S Series Revival. Make a Petition to Carlos Ghosn.

[mrgreeneyes]

its nice that you have a dream car picked out soravia.

i do too. its a 91 s13 modified to how i want it. (my friend totalled my s13 hatch last night, and i already have a coupe today) thats why im on this forum. maybe you should make a forum for all the dreamers out there for cars that dont and wont exist. meanwhile, ill be here, building another car without skipping a beat and keeping my dreams grounded and my head out of the clouds.

besides, 98.2% of s13 owners can only afford s13's, not a new 1000hp, awd, super dori, carbon fiber piece of sweet hottness at a meager $20k

[Ninjamasta]

^ hyundai has nothing they can teach nissan

You may be right, but what I'm trying to say is that, who wants to buy a 28k-38k 350z, unless you have too much $ to spend. Hyundai is offering similar car at 20k-25k.

If everything works out for Hyundai, Nissan might have to reconsider a new coupe at that price range.

[brizanden]

dude soravia the more and more you talk the more i think you know nothing about what you are talking about and are just having unrealistic goals. first the altima is sexy lol and yeah it has a v6 version but its still fwd changing drivetrains normally not option and second mustangs and imprezas/evos not in same class imprezas, guessing your talking about stis and evos are way way better equipped road race cars awd yaw controls big *** turboes way better suspension setups and all kinds of nasty tuning from the factory i cant see a hyndai competing with those two legends, but then again i prolly am gonna get proven wrong. i know you want another s we all do im pretty sure, but huge car companies dont cater to enthusiast they cater to the masses.

[Soravia]

No, I was not talking about EVo or STI. Just everyday Lancer ES and Impreza.

Anyway - Here are some quick specs.

New Nissan Silvia Specs

Body - 2 Door Coupe Fast-Back

2 Door Coupe Base

- 2.5L Inline 4 with 175HP- 4 Wheel Disc Brake with ABS Std- Front Air-bags Std- 6-Speed Manual or CVT Tansmission- Vehicle Stability Control System Std- 15 Inch 5-lug alloy wheels Std- Front Double-Wishbone Suspension with Rear Multi-Link Std

Interior- Steering Wheel Cell-phone / Stereo Control Std- MP3/CD Player with i-Pod connect Std- Power Window and Keyless-entry Std- Cruise Control Std- Leather Steering Wheel Std- Technometer Std- Sub-woofer Std- Engine-Lock Anti-theft Std- Cup-holders Std- Sport seats with Driver Multi-Adjust Std

Optional- Premium Sound System- Leather seats- Traction Control (i.e. Helical Limited Slip Differential)- Tire Pressure sensor- Side Air-bags

2 Door Coupe K's

- 3.0L V6 VQ30HR Engine with 250HP- 4 Wheel Disc Brake with ABS Std- Front & Side Air-bags Std- 6-Speed Manual Std- Vehicle Stability Control System Std- Tire Pressure sensor- Limited-Slip Differential Std- Track Edition non-adjustable suspensions Std- 17 Inch 5-lug alloy wheels Std- Strut-Tower bars and anti-roll bars Std- Front Double-Wishbone Suspension with Rear Multi-Link Std

Interior- Steering Wheel Cell-phone / Stereo Control Std- MP3/CD Player with i-Pod connect Std- Power Window and Keyless-entry Std- Cruise Control Std- Leather Steering Wheel Std- Technometer Std- Sub-woofer Std- Premium sound system- Leather Sport Seats with Driver Multi-Adjust Std- Engine-Lock Anti-theft with 2-way Alarm Std- Cup-holders Std

Exterior- Spoiler Std- Sport Aggressive Hood Std (MazdaSpeed 6)- Rain-sensing wipers

Optional- CVT Transmission with paddle shifters- Voice Activated GPS Navigation- Aero-Kit

some crappy sketches by me.

I know the rear looks like a mix between Boxter and Eclipse. No one said economy coupe has to be boring.

[White Comet]

^ u spend a lot of time writing sh1t im too lazy to read

[sommmatt]

lol white comet

Soravia... just let it go.

[sicride]

Soravia, right now nobody thinks anything you're saying has any intelligence behind it. That paper you used to draw the car.. Take your idea's and write them on some of that paper. Then hide it in your desk so whoever reads it in the future will think it's good ideas cause hopefully you'll be the only one reading it then.

The most expensive parts of making different models? designing a new chasis and a new engine. You are now asking Nissan to design completely new chasis and completely new engines for this car. With low sales. You do notice that the sentra and the altima and the rogue use the same 4 cylinder right? Probably want to stick to that. They surely are not going to design a new V6 for an entry level sports car. There 'is' a chance in hell that they could modify a 350z chasis and wrap it in a new body, so maybe RWD isn't too far fetched. If your idea is for a bare bones affordable entry level performance vehicle then you better market to the actual performance drivers. The people who don't necessarily want ABS or VDC (Vehicle Dynamic Control, Nissan doesn't have stability control), let alone have it standard on a car they're interested in. Something many people are interested in performance oriented or not is air bags. Side airbags should be standard too and they will be soon on all new vehicles.

You obviously don't know a whole lot about sound systems either because making a subwoofer standard in this car doesn't necessarily mean it'll be better. If the vehicle is truelly performance oriented, again there will be many people who don't want the extra weight and would like good standard speakers or even fewer speakers than the now norm of 6 in most cars.

Please do not pursue a career in business or economics, and if you do... don't try to work for Nissan please, they'll go out of business ten times quicker than GM is with you in charge of anything.

[brizanden]

pwnage ^ lol, but in his defense his last attempt was a lot more realistic then awd tt v6 lol

[Death Wish]

http://news.windingroad.com/bo...s-car/ Did anyone see this?

[White Comet]

i saw that awhile ago. supposed to be like a Z but a little smaller and w/ a 4 banger

[Soravia]

I saw that like a month ago, through The Torque report link.

The air-bags and VSC and sub-woofer are all marketed at one point, the $20K consumers. Most younger generation buying a NEW car are funded by their parents and most would like to see their kids lives saved by air bags and stuff. Personally I would throw out an airbag to save weight. I also hate sub-woofers because they drown out the other frequencies.

The revised spec above was made after reading through car comparison for NEW cars that are popular with younger generation 18-24.The one on top of the list is Scion tC. You'll notice that those specs I put down are very similar to Scion tC, except in the V6 model. Small options like sub-woofer are cheap stuff any car maker can afford.Options like air-bag or VSC really gets the customers because they reduce the risk with younger driver and also lowers the insurance a tiny bit.

Younger generation who can afford a car would ususally go for a 2003/2004 model 350Z for $15K instead of some crappy Kia 4Door for $15K. But most who rely on their parent probably won't get the 350Z the same way they won't get the '76 Corvette.

Yeah the drawing sucks, but the chassis design is actually a copy cat of the 350Z, just shorter and narrower. The engine is basically taken out of the Altima and made for RWD. Cheap stuff, just like the old 240sx KA24DE. Cheap, looks good and light weight RWD. But LSD should be standard in all Sport models. It really bugs to drive a RWD without one.These days, Cheap car usually means crappy design or awefully terrible handling on the road. Why can't cheap cars be just be cars with cheaper components and less powerful engine?I would like the see the cheaper Nissan RWD take the design cues from the higher models and just use cheaper materials in place of all-aluminum suspension etc, and not go "This cheaper Lancer DE has Trailing-Arm Rear Axel while the Lan Evo has Independent Suspension in the rear."

BTW, Hyundai is bringin out their RWD coupe w/o killing off the Tiburion. It seems they want to keep the Tiburion around a bit. <_< no one buys that crap, why are they still keeping it anyway?http://jalopnik.com/cars/la-au...3.php

Has better brakes than the G35 TouringPRELIMINARY PRODUCTION CAR DETAILS• Engine type: V6• Estimated horsepower: more than 300 horsepower• Estimated torque: more than 250 lb. ft.• Displacement: 3.8 liters• Block material: high pressure die cast aluminum • Cylinder head material: aluminum• Valvetrain: Dual Over Head Cam (DOHC)• Valve timing: continuous variable valve timing• Estimated 0-60 mph: under 6 seconds• Transmission type: 6-speed manual • Front brakes: Brembo, 340 mm disc, twin-piston calipers• Rear brakes: Brembo, 330 mm disc, twin-piston calipers• Limited slip differential
Modified by Soravia at 10:35 PM 11/19/2007

[S3t0_S13]

id buy everyone who posted in this thread a silvia if it works

[Soravia]

It doesn't have to work. Nissan is already designing a smaller RWD coupe. We just need to tell them to not make it like another Sentra SE-R. (4 lug wheels, poor body design, too heavy etc.)

[White Comet]

u can revise ur ideas all u want and list different options but i dont think its ever going to be in the realm of possibilities

[musashin]

u can revise ur ideas all u want and list different options but i dont think its ever going to be in the realm of possibilities

[babowc]

failure.

wont happen.

[idahotuner]

free post

[SStrunks]

Um how bout we just quit with the day dreaming and just ask them to start producing s13s and s14s again? maybe bring the s15 to the states...but i doubt they'd even do that...that there in itself is day dreaming too i guess.

I'd be down to buying a brand new s14 with jdm k aero, or even a brand new 180sx if such a thing existed.

[SketchyRollin564]

Cheap4 banger most likley a QRRWD2 doorsback seatsdecent suspension5 lugsABSnot ugly

This is all nissan needs to make. the idea of optional V6 and all that stuff is retarded. It ruins the whole "simple, light weight, inline 4, rear wheel drive car" idea. A turbocharged option would be better.

This new car doesnt have to be an S chassis, but mabey just a car with all the stuff i said above, and i could definatley see it selling. Selling mostley to car enthusiasts and people who want an affordable simple car that looks good.

[idahotuner]

[S3t0_S13]

http://news.windingroad.com/bo...s-car/

[White Comet]

Cheap4 banger most likley a QRRWD2 doorsback seatsdecent suspension5 lugsABSnot ugly

This is all nissan needs to make. the idea of optional V6 and all that stuff is retarded. It ruins the whole "simple, light weight, inline 4, rear wheel drive car" idea. A turbocharged option would be better.

This new car doesnt have to be an S chassis, but mabey just a car with all the stuff i said above, and i could definatley see it selling. Selling mostley to car enthusiasts and people who want an affordable simple car that looks good.

true, it would have to be simple to pull it off and personally i'd say no abs but add vlsd to that list

[karmakaze]

this thread fails.

making a rear wheel drive altima coupe is the only real intelligent suggestion in this whole thread.

it still won't happen though, and it would make the altima more expensive anyway as RWD is more expensive to produce than FWD.

[ShinHed]

A rwd Altima doesn't make sense because, it'd basically be a G35 coupe with a Nissan Badge

I could care less for a new 240sx because I already own 3 and aspire to own something better than these sh*ts (sh*t doesn't mean I don't love them).

Can't be a "boy" racer forever.

[GhostDriver]

The most expensive parts of making different models? designing a new chasis and a new engine. You are now asking Nissan to design completely new chasis and completely new engines for this car.

if nissan makes a new rwd passenger car, i hope to god it's not an "s16". a new platform is a must. no rusty crusty ladder frames (sorry 240sx).

anyway, a new sporty rwd option would kill Z sales.

to all the hopefuls do everyone and yourself a favor and build a Locost.

[sommmatt]

WC... I don't think you'd be able to sell a car these days without ABS. I wouldn't buy it.

[White Comet]

^ yeah, i know abs is like a staple but i just dont lie it, if i had a car w/ abs i'd just disable it so i guess the "new 240" ( ) can have it since i'll take it out when i order mine 8 wheels drive quad turbo please for a penny, used gum and the lint in my pocket

[sommmatt]

yeah but that model isn't around till 2010... guess you just have to wait.

[White Comet]

i'll just import one straight from Jah-pan

[shift_boost]

It doesn't have to be the old S-chassis. Just need to take the spirit from it. Look at the 350Z and the new GT-R. They took the main ideas of the old style and put in the new technology.

The idea of S-Chassis was to slot below the 350Z and being light weight as well as budget to cover for lack of horse power. It also had looks (except the S-14 Zenki)

Sentra SE-R has no looks or performance and the Altima coupe SE has only HP to rely on. Even with Sport suspension the car is too front heavy to handle any better. Might as well get Acura.As for the petition, I'm gather more and more ideas to put up a car that can replace both SE-R and Altima Coupe SE. I'm no good at sketches but I think I can manage a coupe based on 350Z frame design. All the new Nissans look like that anyway. The CEO said 'All new cars with hidden front roof line".

Easy killer, don't hate because you don't appreciate teh sexeh!