES

Q: Does your car have Forward Emergency Braking (FEB) with Pedestrian Detection?
A: NO. This option is not available on this model

Q: Does your car have Moving Object Detection (MOD)?
A: NO. This option is not available on this model

IF someone at the dealership told you your car had the last two features they were either misinformed, or they lied. Unfortunately there's little you can do about that.

You haven't made clear whether you experienced a problem. You should know that as Forward Emergency Braking (FEB) is new for the Rogue, it is possible that it's not working correctly. If you think there's something wrong with it, then you should have the dealership check it for you, rather than accuse Nissan of false advertising.

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Yes I stated that the sv does not have pedestrian and only has a radar not a camera
As well and they cannot calibrate it
And their is no braking and their is no 2 warnings as in the video so do your homework
And if you want braking don't buy their sv version of nothing lol

kellybrown

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Rogue SV 17.5 is not available with forward emergency braking unless you buy the midnight Edition so pedestrian is not available on SV models do you get it

kellybrown

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I have a picture of my 17.5 sticker I don't
Know how to load it and yes it says FEB
I just want to inform people their are 2
versions and just because it says forward emergency braking you may not be getting
What you want

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1) Chill.
2) Forward Emergency Braking (FEB) is available on ALL trim levels, including the SV. So no, you don't have to buy the Midnight Edition to get that as it's STANDARD EQUIPMENT. I've checked with a local dealership that has SV's with FEB sitting on their lot, so I've done my homework.
3) The FEB employs radar sensors, and they DO need calibrating. Here's an excerpt from an official memo sent out by Nissan to the Collision Repair Industry:
Many Nissan vehicles are now equipped with front radar sensors as part of Nissan’s “Safety Shield Technology”. This radar is one of the main components that contribute to proper functioning of various vehicle features, such as Forward Emergency Braking (FEB), Predictive Forward Collision Warning (PFCW), and Intelligent Cruise Control (ICC).

It is critical that these radar devices are properly recalibrated after any repair situation to the front of the vehicle that would cause the radar sensor to be shifted, removed, reinstalled, or jolted in the collision. Nissan North America has taken the position that the recalibration of radar devices in the described repair situations is mandatory, without exception. Failure to follow this recommendation could result in radar malfunction, or vehicle systems, including safety features not working as originally intended, thus posing a significant risk to vehicle occupants. We ask that the general repair industry adhere to these strict guidelines for the ultimate benefit and safety of our customers.
4) At the risk of repeating myself, your FEB may not be working correctly. Please take the vehicle back to the dealership and have them check it.

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They checked it they had a Nissan tech specialist come to the dealer take my dash apart had the vehicle for 2 days
The car will not brake nor give two warnings like the video you posted I don't know why they had to take my car apart to see that their 17.5 sv at the dealer acted the same way
Just be aware of 2 systems I was surprised my vehicle wouldn't brake
If I did it over I would go with the Platinum
All very nice cars I like the sv other than that

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Can this crap be disabled if I never want it to activate or beep or bother me or interfere with my weaving in and out of traffic?

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Very easy go to settings and turn it off

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DTASFAB wrote:
Tue Sep 05, 2017 10:36 am
Can this crap be disabled if I never want it to activate or beep or bother me or interfere with my weaving in and out of traffic?
Yes it can be turned off in the settings, but not permanently. The system will reset to ON once you turn the engine off.

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Why bother with this BS? These systems will fail sometime later in the feature. Also please don't be dependent on these, as its a very bad habit of driving.

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datechboss101 wrote:
Sun Sep 10, 2017 7:52 am
Why bother with this BS? These systems will fail sometime later in the feature. Also please don't be dependent on these, as its a very bad habit of driving.
I agree wholeheartedly. I mean, why have a car that requires the driver to actually pay attention to the road when you can just buy a computerized feature that will stop the car for you while you daydream or text or watch a video on your phone? :rolleyes:

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DTASFAB wrote:
Sun Sep 10, 2017 10:57 am
datechboss101 wrote:
Sun Sep 10, 2017 7:52 am
Why bother with this BS? These systems will fail sometime later in the feature. Also please don't be dependent on these, as its a very bad habit of driving.
I agree wholeheartedly. I mean, why have a car that requires the driver to actually pay attention to the road when you can just buy a computerized feature that will stop the car for you while you daydream or text or watch a video on your phone? :rolleyes:
I am pretty sure Tesla Model S showed everyone that this is a total fail, as drivers were watching movies while the car was driving itself. :facepalm: Clearly, the direction that the society is going especially for vehicles is a complete red-flag.

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Can I just take a shot in the dark here and say the op crashed his rogue trying to test the emergency braking? Who gets this angry over this? Lol

kellybrown

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Nice try get real the sv doesn't brake so maybe you are a salesman that doesn't want to know
No big deal

kellybrown

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Nice try get real the sv doesn't brake so maybe you are a salesman that doesn't want to know
No big deal, watch the Feb video for sl and Platinum it brakes the it brakes harder
SV doesn't do that their are 2 systems
And they call them both forward emergency braking but they don't do the same thing
So the dealers should be upfront about that

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kellybrown wrote:
Sun Sep 10, 2017 5:57 pm
Nice try get real the sv doesn't brake so maybe you are a salesman that doesn't want to know
No big deal, watch the Feb video for sl and Platinum it brakes the it brakes harder
SV doesn't do that their are 2 systems
And they call them both forward emergency braking but they don't do the same thing
So the dealers should be upfront about that
Dealers try to sell you the car that they want, not the car you want. Since they never disclaimed to you about that, you should have considered that they want to sell you a SL or SV (non-midnight edition) variants. If you want to see a dealer being upfront (which is like 1-2%), you have to do your homework beforehand so that you won't be walking into frustration.

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Yeah that's probably why they don't advertise it on TV they wouldn't advertise this video on TV they don't even have one Toyota advertises there's on TV because they're not shady about that but I'm still happy I just want to let other people know that's why I'm posting it so other people don't have to learn the hard way it's no big deal it's kind of like the notification you get texting from my car I called the dealer 3 times and got the silent treatment went to your site here and got information how to get rid of that no notification but the dealer sure wasn't going to tell you that won't even reach

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kellybrown wrote:
Mon Sep 11, 2017 4:11 pm
Yeah that's probably why they don't advertise it on TV they wouldn't advertise this video on TV they don't even have one Toyota advertises there's on TV because they're not shady about that but I'm still happy I just want to let other people know that's why I'm posting it so other people don't have to learn the hard way it's no big deal it's kind of like the notification you get texting from my car I called the dealer 3 times and got the silent treatment went to your site here and got information how to get rid of that no notification but the dealer sure wasn't going to tell you that won't even reach
When a manufacturer advertises their products and showing the safety features, they use a fully loaded model. This is frequent in Nissan, Toyota, GM, Ford, etc. You can find lots of negative reviews and complaints about the dealerships and Nissan all throughout this forum.

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True

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Just out 8f curiosity, how do you calibrate the radar?

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Steptide wrote:
Sat Sep 16, 2017 5:42 am
Just out 8f curiosity, how do you calibrate the radar?
You can't. It has to be calibrated by the dealership.

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You can't and it doesn't have a camera on the window so it doesn't work Mr idiot

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kellybrown wrote:
Sun Sep 17, 2017 6:58 am
You can't and it doesn't have a camera on the window so it doesn't work Mr idiot
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As I posted in another thread here re: FEB.

We have the 2017.5 SL with all the upgrades (Premium / Platinum) and you are correct - THE FEB SYSTEM DOES NOT WORK AS ADVERTISED, OR PRESENTED IN THE MANUALS - which clearly show the vehicle warning you about 4 car lengths ahead of impact, gentle braking 3 car lengths ahead of impact and stopping you about 1/2 car length ahead of impact with the object in front of you.

There is no misunderstanding - it simply doesn't work as advertised and represented by Nissan.

This one is going to lead to some large class action suits!


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