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martins_240sx
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Thank you. I just hope it lives up to all your expectations. The engine will not make me satisfied until it is where I want it. But perfect is just so hard to get to:)


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bro-d240sx
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trust me im not one to talk trash and my earlier statement was not ment for trash talk i am just proud to be a sohc owner myself and i have future plans for mine but this thread iv gotta say is the best example that the die hard sohc owner can run with all the other engines just as well and puts the disbelief that sohc cant make power.

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martins_240sx
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No problem man. I didn't think you were. I was just posting that it had been running before. It proved itself as a turbo engine. Now we will see as a twin charged setup...eventually hahaha. I assumed that not everyone that post on this build read it through entirely was all. In the beginning I thought this would be easier since it was the actual engine it came with but then again I've given 12 pages of proof I was wrong. Hopefully this does open a door for more tuners. This type setup was popular in cars back in the day but from what the old timers tell me, it was nearly abandoned due to the complexity of it ( laziness) and of course price prolly played a factor. But hell just the other day I saw a twincharged Honda in a magazine. They didn't go into detail about the build but it was definitely in series like mine. And the specs that were posted about what does what boost wise(. Super against turbo) I believe are miss posted because they don't seem from my research to be accurate ( boost multiplication) which would differ at Lilly size and rpm of motor and of course supercharger size and type. But then again his is actually complete and I could very well be wrong. We shall see

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Lobo240sx
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martins_240sx wrote:No problem man. I didn't think you were. I was just posting that it had been running before. It proved itself as a turbo engine. Now we will see as a twin charged setup...eventually hahaha. I assumed that not everyone that post on this build read it through entirely was all. In the beginning I thought this would be easier since it was the actual engine it came with but then again I've given 12 pages of proof I was wrong. Hopefully this does open a door for more tuners. This type setup was popular in cars back in the day but from what the old timers tell me, it was nearly abandoned due to the complexity of it ( laziness) and of course price prolly played a factor. But hell just the other day I saw a twincharged Honda in a magazine. They didn't go into detail about the build but it was definitely in series like mine. And the specs that were posted about what does what boost wise(. Super against turbo) I believe are miss posted because they don't seem from my research to be accurate ( boost multiplication) which would differ at Lilly size and rpm of motor and of course supercharger size and type. But then again his is actually complete and I could very well be wrong. We shall see

Wish you would have tracked it with what you had... :frown: I like to hear from the actual owner that you put "d!ck in the dirt with a single cam KA24ET" . Since there has been a KA VS. SR war since mankind lol. People for a long time talked about the engine being better, but you sir have actually done it. That is where credit and all respect comes in. Anybody can talk about their opinions instead of observation. Don't give up on it now though you have learned a lot about the engine's limits and capabilities.

If you don't mind what kind of Cam are you using for this beast?? One cam for intake + exhaust is what people really look at when they decide on which engine to go with. The other thing is temperature. That engine gets hot as s*** . Are you going to use some kind of cooling injection?? Any significant changes you have done with the head besides bolt on's.

-Bryce

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bro-d240sx
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well it has, my 90 is all in stock form right now. wich here i can see is almost impossible to find one all stock. but the body is in pretty piss poor shape and im getting that all done so it won't continue to degrade into rust. lol i live in south florida near the beach... need i say more? iv actually tried to read at least 3/4's of this thread but seeing the pictures of the build i have been able to locate on my own most of the build parts like your bullet proof bottom end and turbo kit etc... not 100% sure but at least 95% sure. but i wont just say the component locations out on the thread cause i know people like to be unique and me posting that would take the uniquness away from your ride. and i have to say living in soflo... most kids these days are all about dohc no matter what motor it being nissan, toyota , honda, down here and i wanna build a single cam to be unique in my own little world im all about save the single cams! but when i get it rollin i will post up some pics

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martins_240sx
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The cam is the stage 2 cam from O&j performance. It definitely brings the torque curve down into the lower Rpms. It does make it a tad harder to start. Also the head has been ported and polished. That's it. It made great numbers before the head work but you could tell it needed some work on the intake and exhaust ports. The size differences were crazy. Not even close to being similar. Example being from the 4th cyl to the 1st cyl there was nearly a 1/8 inch difference in diameter. As for the engine getting hot... Certain cylinders were much hotter than others. Especially 4th. I feel with the porting it will change that. The 4th exhaust port was the smallest. But for heat management I'm running methanol injection. I'm going to be running it pre supercharger. I'm running the devils own kit.
I wish I would have tracked it too. But like I said marine corps is time difficult. I got it off the dyno about 1am and had to catch a flight to north Carolina at 5 am and was gone for 4 months. The ka vs sr fight leaves me angry Everytime I read it. My sohc-t would have and still would( I can drop it in right now with just turbo) walk all over the sr power wise. I'm sure if got my suspension adjusted and everything then I could take it on any of the "events" they had. This is my opinion. But that would have ended the debate there as mine would be the "runt" sohc ka. When this is done I will be trying to get it in mags and such just so I can get my name out there. I plan on opening my own shop sometime soon and I think this would be a great example of what I can do.

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Sweet man. I don't mind if you blab out the locations of the parts. If someone wants to make a similar build thats fine. Hell i might even learn somethin from how they do it.
Jgstools- turbo kit partial
Amsperformance- sohc rebuild
Enjuku- too much to list
Frsport- too much to list
Oandj performance- cam and litters
Si valves- valves
Xcessive- oil pan and old intake plenum
EBay- random small pieces
Lots more places too.

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martins_240sx
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Oh and I forgot to mention you can drastically change the heat issues with the tuning. A few degrees change in timing at different rpm areas (hot spots) can cool them off. Usually with an exchange of performance though.

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Just went through this whole thread, absolutely amazing. Keep up the work!

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martins_240sx
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well guys i got an update..you will not like it. as some of you im sure have been watching the news and noticed there is some stuff going down around the world that intern means i have been summoned by my beloved United States Marine Corps. I cant go into detail but if im not on the forum for a while you can guess where im at. Im going on leave for christmas to see my kids in the first time in over a year so hopefully i dont get the grab your rifle call during this time. but i havent gave up on the build...just packed it for storage.

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Just checking in on your engine build,looks like you have been making good progress with it.Wherever you are heading stay safe and good luck!I appreciate your service to the country and i am sure everybody else on this site does too! :mike :mike

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95zen
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now flowing

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martins_240sx
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what????

"now flowing"

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motoman399
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i think he meant following... maybe

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this is one truly one of the best builds on nico! sad to see you might not be on for a while, but thank you for your service to our country!

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thank you...On a side note...since ive packed everything and just waiting for the grab your gun call or deployment date, which ever comes first. I come to find out that idle hands arent neccesarily the devils work but a great way to spend future money and plans...I have desided that im redoing the following;
1. methenol tank setup...it looks ghetto to me with the tanks exit hose(it is jbwelded)
2. I will be tubbing the fronts...
3. I will be modding my flca for more angle...
4. I will be painting the car again...(light almond) anyone familiar with marine corps secretarys (wall lockers not people) that color.
5. Possibly making sheet metal dash...like jordan conners (sleepys14)
6. when i get back im getting a place that has a garage so the process of completion will be much faster since im not working in my dinning/living room

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plus one to all of the above. sweet man.

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martins_240sx
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I think ive gone alittle too over the top engine wise...if this thing does blow (unrepairable)...which i doubt...im going v8.

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Chaluska
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Go kick some commy butt!

glad to see something other than the usual.. CA's and KA-E's are always my favorate builds to see!

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martins_240sx
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Alright guys...as some of you all know I am currently deployed so I havent made very much progress, none at all, in the past 4 months. Well thats only gonna get worse now. I just found out a few days ago that I have orders to Okinawa Japan. I will not be able to bring my car over there. So with that being said I will be making no progress at all on this build for the next 2-3 years im over in Japan. I contemplated selling the car all together but I have come to realize that i cannot since it is really a one of a kind.
On a plus side! Ill be in Japan so stand by for my new build. It will prolly be some type of crapped out skyline that some Marine owned and is pcsing back to the states and had to sell. I will only be doing an engine build since my intent is to build the engine and then when its my time to go back to the states i will send only the engine back.


I have not given up on this build

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Woot! Good to hear this project won't go away.

Good idea on the motor build.

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martins_240sx
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yeah i have way to much invested to just up and get rid of this thing

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You'll still have followers...i still check on the thread every few months or so to check for any progress. Who can forget "true pig build"

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Where did you get your cage from???

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SkyS13Walker
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:gapteeth: i'm in love wit the SUpercharger think ima have take one from ya book

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Damn Im jealous. I would love to get shipped off to japan and learn another way of life. And get really rare stuff to bring back to the states. Nice build. If I seen this a couple thousand dollars a while ago I would have suggested another power plant. 2 simple reasons. the motor will not have to work as hard thus making it more reliable for track and street. Second, IT"S cheaper. But I give you mad props on not giving up.

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martins_240sx
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well im excited to go to Japan, pick up some rare stuff and ship it back...as for the other power plant...yes I know, and no I wouldnt have changed my mind. anyone who knows me from the start knows that the entire almost 8 years ive been repping for the sohc...my coupe that i had was getting the ls1 but i sold it to buy a truck.

the cage is from mazworx

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martins_240sx
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so slight change of plan...turns out no Japan...they have me going Drill Instructor now...we will see how this affects the build

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why would you want to go DI? worst choice of all the b billets.. just saying..

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martins_240sx
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dude trust me its not my choice...with the new herse list if you get denied for recruiting they automatically send you in for di screening and then mct and msg...i was denied for recruiting and msg due to excessive tattoos...ive been fighting this for a while now but with the new service limitations being pushed to ten years to pick up staff or 2 pass overs this may be in my best interest in making this a career. its only 3 years.....i still dont want it though, i may just get out


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