So I have been watching this thread for awhile and I am confused but what you are saying.datechboss101 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 21, 2019 3:35 pmSo, on Monday (August 19th), I almost T-boned a BMW E39 who pulled out in front of me without any indications. Was literally inches away from totaling this new Rogue. What I realized is that the brakes didn't stop the vehicle quickly (my 2016 Rogue does stop quickly) and the safety tech never flashed BRAKE or never assisted me in braking. The mileage at the incident was 389 miles.
Flash forward to today... I called Nissan USA at lunch time and they took a ton of information from me and they said that they are going to escalate this to higher management. The representative literally asked me "What should Nissan do for you?" and I am like, "Dude, I need Nissan to check this safety tech and brakes since this is a safety issue, as I was literally about to get into a serious accident."
And to go to the dealer we bought it from, its literally not in any of our routes, since the dealer is in Tampa, my school is in Miami, dad's work is in downtown Orlando, and brother's school is near dad's office. Dealer close to home will tell me to go to the dealer that we bought the vehicle from (same dealer that doesn't want to bargain their service prices down or accept other dealer's service coupons).
So far, I am an alert driver, have a clean driving record, been driving for the past 3 years/ ~50k miles, no tickets or any at fault accidents or any points.
My question is: Should I have the brake system checked and all the safety tech updated and checked for any issues?
casperfun wrote: ↑Thu Sep 26, 2019 1:51 pmWell he did say the car pulled out in FRONT of him.
And the FEB system should of had relayed that it recognized an object in front of it.
I agree it's mainly emergency braking for frontal collisions,
But if something goes in front of the vehicle either from the side by any chance, or a UFO landing from above, or fall from a cliff or whatever,
I think the system should react whether by indash display or by the automatic braking themselves.
Some type of input given to the driver, that they are inches from a collision with a vehicle.
Dude, think about it. I am pleasantly driving to my destination and out of nowhere this car comes out in front of and my reaction time took a bit long. The breaks didn't quickly help the vehicle decelerate at all, and the dang sensor didn't step in to aid me to bring the vehicle to a slow speed. Also, if you had not noticed my CAR portion of my profile, I have (had) 3 Nissans too, but only own two (as also stated in my CAR profile).zukabaker wrote: ↑Fri Sep 27, 2019 4:19 amcasperfun wrote: ↑Thu Sep 26, 2019 1:51 pmWell he did say the car pulled out in FRONT of him.
And the FEB system should of had relayed that it recognized an object in front of it.
I agree it's mainly emergency braking for frontal collisions,
But if something goes in front of the vehicle either from the side by any chance, or a UFO landing from above, or fall from a cliff or whatever,
I think the system should react whether by indash display or by the automatic braking themselves.
Some type of input given to the driver, that they are inches from a collision with a vehicle.
I get that the car pulled out in FRONT of him but the system is to prevent a rear end collision meaning that it needs to be able to track the vehicle. It is not a 360 degree sweeping radar.
Again I have not had any issues with my car personally and I got it July 2019 and have over 7000 miles of NY driving. How can the system react to something that it did not see?
Also after supposedly going to Nissan there was nothing else posted. Did OP ever go back to Nissan? I would be curious to see what they had to say. I have been a big Nissan fan since 1989 (had a 1989 Nissan Pulsar NX and then a 1993 Nissan NX 2000 and a string of all Nissan since then I currently have 3 Nissan in the driveway now 2017 and 2019 Rogue SV and a 2017 Murano Platinum) I have driven other cars with the femb systems and they all act the same. The all have false positives and people freak out about that but like you said the system is not perfect and driver awareness is the key element to avoiding accidents.
I did check the myCarFax and NissanUSA owners portal for a recall so I can take this in, but its not listed for my 2019. Also, I had the dealer check for updates when I initially took the 2019 in with this issue.
Ima break this down to broken English for you to understand.zukabaker wrote: ↑Mon Oct 07, 2019 8:07 amI understand what you are saying and I tend to disagree with you as I have 3 Nissan's currently in the family and the 2019 is by far the best of the bunch. I also drive a 2017 Rogue and it does not brake anywhere near as fast or as steady as the 2019 Rogue. Again I am not picking a fight here just trying to understand the situation. My 2019 Rogue (got it July 2019 and have over 7100 miles on it) The FEB will come on when I am in traffic and the car feels that I am approaching to closely. In fact it saved me today. I agree that the system is kind of loud at times but that is the sensors and servos doing their job.
You keep saying that the system does not work because somebody made an abrupt left turn in front of you yet again that is not how the system is designed to work. It is a Forward Emergency Braking system (it can only track vehicles in front of it not when the appear out of nowhere.
As far as the braking distance what did Nissan have to say about that issue? I feel that the 2019 that I have breaks extremely quickly and efficiently much better than my 2017 Rogue. Again this is my opinion and each person's experience may be different.
I am curious what you expected Nissan to do with the car? Replace it, buy it back, I am just confused. Did you not test drive the car before purchasing it and notice the faults that you feel the car has?
datechboss101 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 07, 2019 11:41 amIma break this down to broken English for you to understand.zukabaker wrote: ↑Mon Oct 07, 2019 8:07 amI understand what you are saying and I tend to disagree with you as I have 3 Nissan's currently in the family and the 2019 is by far the best of the bunch. I also drive a 2017 Rogue and it does not brake anywhere near as fast or as steady as the 2019 Rogue. Again I am not picking a fight here just trying to understand the situation. My 2019 Rogue (got it July 2019 and have over 7100 miles on it) The FEB will come on when I am in traffic and the car feels that I am approaching to closely. In fact it saved me today. I agree that the system is kind of loud at times but that is the sensors and servos doing their job.
You keep saying that the system does not work because somebody made an abrupt left turn in front of you yet again that is not how the system is designed to work. It is a Forward Emergency Braking system (it can only track vehicles in front of it not when the appear out of nowhere.
As far as the braking distance what did Nissan have to say about that issue? I feel that the 2019 that I have breaks extremely quickly and efficiently much better than my 2017 Rogue. Again this is my opinion and each person's experience may be different.
I am curious what you expected Nissan to do with the car? Replace it, buy it back, I am just confused. Did you not test drive the car before purchasing it and notice the faults that you feel the car has?
1) That FEB doesn't work even when I INTENTIONALLY went <10 inches behind a freaking Semi when the semi was stopped. Granted, that was to test if the stupid system even worked, and sure enough it didn't. And this was way before the break in period was over, as our 2019 has roughly 2400 miles currently. So to confirm in BROKEN ENGLISH you tried to engage the FEB in a non emergency situation and are upset that it did not work?
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2) When the (INSERT EXPLICIT WORDs HERE) made that abrupt left turn, the Rogue took way longer to stop (note that my 2016 will give signs that it is stopping in some form of sound or vibration and stops at a shorter distance from highway speeds) on a dry pavement in 100 F degree temperatures. A little help in aide from the FEB would have been helpful. So you claim that the 2016 makes loud noises but are unhappy that the 2019 makes loud noises when engaging the FEB?? Again you are asking the system to do something that it is not designed to do, I do not get why you keep saying that somebody ran in front of you or made an abrupt turn and expect the system to react to something it is NOT DESIGNED TO DO!
3) I expected Nissan to check the braking system, and do some type of service (i.e.: Flush the brake fluids, change brake pads, update the FEB software, etc). So Nissan did nothing and you are upset that the vehicle is performing within the specs that it is designed to do and the company did not want to pacify you?
4) FEB on other brands actually detects other vehicles that come out of nowhere and they help aide to slow the vehicle down.What brand is able to detect a car that is coming in an opposite direction from the one your vehicle is heading in. I guess this makes sense in your head because a Ferrari can go over 200 miles so the Rogue should do the same?
5) When I compared the 2019 Rogue SV to my 2016 Rogue SL and our former 2018 Kicks SR, both the 2016 and 2018 stopped at a shorter distance from highway speeds to a rest, whereas the 2019 took longer, and the 2019 isn't heavy at all, so this was a huge concern for me, since a light SUV took a longer distance to stop on dry pavement with no aide coming from the FEB. So you did not like the way the car performed and still purchased the car?
6) That guy was literally in front of me when I was inches (maybe centimeters) away from T-boning them (FEB still didn't react to that). IN BROKEN ENGLISH FEB is not designed to detect a vehicle crossing in front of you.