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georgegto
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Does anyone know where i can find an air mix door,cabin temp sensor and sunload sensor, and harness for the dcc unit?


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charlie2020 wrote:You guys don't need any particular swing arm you just need one thats longer than the JDM swing arm, I modified a longer one with a lil bit enginuity, a torch and a hammer modify a swing arm to work for you its really easy.....what needs to be done so you get the full range of motion is line up the mix door motor swing arm with the cooling unit pivoting arm so that they are as close to parrallel with eachother as possible for best results......
Easier said than it shall be done. I thought about modifiying the rod to make it work but I got nothing.

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georgegto wrote:Does anyone know where i can find an air mix door,cabin temp sensor and sunload sensor, and harness for the dcc unit?
Talk to Dammitboy, he hooked me up zerothread/208899

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Really its not hard at all but I recommend using the water c*** control rod since its twice as long this part is pictured and titled on page 9......actually that is the rod im an now using rather then the one posted in the pic although that one does work u cannot get full range with it.......the hardest part is getting the control rod to to do full range but its all in teh placement of teh mix door motor or manipulating the control rod (bending it) to make both pivot points more parrallel to eachother...

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I'll try it...thanks!

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Hey charlie2020 whats a water c*** control rod? Or where do you get one from? Thanks.

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240_ESEX wrote:Hey charlie2020 whats a water c*** control rod? Or where do you get one from? Thanks.
Its opposite the control rod on top side of teh control unit box so teh dash would have to be removed to gain access to one in teh junk yard...

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so hard to find some parts. anybody got a good place to get some of these parts?

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Can I take my rod off and use it to connect to the Mix Door Motor, or leave mine alone and take another off of another car? Plus I have a Blower Motor Sensor from a Q45 with auto climate control, would that work fine for this install? Thanks to everyone for the help. This sucks, but I'm sure will be worth it.

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need help with my DCC setup! i have my wires setup as so:

1. Green/White stripe, on small white 7 pin plug, this needs to be ran to an Ign+. This wire can be moved to an empty spot on large white 16 pin plug (see page 1 of ericherm1's thread for the location it is moved to)

2. Blue/Red stripe, on the small white 7 pin plug, this needs to be ran to a Ign+. I tied this wire into the large Blue/Red stripe wire on the blower motor.

3. Red, the plug with a single wire, this needs to be ran to a constant +12v. I tied it into the memory wire for the radio, Red/Black stripe.

i do not have my ground wire hooked up, as i am not sure if i should cut it and ground it on the USDM side of the harness, or on the JDM side of the harness, i am confused about that and need clarification! i am assuming i ground the side the goes to the DCC unit, and not the side that goes to the harness, correct?

anyway my problem is that since installing the DCC my interior dome light sometimes works, and sometimes doesnt, and my car alarm is the same. could this be caused becuase i do not have the ground wire hooked up?

also one last thing, i removed the motor that i belive controls the fan speed, i think the mode motor? it kind of looks like the JDM air mix motor. was i suposed to leave this in?

any help you guys can give me would be great! im about 75% done with my install and just got these last few hills to climb! thanks!

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xdarkrune, yeah you are suppose to ground your ground to the JDM side of the harness, leading back up to the DCC. About the Dome Light and Alarm acting up, IDK maybe someone else can help out on that one. And I too need help with the part about that "Mode Motor." If you look at page 9 charlie2020 posted pics from a FSM with that motor, its actually a Max. Cold Air Motor and next to it is the Max. Cold Relay and the two are attached to the same bracket. I took mine out to mount the Mix Door Motor in its place, but does anyone know if we need the Max. Cold Air Motor or its Relay? Cause charlie2020 even noted that not all S13 have those.

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thanks man, turns out the dome light and alarm are related, but not to the DCC..my door sensor is out of whack and it thinks it not shut or something...oh well...anyways back to the DCC

i'll fix my ground and and then play aroudn with it some mre and see what i can come up with..i hope i can get this finished soon!

BTW if anyones got an extra air mix door motor with the linkage bar and everything let me know! i'll willingly pay $$$$$ for it!!

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what are the sensors that you need?

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Max cold door motor is a USDM part and is not the equivalent of the JDM Mix door motor you must use a JDM Mix door motor.

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i have the JDM mix door motor. what im trying to say is that i took off the max cold door motor in order to mount the JDM mix door motor. and i was wondering if i was suposed to leave the max cold door motor on or if it is okay that i took it out.

i dont need any sensors..just the linkage for the JDM mix door motor

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(just felt like useing a smiley, your cool dude) I too took out my Max. Cold Door Motor and put the Mix Door Motor in its place but not hooking it up to the same parts. I've got these Came with Unit I boughtTook the Blower resistor sensor and the Thermo Control Amp off a Q45 from 1990-93. But they should work right? How do I splice the three pronged Blower resistor sensor into the four pronged US Blower resistor sensor? And also the Thermo Control Amp?

If the parts I have are good, then all I would need is are the Cabin Air Temp Sensor and an Aspirator. And i'm sure the Q45's have the Cabin Air Temp Sonsor but when I go to the junkyard its a couple of wires and a hose. If i were to take that off the car a put it in mine, where would that hose connect to in my Air Box. Apidog, can you get those?

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And to answer the question about the Max Cold door motor and relay im 99% sure you can remove those two pieces with no problems....like I said not all S13 come with them anyways....
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I have 2 complete set of DCC unit with uncut harness, sensor and motor till the section it heads to the main fuse box and ignition.

I can part those up and sell.

please give me your best offer.we will work out the detail later

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How much can you ship a Cabin Air Temp Sensor and Aspirator to the US to Riverside, Ca. Zip code is 92504? If you want you can PM me. Thanks.

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I guess im noob but does anyone have a picture of the aspirator, Im waiting for my motor resistor sensor right now to finish this

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These photo are taken from JDM S13 Silvia front clip.

i) Cabin temp sensor mounted to the climate control console

ii) this is how the aspirator hose look likes

iii) cabin temp sensor

iv) the mounting point of the cabin temp sensor

v) connector from DCC main unit to cabin temp sensor

Vi) this is where you mounted on... air mix BOX?? i dont know the proper term.




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apidog, do you hsve the JDM air mix door motor, complete with linkage? if so, how much shipped to san jose, ca 95132? thanks!

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xdarkrune & 240_ESEX : u got mail!

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xdarkrune wrote:apidog, do you hsve the JDM air mix door motor, complete with linkage? if so, how much shipped to san jose, ca 95132? thanks!
If you have another one with linkage then I'll take it!

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Just a quick note, R32 Skyline airmix door motors can work as well if you cannot get a hold of an S13 motor. I used to have like 10.

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Here are a few pics of the Resistors:

Above left is the JDM DCC Resistor and on the right is the USDM Resistor.

Notice the JDM DCC Resistor has 3 prongs whereas the USDM ACC has 4 prongs, JDM is on left and USDM on right

I'll also note for the record the JDM Resistor is a direct plug in with the USDM harness no splicing or re-wiring or re-pining is needed (wiring colors are identical only the blue w/red strip wiring is a thicker gauge on the JDM harness but same color) BUT you do need to make a spacer or else the Resistor will butt up againt the a aluminum pipe that runs threw the place where the resistor mounts.

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Great news charlie2020, I didn't know if splicing into it US harness would be neccesary, but thanks for clearing it up. Can't wait for my parts to get here, its cold and I need a heater.

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240_ESEX wrote:Great news charlie2020, I didn't know if splicing into it US harness would be neccesary, but thanks for clearing it up. Can't wait for my parts to get here, its cold and I need a heater.
Yea I wanted to make that clear since its never been clearly stated, I also wanna clear up which if any USDM DCC 3 prong fan control amps work also and I will soon.....

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Thats great. I got my Aspirator and Cabin Temp Sensor like an hour ago and hooked it up the Cabin Temp Sensor to the harness, but I'm not sure where the opposite end of the Aspirator hose connects to.


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just upload the photo. here's where the jdm aspirator hose mounted to.pls scroll up
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