The matrix has you...

[GatorS14]

flying looks fun.i wanna do it

[[Zero-S]]

Ooo me too.

[Zebrahead]

I don't understand how any of you can say Enter the Matrix (the game), sucks. The controls are a bit funky (pressing a lot of buttons at once to get a desirable effect), but don't take longer than an hour to get used to. I enjoyed the use of the movie's plot to supplement the games. Its cool to watch the movie, see different parts of the story, then play the game and see those same parts of the story from a different perspective. Very cool. The graphics are good, the bullet time (aka "focus") is well done, and the easy blending of martial arts to shooting (or vice versa) was well done. I would wholeheartedly recommend it to anyone who likes 3rd person action games.

Now to the movie ...

To be honest, I enjoyed the second more than the first. Pure entertainment value was much higher because of the intense actions scenes (the first movie don't got nothin' on the Reloaded's action coreography). But overall, the first movie was a better movie. It seemed to flow better, and didn't use so many of hollywood's lame a$$ conventions you see in almost EVERY movie; i.e. sex scene (which was pointless other than to convey their love for each other), rave scene (utterly pointless, actually works against the idea of humanity; they portray it as WAY to sexual and immoral), and the lame "young, bright eyed, annoying" character (ex: Jar-Jar Binks from Star Wars). Luckily you barely see him.

I believe after the first matrix, there was a LOT of explaining to do when it came to ZION and many other aspects of humanity and the matrix itself. That's why there was so much talking, because everything had to be explained to properly make sense. Everyone says the movie was confusing; imagine if they cut the movie down and didn't explain anything - then it would be even MORE confusing becuase you wouldn't know what the f*** was going on!

For my opinion - I'm starting to believe that Agent Smith is a real person. His archtype copied by the matrix, and used as a template for an agent. Once Neo destroyed this agent in the first movie, the Agent Smith's body in real life was killed, but his mind (the copied portion) remained in the matrix. He splintered from the matrix's control as a Rogue "mind without a body." This is how he entered the real world, by killing that guy, and entering the dead guy's host body as the "new brain". Its a little far fetched, but surely an idea that could be entertained.

I really enjoyed the movie, and plan to see it again tommorow night.

Nick.

[SilviaLuvr]

Hmm good point which leads me to anohter, how long has smith been in the matrix??? remember there were three diferent agents in the first one smith and the two other guys that looked somewhat the same. in this movie they all looked the same, it seems as if smith didn't really belong(in the first movie as an agent) also with the first movie remember when smith was intergating morpheus, he wanted the codes to zion he knew what questions to ask, when nothing happend, he excused the other two and "unplugged" his headset or took if off venting about how badly he wanted the codes to zion he also said somethign about when zion is destroied, there would be no purpose for my exsitance. whats up with that?!

[Eklectrick]

he was not aware of the cycle at that time and figured that if zion was destroyed there would be no more resistance and therefore programs like him wouldn't be necessary.

consider this: the agents on the freeway were only concerned with the keymaker. but if they had caught him, neo would never have made it to the archetect. but the archetect built all of these guides to get neo to him so he could make the final choice. I am guessing that not everything in the matrix is controlled by a "master consciousness" but lesser programs do what they are programed to do. If smith or any of the agents knew the real nature of the matrix, they would act differently. it's all a balancing act to keep things in check but at the same time allow neo to make it past impossible odds to the final choice.

something else just popped into my head. on the lines of smith being a real person. what if he was one of the origonal "the One"s. maybe he was copied or given a choice to be an agent for some reason. that would strengthen his link to neo. He would have lesser powers because he's an older version. maybe a stretch?

[TrueSlide]

Just got back from seeing it, it was awesome!!!

Your point about smith sounds good, I just think he was a worm virus within the matrix, cause the matrix is just a big computer, so there must be viruses somewhere :thinker

Ill go and probley read this thread, so I can get the whole idea of whats going on.

[corn322]

I'm with everyone else here that think's the "real world" is just a matrix inside the matrix. remember when colonel sanders said that the current version of the matrix adapts to what's happening? (or something like that) so the matrix adapted to what was happening, so they think they're in the "real world", but they are still inside the matrix. but Neo figured it out when he said he could feel the squid guys comming at the end. that's how he stopped them. damn I can't wait for the next one. November 7th.

[JESTER]

I like the theories on Smith.If you remember the preview to part three. the Oracle was talking about Neo having to fight and beat someone to put an end to the Matrix (SMITH). ?????

Darn it! I dont want to wait to November!!!! Even thou I was as crazy about this one, it has gotten my curisoty up.

[slw240sx]

damnit, i got to go see this movie!!!!!

[[Zero-S]]

Eklectrick I like your theory on Smith.

[Ajax]

I was just watching the first one and forgot about this line from the oracle, "One of you is going to have to die."Naturally if you only see the first one you can assume Neo just beat the odds and fate and saved both their lives. What if this isn't the case and one of them does need to die?Ow, stupid brain exploding... too much thinking.

[[Zero-S]]

I don't think anyone else from the main cast is gonna die. Unless they do it for the sheer fact of neo going crazy and destroying everything (just imagine if trinity died...oh gawd)

[JESTER]

This is a rather long thread for a lame movie. The movie took too long and was too drawn out. But darn, it leaves you guessing, don't it?

[Eklectrick]

I was just watching the first one and forgot about this line from the oracle, "One of you is going to have to die."Naturally if you only see the first one you can assume Neo just beat the odds and fate and saved both their lives. What if this isn't the case and one of them does need to die?Ow, stupid brain exploding... too much thinking.

the oracle doesn't realy see the futrue imho. she is a program that is able to read a person to such an extent that she can say something to make a person do what she wants or needs them to do. Morpheus said it in part one: "she told you exactly what you needed to hear" or something like that. I think everything she is doing is meddling with the way the matrix is supposed to work by manipulating what people are doing. If you see it this way, the fact that she told trinity she would fall in love with "the one" is her way of throwing a wrench in the archetects plan. his choice at the end should have been obvious to take the people and start a new zion, but since he was in love with trinity he couldn't make that choice. I think she told her that to make neo make the choice that the archetect didn't want him to make. am I rambling?

[[Zero-S]]

No but its a good theory so keep talking if you have more.

[SilviaLuvr]

it's her purpose. i had to say that. if you remember in the 2nd movie, and you seen the "sight" with the gardiun, youseen the matirx and this ball of light. Neo walked into the room and started to talk to him asking him questions as to what he is. I don't think the gurdian or the orcal are apart of the matrix but teh angels that are suppose to be there. another think that i think about is why is it that teh gurdian was in such a hurry to leave the courtyard. surely him and Neo would of ended smith right there. I guess seeing the to the orcals safty is his prime objective! another thing i think about is what was up wit that big @$$ explosion from the building at the end, why did that building blow up? did the archetect die? (considering it was the same room that he was jsut end) and in the trailor with the matrix revolution, why didn't any of the other billions of Smith's jump into the fight between Neo and Smith. in the trailor, it's pouring down rain and it's neo and smith abotu 25yrds away from each other. smith talks (assumption) neo talks and lighting hits. the camera shows neo walking up to smith and when this happens, there are billions of smiths on that side adn when they show smith, it's the same thing, billions of smiths on the other side as well making a guntlet. he's also in the buildings. i guess the entire city was taken over adn the only way to stop smith is by destroying the orginal copy.

[Eklectrick]

another think that i think about is why is it that teh gurdian was in such a hurry to leave the courtyard.

sorry dude, I usually don't make fun of people's typing skills, but that sentence is damn funny.

BTW, you may have missed the part where the keymaker explained that if they miss the window to get in that door, they'll trip the security system that is rigged with explosives. when he chose to save trinity, he was back in that building but the window had passed so he tripped the security system which caused the building to blow up.

[SilviaLuvr]

sorry about that sentence (been up since 5:30am and it's now 11:45pm working after working wit my dad for 10hrs and then putting another 5 in at my part time job. all of which is coming off of 4 hrs of sleep) it was suppose to say...another thing that i thought about was why was the gurdain in such a hurry to leave the court yard?

[[Zero-S]]

Because he knew that Smith was coming. He was trying to protect the Oracle. I wonder what ever happened to marking spoilers...oh well I guess that should be understood by now.

[SilviaLuvr]

Zero_S LOL you sig is funny "Mr. Anderson"!

[[Zero-S]]

Thank you.

[TrueSlide]

Smith is a VIRUS!!! Iam telling you, he is a worm. He infects the file(person) and then makes a copy of himself and spreads(all them andersons were clones) They keep infecting and infecting. He is a worm virus!!! Haha

[Eklectrick]

yes I agree that is what he is now. I think that's what that scene is all about from the preview for matrix revolutions; Smith has imprinted himself on everyone in the matrix like a virus.

[TrueSlide]

I havent seen the previews of revolution I wasnt paying attention to the previews before the movie either!!! I will probley go see reloaded again anyways.

[SmithSR]

I am not a virus. There is no matrix.

[JESTER]

I knew there was something about you. You are a virus and are trying to infect all of us. Run Mr. Anderson, SmithSR is after you. LOL

[240_Keyy]

I thought it was cool how the chocolate cake gave that blonde chick an orgasm

[JESTER]

I want the recipe. I would bake up a batch and be giving it away to every hot chick I saw. Of course if the cake got them off, they wouldn't need me.

[240_Keyy]

good point jester, but you could still watch

[JESTER]

Oh, and I would, too.