thinking about ps3....

[Axel Grungy]

ive been thinking about getting a ps3. already have a 360 and a wii, might as well have the playstation as well. Im just getting nervous about the 360 and it crashing. seems it happens to everyone and im sure i will be soon. Most of the hype im hearing right now is that the ps3 is harder to develop for and in the long run will outdo the 360. the ps3 is a more powerful machine no doubt, and better reliability. Most of the games i play are on both systems anyways (vegas, oblivion, COD4). The only thing i like better on the 360 is the controllers, they just feel more ergonomical.

so what are your thoughts?? id like to hear from some ppl with ps3's.

[Loki]

Meh. Don't like em. Maybe you can get one on Black Friday when you get get them for fifty bucks a pop.

[bmike818]

if you have extra money why not.

no go for PSP or PS3 for me...I like my Xbox Live

[Axel Grungy]

if you have extra money why not.

no go for PSP or PS3 for me...I like my Xbox Live

just getting sick of all the freakin 10 year olds talking shat on XBL. i swear halo is ruining the upcoming generation.

[MinisterofDOOM]

I like the feel of the 360 controller, but I always have and probably always will prefer the PSx layout (with the analog sticks both at the "bottom" of the face).

I don't know anyone with a PS3 personally. I know a couple people via forums and such that have them, and they don't have many complaints aside from some of the recent massive letdown games (Heavenly Sword, Lair).

Ideally, I'd like to own all 3 systems as well (I have a Wii and 360 as well) but at this point the PS3 really holds no appeal for me.

I don't see any reason not to get one if you want one and have the funds. There are no major reliability problems as with the 360 that might make things difficult.

just getting sick of all the freakin 10 year olds talking shat on XBL. i swear halo is ruining the upcoming generation.

It's more along the lines of Halo HAS ruined the CURRENT generation. All these new poseur pseudo/casual/social gamers suck. I have no patience with them, and they are ruining the industry by lowering standards and making it okay for game companies to crap out multiplayer games with no content and tacked on singleplayer that's thinner than a bible page.

[ceniack]

I have a PS3 and a wii (had a 360 but sold it).

i have to say i enjoy my PS3 a lot, especially now that there are some decent games comming out.

must haves that are console exclusive

resistance: fall of manninja gaiden sigmauncharted: drakes fortune (if it is anything like the demo, and if the reviews are accurate)warhawk

those are the released games so far that i would consider must haves that are only on the PS3

killzone and metal gear solid 4 will probably be AAA titles as well

i also love the DLNA streaming (basicly access your movies, pictures, music from your computer onto the PS3)

some other pros to the PS3 are;free online (hopefully once home is released it will begin to rival live)blu-ray disk playback (you may or may not care about this)user upgradeable hard drive (use any laptop SATA hard drive)quietermore reliable (although i have heard of some isolated issues with the new 40gig, but it is too early to tell how widespread they are)near universal backwards compatibility with PS1 and PS2 (unless it is a 40 gig, then it is only PS1 games)rechargeable batterys in the controller (which las a LONG time)wi-fi includedcan use any bluetooth headseat and other blue tooth accessories

PS3 cons:price (less of an issue with the 40gig)spotty online experience (not terrible by any means though, just not quite up to live standards)piano black finish shows dust like an M-ferno high def cables includedno headset included

[C-Kwik]

If you can afford it, why not? But I would do it if there were games I actually wanted to play on it. Currently, 360 games are generally looking and playing better. While the Cell is a beast of a processor, it appears the lack of ram has been difficult to work with. I'd expect these issues could be worked around more once the PS3 can establish a large enough market share to justify the extra costs involved.

Don't get nervous about th 360 breaking. The media has people reeling about it. The failure rate is higher than normal, but I doubt it's as bad as the media has let on. If it fails, it fails. But with MS's 3 year warranty on the RROD issue, there's not a lot to be concerned with in the long run.

[ceniack]

If you can afford it, why not? But I would do it if there were games I actually wanted to play on it. Currently, 360 games are generally looking and playing better. While the Cell is a beast of a processor, it appears the lack of ram has been difficult to work with. I'd expect these issues could be worked around more once the PS3 can establish a large enough market share to justify the extra costs involved.

Don't get nervous about th 360 breaking. The media has people reeling about it. The failure rate is higher than normal, but I doubt it's as bad as the media has let on. If it fails, it fails. But with MS's 3 year warranty on the RROD issue, there's not a lot to be concerned with in the long run.

it isn't so much that the PS3 lacks the amount of ram that the 360 has, it is just split up differently, but all 512 megs of the ram is able to be accessed by any part of the cell or the RSX chip

[OldmanPurdy]

If most of the games you play are on the 360 then I don't think the ps3 is going to offer you much you don't already have, the multiplatform games don't look any better or play any better on the ps3 by any noticable margin, its lineup of released AAA titles is slim compared to the 360, and its superior power hasn't really made its games look any better than the 360's best. That said if you have the money and like the systems future outlook then go for it.

[R240sx]

yea on the memory issue, 360's OS only uses 32 mb of reserved memory while ps3 uses about 80mb, causing the ps3 to sometimes have a spottier framerate on multi platform games, but games built and designed for the ps3 are absolutely gorgeos, like rachat and clank, and uncharted.

it really depends on your taste though, i find that the 360 is very good for fps shooters as the controller seems optimized for that, but for say fighting games and platformers i prefer on ps3 because the controller is very simple and symetric.

either way i personally have a ps3 and can enjoy alot of the games that they are just now coming out with, since pretty much july its been nothing but a game drought for the ps3 but now its only just picking up!

[C-Kwik]

it isn't so much that the PS3 lacks the amount of ram that the 360 has, it is just split up differently, but all 512 megs of the ram is able to be accessed by any part of the cell or the RSX chip

From what I've read, the Cell's read access to the GDDR3 memory is slow. 16MB/sec seems to be a number I hear a lot in this regard. Not that the CPU needs to read from the GPU's ram often, it limits the flexibility of how it can use the total ram available. Realistically, the Cell is limited to 256MB of RAM.

By contrast, the 360's ram can be split up between GPU and CPU however it can be best used. It's a dynamic split as well, so it changes as needs change throughout a game. The PS3's Ram doesn't appear to be nearly as flexible.

The limited amount of RAM requires a dev to really optimize the code to work around the issue, costing more dev money. And multi-platform games can really suffer if trying to port the game as a game built for a platform with a bigger CPU memory footprint will struggle on the PS3. The solution is to run a dedicated dev team for the PS3 rather than porting, but then dev costs will be much higher. The current and near future installed base for the PS3 certainly doesn't provide warm and fuzzy feelings for devs putting such efforts into their games...

[redtop91]

If PS3 was worth it's price in it's game library I'd have one, but it's not. What good games are they? I really can't name one that isn't Multiplatform that I already have on the 360. Until the development of games catches some steam I'll continue to pass on the PS3. Additionally if some people I knew had the PS3, and I got more hands on experience with it, I might change my mind, but no, everyone has 360's and Wii's. I've never so much as touched a PS3.

[xekushnr]

If PS3 was worth it's price in it's game library I'd have one, but it's not. What good games are they? I really can't name one that isn't Multiplatform that I already have on the 360. Until the development of games catches some steam I'll continue to pass on the PS3. Additionally if some people I knew had the PS3, and I got more hands on experience with it, I might change my mind, but no, everyone has 360's and Wii's. I've never so much as touched a PS3.

Thank you for writing my post for me. The only good game they have exclusively so far is Resistance, and maybe Heavenly Sword (but I have not seen or played it yet). Resistance was good for the hour I played it, but not worth a $600 system (or $500 or $400, whatever the hell it is now). I'm not hating on Sony. I love Sony. I have a PSX and a PS2, which is my largest library of games. I had HUGE hopes for the PS3. It just falls short on games, and thats the key selling point of a GAME system. I sort of bought my XB360 on a whim, and I haven't even thought of looking back since day one. And I used to HATE the Xbox when it came out.

[ceniack]

some good exclusives that are currently out (that i have played/own):

uncharted: drakes fortuneresistance: fall of manninja gaiden sigmawarhawk

upcomming exclusives that are generating a lot of buzzHaze (possibly timed exclusive)metal gear solid 4killzone 2UT3 (timed PC and PS3 exclusive, still comming out on xbox later)Final fantasy XIIIlittle big planetGT5

the only xbox exclusives that really intereset me are gears of war, bioshock, and maybe halo 3 (wasn't a big fan of the first 2) but two of those i can play on my PC so *shrug*

if you have the money, and you can't live without the PS3 exclusives, i would go ahead and get one.

i had to sell mine because buying games on 3 systems was too much, and the xbox just happend to have less exclusives that i wanted

[f1seb]

I have a PS3 and I love it. There are some great titles that you can get for it already. Of course I think I was the only one who noticed you said you want to hear from PS3 Owners, so I don't know what the 360 crowd is here for....oh yeah to tell you not to get it. Well if you decide on getting one try to find the older 60gig model. That one comes with the EE chip and it plays your ps2 games with better compatibility. The newer systems have that removed and rely on software emulation for backward compatibility. If you care about that thing, if not get the newer models. Online gaming seems fine, I've played my F1 game and I have no problems on the PS3 network. You will definitely see a huge difference in the front end for the network compared to xbox live. It looks rather cheap as if designed by a 10 year old. But it works. New games are coming so the argument of that is getting less viable month by month.

[brisknfade]

As someone who owns both a ps3 and 360 I would have to say that unless you like any of the exclusives, then wait on it.

Granted the games are getting better, but as it stands it's not worth dropping 400 bones on, unless you really want a Blu-Ray player.

[redtop91]

There are some great titles that you can get for it already. Of course I think I was the only one who noticed you said you want to hear from PS3 Owners, so I don't know what the 360 crowd is here for....oh yeah to tell you not to get it. \

Typical sore loser mentality. He never said he wanted to hear from PS3 owners only. Besides the opinions given so far are as unbiased as I've seen ever when it comes to this discussion. It's not our fault no one has a PS3 and this thread would have went empty unless someone replied.

[C-Kwik]

A good friend of mine ran across a good deal on a new 60 GB that was still at Best Buy. He bought it yesterday. It's actually his second PS3. He justified the purchase as he wanted another Blu-Ray player in his bedroom and the ability to play there as well in case his wife and her sister are watching TV in the living room. This is good news for me as I have a 360 that I don't often use so we may do some console swapping here and there as more titles come out.

[f1seb]

Typical sore loser mentality. He never said he wanted to hear from PS3 owners only. Besides the opinions given so far are as unbiased as I've seen ever when it comes to this discussion. It's not our fault no one has a PS3 and this thread would have went empty unless someone replied.

I'm not a sore loser. Remember that the ps3 has been released for 1 year only. And when somebody says he wants to hear from ps3 owners, then yeah you're right it'd doesn't mean only. But it doesn't mean he wants to hear from 360 owners either. Got it?

[redtop91]

No I don't get it. Why are you so anal about people's opinions. At the end of the day they are just that, opinions. But since you seem to take attacks on the PS3 so personally chew on this one. The 360 has been consistently outselling the PS3. The 360 has had more Editor's Choice software titles than the PS3 has prospective titles in the near future. 360 outsold the PS3 and the Wii in Japan. I don't find anything appealing about the PS3. Stop complaining about other people's opinions and learn to take a joke. How sour you are about this means that some of what is being said is true. Got it? Even if not, I'm not ruining this thread further with this discussion. Make another thread if you wish.

[f1seb]

No I don't get it. Why are you so anal about people's opinions. At the end of the day they are just that, opinions. But since you seem to take attacks on the PS3 so personally chew on this one. The 360 has been consistently outselling the PS3. The 360 has had more Editor's Choice software titles than the PS3 has prospective titles in the near future. 360 outsold the PS3 and the Wii in Japan. I don't find anything appealing about the PS3. Stop complaining about other people's opinions and learn to take a joke. How sour you are about this means that some of what is being said is true. Got it? Even if not, I'm not ruining this thread further with this discussion. Make another thread if you wish.

Ok kid you win. You showed me.

[redtop91]

Always willing to show a confused PS3 owner the light.

[R240sx]

What alot of people dont realize is that the ps3 has actually had a decent year for its first year when compared to the 360. it may not be selling as well in the US but in other markets such as europe where its pretty split with a ps3 lead, and japan which is all nintendo and sony, the ps3 has had decent sales. Also now alot of solid titles are coming out and when compared to the wii which launched at the same time, it has more games that has recieved a +85 metacritic score.

Its foolish to say oh the 360 has had more critically acclaimed titles since its been out since 2005, while the ps3 just celebrated its 1st year plus 2008 will be an incredible year if GT5, MGS, FFXIII, Killzone II, (that i can remember off the top of my head) live up to there expectations.

either way, the best thing to do is to research the ps3's upcoming game library and see if it has things that will appeal to you. the ps3 is feature rich, and if you have a psp makes for a great media server as you can stream any media from your ps3 to your psp anywhere that you has a psp connection.

[R240sx]

360 outsold the PS3 and the Wii in Japan. I don't find anything appealing about the PS3.

Im sorry but please give me what ever your smoking, the 360 outsold the ps3 one week in japan when halo 3 came out, and only by 1k, but its never came close to outselling the wii, ever i dont think. while it has been selling better that the original xbox, a 12,000 monthly average compared to about 68000 for the ps3 montly average and 100000 monthly for the wii, i dont see how your coming to this conclusion.

[redtop91]

http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/834/834094p1.html

[R240sx]

http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/834/834094p1.html

Unfortunatly for that article it was written the week before the white ps3 and omnimisu warriors 6 came out.

http://www.n4g.com/industrynews/News-83450.aspx

these are the figures for the week directly after ace combat 6 came out.

Nintendo DS - 82,000 PlayStation 3 - 56,000 PlayStation Portable - 55,000 Wii - 35,000 PlayStation 2 - 9,400 Xbox 360 - 7,000

[redtop91]

Somehow I'm more inclined to believe IGN than some random gaming link you dug up. Either way, the 360 has a decisive lead over the PS3 in the US and is gaining steam in Japan. I'm not trying to turn this into a PS3 versus 360 debate but I'm more than happy to refute the petty PS3 owners who are so offended by people's opinions.

[MinisterofDOOM]

Unfortunatly for that article it was written the week before the white ps3 and omnimisu warriors 6 came out.

http://www.n4g.com/industrynews/News-83450.aspx

these are the figures for the week directly after ace combat 6 came out.

Nintendo DS - 82,000 PlayStation 3 - 56,000 PlayStation Portable - 55,000 Wii - 35,000 PlayStation 2 - 9,400 Xbox 360 - 7,000

That's WEEKLY sales. Not totals.Weekly sales mean nothing in the grand scheme of things. Ad campaigns, price changes, new models, and the fact that it's now Christmas shopping season and everyone already has a 360 all contributed to the above numbers.

[R240sx]

That's WEEKLY sales. Not totals.Weekly sales mean nothing in the grand scheme of things. Ad campaigns, price changes, new models, and the fact that it's now Christmas shopping season and everyone already has a 360 all contributed to the above numbers.

I know, but if redtop would have read his article, It was Based on 1 weeks worth of sales, which the next week the ps3 pushed those numbers that i posted.

From the article you posted

Microsoft is having one impressive week over in Japan. In addition to grabbing the second slot in the Media Create top 50 sales charts with Ace Combat 6, the 360 sold 17,673 hardware units in one week alone. With the new sales, the system has at last crossed the 500,000 sold mark, which is something that the original Xbox never did.

If you read the article on IGN it bases its numbers from media create japanes hard ware sales, which they give on a weekly bases, not monthly bases. What its essentially saying is that for 1 week, the first week of November, it out sold the ps3, but barely, by a margin of about 200 give or take some.

since you like IGN here's one saying how its up, like in my article.

http://ps3.ign.com/articles/835/835418p1.html

and finally, that article redtop posted quotes at having finally passed the 500,000 mark this month, the ps3 passed the 1 million mark in july, and here is another article from IGN also stating it.

http://ps3.ign.com/articles/805/805957p1.html

[bmike818]

Xbox360 > Wii > PS3 nuff said

there is a reason why you are buying a PS3 last...this will be the order for me as well. If I get a Wii it will be way before a PS3

PS3 is cool if ytou got extra cheese...I have played it numerous times. instead of buying a PS3 I bought a Halo 3 Xbox