CHATROOM: What Dont You Like About Your Rogue?

[casperfun]

because you can't fish the strap under the headrest to the latch connector in the trunk, you have to put the strap over top of the headrest and when you tighten it down the headrest smoosh/compress flat and it looks so stupid. When the car seats are removed my headrests don't bounce back, they're permanently deformed which sucks when I try to sell it privately one day.

I always place the strap around the permanent headrest, never thought of going over and smooshing it. I also have placed a child seat in the middle but the size of the infant seat, if there were 2 passengers on either side it would be uncomfortable. There is no middle headrest to deform and they say it's actually the safest place is in the middle. Didn't stay there long. I prefer behind me though.

[Jenerator]

Likes:
- Rear view camera - every vehicle should have one of these!
- Smooth drive, smooth braking
- Great handling through curves/cornering
- I see other Rogue drivers and want to ask them how they like it...someone who is looking at buying a new car asked ME that today!

Dislikes:
- Sun visors don't slide out along the arm like in the Dodge Caliber - I was reminded of this this morning as I was blinded by the sun while trying to look out my window
- As it starts up the engine revs pretty high on its own...I am not holding the key in the forward position...I wonder if this is only my Rogue doing this? I've got just under 900 kms on it now.
- Others have mentioned, lack of small cubbies in the front. I guess the cup holders will do, but it becomes an issue when I want to put drinks there!

[kerrton]

What's the issue with the cup holders, they're only good until you need to put drinks in there, I don't think I've ever heard anyone complain about the cup holders before!

Exactly how high does your Rogue rev when you start it? And how long does it take until the rpms drop down to a stable level? This will be dependant on temperature, but if your Rogue revs to around 3000 rpms for a brief moment then drops down to around 1500 or less and ultimately settles at around 700 after reaching operating temp then you're normal.

[Jenerator]

Kerr - Nah I was saying that the cup holders will do as cubbies to put s***.....until I have to put actual CUPS in there...then where do I put my s***?

I didn't think to watch the RPM gauge when starting, but I'll try to remember next time and report back.

[Jenerator]

Ok, I've noticed that upon startup the RPMs go to 2000 and then, depending on what the outside temp is, they go immediately down to 1500 and stay there for a few seconds, or down to around 1000. I guess this is normal.

[gpatters71]

1. The Blind Spots

The number one thing that troubles me about my 2012 Rogue SV is the blind spots.

I've added the small round mirrors to the side mirrors. Recently I added a Broadway mirror from Ebay to the interior mirror. It's a bit better for seeing on the right side of the car. ]

2. No rear sensors

I wish the 2012 Rogue had rear sensors instead of the backup camera. I suppose I do not feel as safe in it as my 8 year old PT Cruiser. I always felt I knew what was going on around me and behind me. I'm extra careful these days with this car, and I've had it now since July.

[darylzero]

1. The Blind Spots

The number one thing that troubles me about my 2012 Rogue SV is the blind spots.

I've added the small round mirrors to the side mirrors. Recently I added a Broadway mirror from Ebay to the interior mirror. It's a bit better for seeing on the right side of the car.

I felt the same way at first, but I read what Eikon does with the mirrors and have had them that way for 3 years.

Here is the original post and his quote: post3941152.html?hilit=side%20mirrors%2 ... n#p3941152

Sorry to hear that the blind spots are bothersome for you. They do affect people differently depending on seating position, height, etc...

At least you acknowledge that you have to be careful, and I'm sure you will be very careful. What would be more scary is someone who didn't pay attention to the lack of visibility and got into accidents because of it.

One thing I've learned to do is angle my side view mirrors away from the car. Most people like to see the side of their own car in the side view mirrors. But that perspective doesn't really give you any help with what's behind and to the side of you (ie. your blindspot). I move the mirrors out so that I see straight down the lane to the side of me. More away from my vehicle. That really seems to help me avoid blind spot issues.

[ImStricken06]

Ok, I've noticed that upon startup the RPMs go to 2000 and then, depending on what the outside temp is, they go immediately down to 1500 and stay there for a few seconds, or down to around 1000. I guess this is normal.

thats normal.
your ecu via sensors is judging the outside air temp to see (if) how much the engine needs to be warmed and how quickly.

[gpatters71]

Thanks for the previous quote about blind spots. I just read it.

I probably had my new car a day or so when I knew I needed to do something about the blind spots & mirrors. The first thing I did was buy the small round mirrors and put them on the side mirrors.

Next I went on youtube and searched for instructions about correctly setting your side mirrors. This is the video I found that was very useful. I hope it might help someone else too.

"Are your car mirrors adjusted correctly? "
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QpRovzCe ... re=related

Since then, I've given this link to friends who were having a problem with blind spots.

[Asian]

I forgot how annoying the constant temperature flashing is when it gets colder. It doesn't need to flash all the time. Ugh...

[Rogue One]

I forgot how annoying the constant temperature flashing is when it gets colder. It doesn't need to flash all the time. Ugh...

Press the right reset button until you get into setup and you can change the default alert for temp to off.

[Rogue Noob]

This is my gf's car but I drive it when we go out.

Cons:
- Car running low on fuel so the car stops telling you how many miles are left? WTF? At what other time would you care how many miles are left other than when you are running low? Weird.
-rearview mirror is in the way. I literally look down at it. Yes I am tall (6'4") but with such a low roof that thing needs to be mounted higher or on the ceiling.
- too small. This is the daily ride of someone 5'1" so it is appropriate for that... but not comfortable for anyone above the averages IMO.
- The obvious would be the blind spots but that isn't really a huge issue but can causing some neck cramping.
- paddles are worthless, just get rid of those
- need to put AUX plug in center console
- cabin filter placement. pain in the a** for changing.
- power seats without a way to set memory.
- Noisy sunroof (Sound goes away if you push up the deflector, has anyone changed/modified that to stay up higher?)
Pros
- decent pickup for a lil 4 banger
- Solid MPG
-GREAT stock sound system and with 3 sets of presets where you can put anything anywhere, love that.
- love the power plug in the center console
- trunk organizer is awesome for groceries

Overall a nice little car to drive occasionally, just not a good option for me.

[Asian]

Thanks Rogue One!

[Qashqai]

1. The bluetooth telephone answer and decline button need colour coding. Decline should be red and answer should be green. In a busy traffic, while concentrated on the road, I accidently decline many calls.
2. When the outside is sunny and I turn the AC on, i can't see the little orange indicator light. I need to put my hand over the know to make a shadow and try to see the light. My solution: turn off the headlights (of course when it is daytime ). This way the lights of the indicators become brighter.

[Rogue Noob]

Found another one: The doors do not stay open unless pushed 100% open. Even then, on a slight upward slope it still won't stay. My gf hates this because it always closes itself on her legs. A real PITA.

1. The bluetooth telephone answer and decline button need colour coding. Decline should be red and answer should be green. In a busy traffic, while concentrated on the road, I accidently decline many calls.
2. When the outside is sunny and I turn the AC on, i can't see the little orange indicator light. I need to put my hand over the know to make a shadow and try to see the light. My solution: turn off the headlights (of course when it is daytime ). This way the lights of the indicators become brighter.

The problem is your turning the lights on during the day time, not the button. Do you have the dimming knob turned to full brightness? Do a daytime running lights MOD if that is what you want to do. Every car will have this issue if you are turning the night time lights on during the day.

[johny_maple]

I've worked around some of my dislikes so I'm not complaining about them, but there are two things I can't do anything about. The first is the centre storage area that is too far back and very uncomfortable to reach, so I have conflicts like many others re: cup holders. Secondly, the quality of the paint sucks. Fingernail scratches at the door handles. Anything that touches the panels leaves a mark. After 15 years and 300,000km+, I had none of these on my '95 Explorer. Everything else I like.

[darylzero]

I've worked around some of my dislikes so I'm not complaining about them, but there are two things I can't do anything about. The first is the centre storage area that is too far back and very uncomfortable to reach, so I have conflicts like many others re: cup holders. Secondly, the quality of the paint sucks. Fingernail scratches at the door handles. Anything that touches the panels leaves a mark. After 15 years and 300,000km+, I had none of these on my '95 Explorer. Everything else I like.

I agree the paint quality does suck

[casperfun]

Forgot to say I never liked the silver bubble looking muffler look, so I painted mine black. Been happy ever since.

[Qashqai]

On of the most annoying thing is the wiper blade sizes. There are lots of good deals for the wiper blades, but only one or two companies are selling a blade size of 14". What a stupid idea is to design the wiper system with 26" and 14" sizes? Cant it be something more common? And that 14" passenger size blades left a huge uncleared area on the windshield which blocks the view of a tall passenger.

[ImStricken06]

On of the most annoying thing is the wiper blade sizes. There are lots of good deals for the wiper blades, but only one or two companies are selling a blade size of 14". What a stupid idea is to design the wiper system with 26" and 14" sizes? Cant it be something more common? And that 14" passenger size blades left a huge uncleared area on the windshield which blocks the view of a tall passenger

so do what i did: JUST TAKE ONE STEP DOWN ON THE DRIVER SIDE, AND ONE STEP UP ON THE PASSENGER SIDE. that makes the passenger wiper easier to find. works fine.

NISSAN STATES: 26" & 14" ---- I DID: 24 & 16 (or was it 25" & 15? forgot already? regardless you know what i mean. take 1step down from the left, and add it to the right)

[casperfun]

Cant it be something more common? And that 14" passenger size blades left a huge uncleared area on the windshield which blocks the view of a tall passenger.

Because of information on these forums I went with 15 inch on the passengers side.

Hence 26 inch on drivers and 15 inch on passengers has worked great for me. Didn't notice anything different at all in wiping ability. Smooth as usual.

Moreover, I rain-x the windshield. Most of the time I never need the wipers since the beading of water keeps it very clear. I do use the wipers still off and on.

[newnissanlady]

RATTLING in the dashboard! From at least 3 different sources. Of course it's worse when the car is cold. Drive a bumpy road at 40mph or faster and they can really go to town. Love everything else about my new Rogue, but these rattles make me feel like I'm driving a cheap vehicle. Drives me nuts...and I'm sure it would be next to impossible to find the exact sources and do anything to truly fix it. Wish I would've researched this more before buying. I googled Rogue and rattling and got plenty of hits. Really bummed out about it

[MartinJansen]

1) BLIND SPOTS BLIND SPOTS.... Actually BLIND DISTRICTS (and please don't the "adjust the mirrors angle - even with the mirrors adjusted and BSMs installed on both sides there is a distint lack of visibility because of the design of the beams in the rear of the car)

2) Navigation location is way too LOW and screen way to SMALL.

3) Back window is so small that it further adds to the lack of visibility.

4) Under-powered for sure.

5) Should have better, more significant, options for top-o-line versions

6) Gas mileage good - but competition is leaving it behind fast.

6) Blind spots.

I really like the car actually as it looks good and rides nice. But will get something different if they do not fix these basic -obvious - issues.

[kerrton]

I've gotta respond to a couple of these:

1) Blind spots - I've driven a lot of crossovers in this class, and yes the Rogue isn't great but it's not horrible either, most vehicles in this class have simliar issues and if the blind spots are so terrible why didn't you immediately notice them on the test drive and go buy something else? If you didn't notice it on test drive, it couldn't be that horrible.

4) Underpowered - are you kidding? One of the reasons I bought the Rogue is because it was the best 4-cylinder offering in this class in 2008 bar-none. The 4-cylinder RAV4 was pathetic (current model is improved), the CRV was and still has less power and feels much more underpowered and the CRV is always a top seller - that powertrain is downright sluggish. By comparison the Rogue has a ton of power and more importantly the torque is excellent, I find I never have to run the rpms any higher than 2000 and the car accelerates very nicely and with excellent efficiency, if I step it down for some hard acceleration it sucks me back in the seat, tons of passing power when needed, I am frankly shocked to hear you critisize the power of this 4-cylinder. Of course a larger 3.5L V6 would turn this thing into a rocket, but if you wanted a race car then again I have to ask - why did you buy this car, you should've bought something with a V6 so you could win all the races in town??

6) Gas mileage - I get very close to the posted numbers with my 2008 FWD, but like I said in another post poor gas mileage is almost always related to driving style - basically the car will give you what you ask for. If you want good mileage, a light foot and conservative driving will get you great mileage and my 2008 still rivals most of the new crossovers. Here are the facts, the Rogue gets right around the same rated mileage as the class-leading RAV4 4-cylinder and the CRV, and the Rogue has been doing it for almost 5 model years. There are some brand new models that are better such as the Mazda CX-5, but it is a smaller vehicle, and less powerful but still impressive. The brand new Kia Sportage and Hyundai Tucson are highly rated competitors, each is smaller than the Rogue, each is slightly more efficient on the highway but gets worse mileage than the Rogue in the city. The 5-year-old Rogue is hanging right there with the brand new models in terms of efficiency, and when the redesign comes out next year I think it will destroy most competitors in terms of efficiency.

Don't get me wrong, I don't love my Rogue, its got lots of issues, I don't regret buying it but I do have several gripes about it. I just had to speak up because the few things that the Rogue does very well are actually the things you were complaining about which I found very odd. Just my opinion. The things I find to be sub-par are:

- engine noise when cold
- CVT at times is annoying, in particular hot highway "whine" noise
- lack of sound deadening
- no second row console
- lack of lower door sills and poor seals - quickly collects debris and wears away paint
- non adjustable 2nd row head rests - really bad if you have child car seats
- suspension - not just too firm but pretty uncontrolled and noisy when you hit the big bumps
- catalytic converter(s) - seems to be specific to my car - intense rotten egg stink entering cabin after highway trips, dealer cannot diagnose or repair

[Rogue One]

>SNIP<
- catalytic converter(s) - seems to be specific to my car - intense rotten egg stink entering cabin after highway trips, dealer cannot diagnose or repair

Here's some thoughts (not my own)...

"It's (the smell) hydrogen sulfide or H2S. It does not exist in the fuel or oil, which is why you can't smell it at the gas station. It does, however, come from the gasoline. Almost all gasoline contains organic sulfur compounds with sulfur levels ranging from 30 to 100 parts per million, approximately."

"As the fuel burns, the organic sulfur compounds break down into simpler compounds. If the engine is running lean (more air than is needed to burn the fuel), the sulfur is likely to be SO2, or sulfur dioxide. The catalytic converter can change this into SO3 (sulfur trioxide), which then reacts with the catalyst to form sulfates on the catalyst. Over several minutes there is a build up of sulfates. If the engine suddenly starts to run rich (not enough air to burn all the fuel), such as when you stop at a red light, climb a steep hill, or brake hard to slow down, the chemistry changes. Now the sulfates are unstable and they react to form hydrogen sulfide, which is expelled from the exhaust pipe all at once. The high concentration is the reason for the bad smell! This effect is a common problem with new vehicles because the catalyst is working at a very high efficiency. However, as the catalyst gets older, the activity drops. Fortunately for us, one of the first reactions to be affected is the formation of hydrogen sulfide. So as the catalyst gets older, the smell will go away. It should also be noted that many catalysts never smell bad. One reason might be because the vehicle doesn't run lean for much of the time, or perhaps the catalyst has an extra component that reduces the production of hydrogen sulfide."

"More than likely, you have too rich a mixture in your exhaust. When your catalytic converter is taxed by too much unburned gas flowing through your engine, the fumes coming out your exhaust pipe smell like rotten eggs. The smell itself is sulfur based but shouldn't be too much of a problem in itself. Check the inside of the tailpipe with your finger. If it's black and sooty, then you could think about having the fuel injection checked out. You may need to replace your catalytic convertor. You can go to a independent shop and have them perform a "cat efficiency test" and see what they tell you."

[ImStricken06]

- catalytic converter(s) - seems to be specific to my car - intense rotten egg stink entering cabin after highway trips, dealer cannot diagnose or repair

nothing to repair. if it smells like eggs, its the honeycomb inside is damaged. that cat needs to be replaced. you will get a CEL soon. but thats all due to the engine adding excessive amounts of fuel (bad air). A few possible causes are a leaking injector, malfunctioning fuel pressure regulator, slipped timing belt, coolant sensor out of range or lazy oxygen (O2) sensor. The key indicator is that (LTFT) Long Term Fuel Trims will be out of range. This over fueling, over time, will eventually destroy the catalytic converter. the fault should be found before a new catalytic converter is installed.

be ready for:
serious power loss due to catalytic converter clogged up
worse egg smell
melted catalytic converter that leaks exhaust and causes noise
or worse engine issues.

HOW MANY MILES NOW KERR?

[kerrton]

Yeah thanks guys, I appreciate you taking the time to write up those ideas. I've been really waiting for the cat to get to the point that it throws a code and I can get it replaced under warranty. I also recognized that this could be caused by combustion issues so I purchased the wireless code bluetooth code reader last month - however I've had a bugger of a time with the windows programs and the bluetooth port settings. I think I'll be getting an Android phone soon, at which time I download Torque and check parameters. And if nothing else I'm close to bringing it to Nissan for a "diagnostic", they can check all the parameters and CONSULT should tell them quickly if any are out of range like the Long Term Fuel Trims that you mentioned, air/fuel mixuture, fuel pressures, sensors etc..

Thanks again guys, I'm sure I'll get it fixed soon, I'll let you know how it turns out.

[vidin]

if u unplug the sensor will it trip a cel?

[TaiLuu]

if u unplug the sensor will it trip a cel?

Yes.

[ronmora]

My first post and new to owning a Rogue…
I bought it for my wife and noticed no Bluetooth audio streaming. Can't believe this was left out in the technology. Good thing I have an extra Tunelink auto which took care of this problem. Also, as I read a few post on this thread, I agree the lack of additional small interior storages or center console tray should have been added. Other than these minor gripes, the wife loves the car.