S Series Revival. Make a Petition to Carlos Ghosn.

[hpmachine]

If all you guys would buy a new s-chassis if it came out for 20 grand... why don't you buy a used 350z right now for 18 grand? hmmmm....

[S14toRPS13]

If all you guys would buy a new s-chassis if it came out for 20 grand... why don't you buy a used 350z right now for 18 grand? hmmmm....

Because even if I had a 350Z, Supra, GT-R, insert bad@ss car here_______, there'll still be a part of me that won't be fully happy because I don't have a 240/s-chassis. Then again, I also have some extreme obsession with these cars that probably isn't very normal.

BTW, while we're at it. Why don't we all write Nissan and GM and ask them to collaborate to give us a S-chassis with the option of a LS7? and we can throw on both Nissan and Chevy badges on it and ask for them to price it at 20k brand new.

[sommmatt]

I laughed so hard because it's so true. Like seriously who the F!@# needs traction control and stability control and all that nonsense. I don't mind side airbags and airbags that is secretly hidden lols. Your rant just made my day.

well seeing as I lost traction last night and screwed my DD up, I wouldn't mind traction control, since re-engaging the clutch in a wet turn broke loose the wheels causing me to understeer into a curb in the wet. I wouldn't have minded anti-lock brakes, either.

[Soravia]

Traction control works only in slow speed, like on snowy roads. If you just keep ripping down the road, it'll probably throw the car out of balance by putting brakes on this and that side as it wishes.

ABS are more usable than traction control.

If we can't agree on what should be OPTION for the new car I think we can at least agree on what should NOT be on the S16.

- No more than 1200kg on weight.- No iron block engine.- No less than 150lb torque.- No traction control w/o turn-off switch.- No ugly Sentra or Maxima coupe look.- No wide seat for fat people.- No 2 seaters.- No more 4 lug wheels.- No Drum brakes.- No FWD.- No Beam or Torsion Axle.- No Small wheels.- No narrow wheel wells.- No more than 60 on F/R weight ratio.- No 4 Door.

[hpmachine]

SO where is the petition? I'll freakin sign it already. Although I do think it's kinda silly because the 350z is basically what you've been describing. Not withstanding the s-chassis infatuation that some people have, why not just buy a used Z? I mean seriously if the 350z had come out and been labeled 's16' would you guys have gone ape over it?

[BOOMSHAKALAKA]

Except mine, it smells like grape

[S14toRPS13]

If we can't agree on what should be OPTION for the new car I think we can at least agree on what should NOT be on the S16.

- No more than 1200kg on weight.- No iron block engine.- No less than 150lb torque.- No traction control w/o turn-off switch.- No ugly Sentra or Maxima coupe look.- No wide seat for fat people.- No 2 seaters.- No more 4 lug wheels.- No Drum brakes.- No FWD.- No Beam or Torsion Axle.- No Small wheels.- No narrow wheel wells.- No more than 60 on F/R weight ratio.- No 4 Door.

Yes, that makes a lot of sense. I can agree to that. Although I'll need the kg conversion as I live in the US and only care about lbs, feet, and whatever it is that only we use.

I mean seriously if the 350z had come out and been labeled 's16' would you guys have gone ape over it?

Probably but freakin' Nissan had to market it to the mainstream crowd by calling it a Z. Just so they could sell a couple 10's of thousands more. How dare they?!!

[xckid]

lol this thread is still alive, well im 18 and i still got a long time so i can wait to see what happens

[offroadbob]

I wish someone would draw up a rendering of what they think the newest s- chassis should look like... If I had a better modeling program and a lot of time on my hands I would have a sweet *** rendering. But, for the time being I have this... HAHA use your imagination and smooth out all of the crappy lines.



Yea I know I drew this up when I was a little drunk and checking new posts on NICO. Also I think that the headlights on my drawing should have been a little skinnier.

peace

Modified by offroadbob at 9:45 PM 11/13/2007
Modified by offroadbob at 9:47 PM 11/13/2007

[ser2102]

Guys, im pretty sure they have retired the S series chassis. just like they did with the B series sentras. Even if they did make a smaller rear wheel drive car, it would be an entirely new chassis. the S series is outdated and probably wouldnt pass safety standards, yadda yadda yadda.

If anything, they would make a G35 looking car, but smaller and cheaper. it would be great to have a rwd 4 seater coupe or hatch and im all for it. to keep it at around 20K, you would basically get a car of equal quality of the sentra spec-v. probably same motor, QR25de, or whatever they changed it to now. It would have to be a four banger, most likely NOT turbo, since nissan hasnt had a turbo car here in the US since the 300zx. The GT-R does give some hope, but look at the price of that car and the engineering that went into it.

The car would be over weight, probably 3K pounds give or take 100lbs. think of all the new safety equipment that comes in cars and how fat nissan is making their new models.

If they do make a rwd cheaper sports car, it probably wont have the 240sx name, maybe 250sx if they do the QR.

so there you have it, a car that looks similar to the G35, only smaller, cheaper interior, about as many options as a spec-v sentra, and isnt all that quick for around 20K.

[tramp_drift240]

the drawing up there looks like a mix between some VIP infiniti mixed with a kouki s14, mixed with clouds.

kill this thread. im tired of seeing that it has new posts. jeez louise.



/thread

[White Comet]

well seeing as I lost traction last night and screwed my DD up, I wouldn't mind traction control, since re-engaging the clutch in a wet turn broke loose the wheels causing me to understeer into a curb in the wet. I wouldn't have minded anti-lock brakes, either.

ive never had traction control and never needed it. ive driven rwd every year in teh snow, no probs

[funigui]

a g24...get it

[EazyBreazy]

orange

[Ninjamasta]

I got a solution! Revive the S15 chassis with KA24DE engine. That would defenitely make the 20k goal. After that I would simply throw in SR in it.

[thefro526]

I got a solution! Revive the S15 chassis with KA24DE engine. That would defenitely make the 20k goal. After that I would simply throw in SR in it.

Lol greatest idea of this thread. Lol

But seriously i think the S chassis is dead just because there's not really a place in the nissan line-up for it the only way it would work is throught a Scion like brand (stated before) or if it replaced the sentra (stated before)

[White Comet]

I got a solution! Revive the S15 chassis with KA24DE engine. That would defenitely make the 20k goal. After that I would simply throw in SR in it.

im sorry but worst idea in this thread. u cant take a somewhat iconic car and cut the power in half

[BOOMSHAKALAKA]

I got a solution! Revive the S15 chassis with KA24DE engine. That would defenitely make the 20k goal. After that I would simply throw in SR in it.

[skydragoness]

Why is this thread not locked?

[White Comet]

no idea, but ur sig looks awesome

[Zippy69]

I can't believe this sh*t aint yet.So where is that danged ol' petition at anyway?I'm waitin' to sign it so I can go buy my 500hp s-16 with awd and 4ws and locking diffs at both ends, plus I want a 7 speed transmission too.It's still going to be under $20k right?

[Soravia]

You know, there are a lot of people who ***** and moan about how the whole idea is not going to sell.Has anyone check the Nissan USA site for Altima coupe? You can have 2.5L 175HP with 6-speed for 21K MSRP and 275HP V6 for 24K MSRP.

Here's the link, try for yourselves. All I'm suggesting here is a similar RWD with better look and less weight (and crap techno gadgets such as drive-by wire or GPS)

http://build.nissanusa.com/configurator/app

They can use that to replace both Sentra SE-R and Altima Coupe SE.

[Zippy69]

Easy there Rhubarb. I'm on your side. I would love to see Nissan put a small high-performance rwd sports car in the mix( go back and read my posts).All I'm saying is #1. This thread has gotten quite silly, and I am baffled as to why it is still going with out being locked or removed.#2 Where is the petition?#3 What are you realistically going to petition for? I don't think Nissan has any intention on bringing back the s-chassis so what is it you want specifically?

[Soravia]

It doesn't have to be the old S-chassis. Just need to take the spirit from it. Look at the 350Z and the new GT-R. They took the main ideas of the old style and put in the new technology.

The idea of S-Chassis was to slot below the 350Z and being light weight as well as budget to cover for lack of horse power. It also had looks (except the S-14 Zenki)

Sentra SE-R has no looks or performance and the Altima coupe SE has only HP to rely on. Even with Sport suspension the car is too front heavy to handle any better. Might as well get Acura.As for the petition, I'm gather more and more ideas to put up a car that can replace both SE-R and Altima Coupe SE. I'm no good at sketches but I think I can manage a coupe based on 350Z frame design. All the new Nissans look like that anyway. The CEO said 'All new cars with hidden front roof line".

[Zippy69]

I'm not saying it's not worth a shot, but Nissan has done very well with their Altima line And I just don't see them dropping it in favor of a whole new design.I like the looks of the new Altima coupe, I just don't like fwd. But I'm in the minority as Nissan would look at it.People like us, who enhance their cars performance, rarely go out and buy a new car to work on and upgrade. We buy a car that's several years old and modify it to what we want. The car we want doesn't exist, I may want to drag while you want to drift. I need 500hp but you only need 200.I know you have caught a lot of flack for this thread but you need to look at the big picture, It is not impossible, just extremely unlikely.

[Ninjamasta]

Lets say if Hyundai did good with its new Mustang killer RWD coupe, only then Nissan might see it as a threat to its 350z market. Nissan 350z might be the better car, but if I could save 5k-10k on Hyundai and use that money for upgrades, its a good deal. Its still too soon to predict these outcome, but I'm hoping for the best that Hyundai might smack some sense into Nissan.

[White Comet]

^ hyundai has nothing they can teach nissan

[mrgreeneyes]

^ hyundai has nothing they can teach nissan

wrong. they had a DIY on their site a while back on the topic of EPIC FAILURE. it was really well written and easy to follow. at the end of the tutorial, you ended up with re-used old@ss DSM motors and shoddy build quality. its a good read.

heres the link

Fail Tutorial Online

happy reading
Modified by mrgreeneyes at 2:59 AM 11/18/2007

[White Comet]

touche, i loled at that

[Soravia]

Seeing how Mustang GT prices run close to 350Z Track Edition, Hyundai RWD coupe will basically eat out the V6 Mustang market. It still won't dent the V8 Mustang since most buyers are after muscle cars and the retro look anyway. Other cars like Miata, Mazda 3, Lancer, Impraza would be affected since the RWD will have comparable power and some good performance for less money.Being a larger RWD, there would be plenty of aftermarket upgrades to hook to the engine. I'm thinking that car will sell very well when it comes out. Hopefully it won't be a gas-guzzler like Mustang or Camaro.

Cars like Mitsubishi Eclipse are already out of the game. There are more RX-8 on the road than the new Eclipse, V6 or I-4.
Modified by Soravia at 11:37 AM 11/18/2007