The matrix has you...

[SilviaLuvr]

yeah me to. i want to know whats up wit that too. smith got out because spoilers he's not connected anymore. why do you think in that fighting scene whne he was fighting all the smiths, the old women walked by and become the new upgraded agent and not another smith. I don't think smith can absorbe anybody like the other agents. remeber he gave up his rights of being an agent. i don't know what he is know! i think he just might be another Neo for all we know!

[creophus]

The next one will have to be excellent to bring it all together. I'm wondering what's up with the matrix in a matrix thing too. My roommate brought up a good point. He said that the council leader was probably the previous chosen one. He thinks that there might be 25 (or was it 24) people on the council, 17 women and 8 men. Don't know if that hold us though. Also, Neo should have bum rushed the architect. He would have been sitting there saying, "I am the architect..." then BAM, a boot to the head! That would have been funny and no one would have seen it coming. Why sit there and talk to the guy who started all this crap? If you wanna fight someone, this is the guy to fight! Kill him and he won't be able to build another matrix.

Oh well, maybe they'll do that in the 3rd one.

[SilviaLuvr]

that is tru and the architect aslo said that it consisted of one choosen one and eveyone else was just picked...freaky...that would of been coll but the architect would of seen it comen. the TV's in the back was all the things that he would of done or thought, so he would of seen it coming.

[JESTER]

Pop a cap in his A$$!

They should have released the third movie in two months after this one, max.

[SilviaLuvr]

wouldn't sell

[Gonad]

Hi,I loved the movie; I'd have to see it again to know whatthat Architect meant.

And yea, the twins were cool. Being bored, I tried to findpics of what these two looked like without makeup.I was surprised to find this link:

http://www.ugly.org/trayment_neil_adrian1.html

See for yourself (the link is safe, nothing vulgar).

Bye!

[Eklectrick]

My experience of the movie was slightly jaded because as I walked from the movie in downtown Minneapolis on a Sunday, I was horrified to discover that my 240sx obsession had been towed- costing me $160- 20 times the price of the movie!

that blows, but I have to welcome another mpls member. I think that makes 4 or 5. woo hoo.

[Eklectrick]

Pop a cap in his A$$!

They should have released the third movie in two months after this one, max.

I thought that was what the plan was? did they push the date back or something?

[JESTER]

They said around Thanksgiving.

That is too long to wait. I mean more like July. The first part of July.

[creophus]

No...they've got to milk this one as long as possible. At least its coming out in the same year. They could have made us wait even longer.

[[Zero-S]]

Ha yeah. I can't wait to see what mass confusion they cause us in the next movie...I've seen this one twice and I still can't figure ((everything)) out.

[JohnI3laze]

What I got out of the movie is that Agent Smith and all of his new clone buddies are "rogue" programs within the matrix that can re-write code and thus alter other programs. Thats what the Oracle was telling Neo right before that whole Neo vs. 100 Agent Smiths scene. What I don't get is how Agent Smith became a "freelance" agent in the first place. At the end of the 1st movie, Neo possesses Agent Smith and makes him explode, and somehow this causes Agent Smith's liberation from the Matrix. All in all I liked the movie though, I'll just hafta see it a couple more times before it makes sense (like the 1st one )

[JohnI3laze]

Oh and the ending was indeed kind of a rip-off, mid revelation like that.

[SilviaLuvr]

neo code got printed on to smith like he said or thinks! smith knew what he had to do but he didn't. agent smith (since the matrix is somewhat a computer) is a pop-up add that doesn't go away! i belive in the third movie, all of our Q's will be answered.

[[Zero-S]]

Haha we can compare smith to a pop-up ad now. Whoa.

[Myrk]

Have heard of the Animatrix. It is 9 Episodes that have to do with certain things of the Matrix. So far I have only seen the first 4 because they are downloadable and the DVD with all of the episodes comes out June 3rd. These 4 that i have right now explain a lot about some things.

Go here to download the first 4 eps. http://www.intothematrix.com/

The 1st and 4th episode have to do with how the robots took over. Very interesting stuff. I recommend looking into it to get some other things explained.

[GatorS14]

those animatrix's are cool(i like the rennisance)I liked the movie alot,especially the highway scene.Anyone notice all the GM vehicles(with no gas tanks?)?I think the reason neo has powers in the "real world" is because of the agent crossing over.You have to remember this guy is a program that is in the "real world".maybe neo's new powers are the parrallel of having a program(mr.smith) outside the matrix.I still beleive the phrofecy.

And I beleive the gaurdian of the oracle will have an important roll in revolutions(matrix 3).did anyone notice how he stayed right with neo when they were fighting?

I wanna see T3:rise of the machines

[SilviaLuvr]

when did this "did anyone notice how he stayed right with neo when they were fighting?" happen??? when i was watching the superbowl pres. the gaurdian, trinity, and morpheus where all running into some sourt of club guns blaz'n looking for Neo! when did, what you said gator, happen???

[GatorS14]

the gaurdian said "i was making sure you were the one" right before neo visited the oracle,

[Myrk]

About Neo having powers outside of the Matrix from my view is like this. You remember the KFC guy talking about their has been more than one Matrix but those others failed. To me I think that the so called "Real World" is just another Matrix with more limitations.

[SilviaLuvr]

OOOOOO i just reread your post, i get it my bad! thats a good though...you might have something there...

[C-Kwik]

About Neo having powers outside of the Matrix from my view is like this. You remember the KFC guy talking about their has been more than one Matrix but those others failed. To me I think that the so called "Real World" is just another Matrix with more limitations.

Actually they did not. They have been able to predict the actions of the "One" in each Matrix. The agents even said right after Neo took off on a Superman flight that it was just like before. The Architect said that Neo would either choose saving Trinity or having to free some 7-8 of each sex to continue in the new Zion. If you think about it, in the first Matrix, Morpheus tells Neo the one who freed the first of them had the powers Neo now possesses. It would be easy for those that were freed to percieve that they are the first. And no way to know that the entire process is nothing but a perpetual cycle.

As far as the Matrix inside a Matrix, that would actually explain the dreams. If Neo is still in a Matrix, they would still be able to manipulate his thoughts. Therefore the dreams can be implanted. Agent Smith would also not be able to exist outside the matrix, even in another's mind.

[Eklectrick]

I think the reason neo has powers in the "real world" is because of the agent crossing over.You have to remember this guy is a program that is in the "real world".maybe neo's new powers are the parrallel of having a program(mr.smith) outside the matrix.

interesting. I like the idea that neo is somehow inbetween the matrix and the real world as someone suggested. this whole double matrix idea concerns me tho. It makes sense, but that would be waay too much to handle cuz it would almost invalidate both of the previous movies and it would be too hard to explain that and wrap it all up in one final movie. I think that they have given enough hints tho for a person to be able to figure out what's going on. it seemed like all of the major monologes (sp?) were just dropping clues and planting seeds. I gotta see part one and then go see part two again.

on another note; I am bugged about that whole freeway thing. "you said the freeway was dangerous" they never explained that. Why was it dangerous? why did they go there? was it supposed to be some sort of alternate exit? it made for an awesome action sequence, but did I miss something?

[Rockenreno]

they went on the freeqay to get away quicker from the virii. I don't remember Morpheus saying the freeways are dangerous in the first movie, but either they just left it out and hoped people wouldnt care or i missed it...

[SmithSR]

C'mon.. we all know episode 3 is gonna end with his alarm clock going off.

[GatorS14]

morpheous said "the freeway is suicide"

think about it cars and trucks moving 80mph(lots of cars&trucks)and at any time any of the drivers could be an agents ready to kill you.

I beleive the "real world" is real(no double matrix)

and about the "creator"(KFC dude) of matrix program,I really liked when neo said something like'' we are your energy you can never get rid of us"or something like that. and the creator was like"we(the machines) have other means of energy if it comes to that"was this guy bluffing?I think saving trinity and starting over with just 27 "real world humans" was the way to go. it seemed that zion was doomed anyway(the machines where almost there). I think they wanted to neo forefit saving trinity and the other 27 or whatever because if he chose to save zion it was probly being destroyed as they were speaking.taking us back to CHOICE.

would ya'll think i was weird if i told you i had a dream about the highway sequence 2 years ago?and didnt realize exactly what it was until i seen the movie.

[[Zero-S]]

I wouldn't because I had a dream about (get this) installing windows NT like a year before it happened (about 1.5 years back). Nothing out of the ordinary.

[Ajax]

What about...What about if when neo jumped inside of smith in the 1st movie, there was some sort of computer code that was added to neo's code (kind of like DNA insertion) and inversely some code deleted from smith, allowing them to be part of the other's world (neo- part of machine, smith- ability to operate freely of machine).I dunno, just thinkin.

[[Zero-S]]

Could be. We won't know until the 3rd movie, but we can still specualte.

[creophus]

I think neo gained new powers that the machines didn't know about because he's a step above all of the others that have been the one. Remember when he stopped all the bullets, the bad guyse were impressed. Also the architect said that he reached a certain decision faster than the others did.

Also they setup the one and made him feel an obligation to mankind. That's why they all chose to restart mankind. Only Neo is in love with someone outside the matrix.The machines had to get Trinity in the matrix or his choice would have been easy. They didn't think he would be able to save her. But he did and brought her back from the dead. They weren't planning on this because its never happened. Now he's got powers over the machines outside of the matrix.

I don't think there's a matrix in a matrix. It would be just too hard to rap it all up in one movie. I think that Neo's mind is truly free and now he has real super powers. No one else's mind is truly free because the machines were manipulating them still. Even Morpheus, Trinity and the people in Zion. Up until this point, everyone has been doing what the machines planned for them to do.

Now its a different ball game!