S Series Revival. Make a Petition to Carlos Ghosn.

[Pruett89]

honestly all this is soo pointless. if any of us want to see something change the automoblie industry then get off your computer and get a career in the industry. other wise stop talking about a rebirth of the S chassis it isnt going to happen Nissan has moved in a new direction and if you cant see that your living in the 90's

[bahamet]

A new s chassis wont make money.

Just another thing broke *** 240sx owners have to dream about.

That's a good one.

On a serious note, few of us are hyping the dream a little too much. 1) There should be NO too much option packages like the FTO in its own market (9 versions for 3 different motors - niche-marketing the hell out of it). Such tactics won't work in the US.

2) There should be NO standard stuff that can even remote touch the mantle of the top dog: 350z. Forget the GTR . . . I see it sell as much in volume as a Vector in the US. NO TT or AWD.

3) No over hyped frills like CF parts here and there. Nonsense.

How?Cheap alternative: 1) tweak the S15 chassis 2) bring the S15 body 3) No SR20-based motors 4) Put a VQ20 or 25 or 30DE. Choose 2 to market 5) keep it simple and don't follow the way of the 4g eclipse (big and fat to compete w/ the Grand Am GT).

The machinery and tooling are already in place. Have a production year for about 2.5 or 3 years before a real S16 to arrive.

[Soravia]

They could just use the 350Z design on chassis with less aluminum parts and amount of stiff steel to reduce price and weight.

[fourLUG_hero]

V6 Twin-Turbo for smoking the Mustang and Corvettes. AWD option for snowy areas and wet roads. Different LSD options for drifters and muscles.

Add in about $8K for V6 from 350Z. Not as good on handling but the car will make power to beat any Honda or Mitsubishi or Mustang.

Fvcking idiot.

possibility to outsell Honda Civic.

Tell me, are you smoking something ? This topic better be a joke.

[S14toRPS13]

sorry, Nissan has people who's job is to perform market analysis and they are pretty accurate when it comes to determining what will make money and what won't. If these ludicrous ideas for an s16 could make money, they would of already gone down that path.

and you do realize that in 98 they only sold 2178 240sx in the united states right? they would be stupid to bring that back.

Modified by karmakaze at 10:05 AM 11/9/2007

Although the 240sx did end up a huge failure in the US, I'm sure Nissan realizes the new gain in popularity the S-chassis has found. It depends on if this turns out to be just a fad or are the drivers going to be loyal to the S-chassis. Because a few years from now when these 240 drivers graduates from school and starts working full time, they will have the money. The question is, will they be loyal enough to buy a new S-chassis?

[xekushnr]

Its probably already been said (I sure as hell didnt read many posts) but it's been done multiple times before, and guess what? Nissan has no plans for an S16. This one wont make a difference either. Even if a petition gets 100,000 signatures (which I think one of them has had), how many of those people will still want the car in a few years when it comes out, AND have the money to buy it? How many of you have $30k to drop on a car? I sure as hell dont. The problem is, the tuning industry changes. Unfortunately, the 240sx is a fad car. We have had a lot of new members here over the past couple years because of it, but how many will still be here in 5 years?

[S14toRPS13]

Some of you may have seen this already, but look at what's in the minds of Nissan. Not exactly the S16. This again shows that car manufacturers are still about a decade behind on youth car culture. Who still wants cars like these? FWD hatchback? Who are they tryign to target? High School Honda Fanboys?! WAKE UP NISSAN!!!! (yes I know these have been out for a while)

Nissan Sport Coupe Concept

Nissan Azeal Concept 2.5 4 cyl. turbo, 6 speed garbage

So maybe 10 years from now, Nissan will start to think about bringing back the S-chassis.

[chitownguy]

They could just use the 350Z design on chassis with less aluminum parts and amount of stiff steel to reduce price and weight.

[White Comet]

They could just use the 350Z design on chassis with less aluminum parts and amount of stiff steel to reduce price and weight.

just a little bit ago u said it would be as heavy as if not heavier than the Z, but now u want it to be lighter? u need to make up your mind

That's the whole point I've been saying. the NEW S16 cannot replace 350z even if it has the same engine.

you think a 500hp $30k car wont replace it

Infunity

[xdarkrune]

all this fanboy bull**** reminds of of that fanfiction **** people write cause they cant let go of the fact that there fav tv show, movie, video game, what the **** ever has been cancelled, or what have you. MOVE ON WITH YOUR LIFE. s-chasis is long gone, quit trying to bring it back, it wont happen. here's an idea, quit dreaming of a new car, and just work on your own. you ***** and ***** about OPTIONS but that is just something that will never fly. you honestly think nissan, and any other car maker havent thought of these things before? you do realize that they are professionals right? in business and marketing. and you're just some fanboy who can't let go of the fact that the s-chasis is old news. GET THE **** OVER IT. you want tt awd? buy a ****ing gt-r.

[TrueVillan]

Not to be an a** but, Soravia you have got to wake up man. Ive read all of the past pages and you just kept on rambling about the perfect 500 HP, S Chassis for $20k with every possible luxury as an optional package. Get your self a 350Z because I really dont think theres going to be an S16 any time soon. The best thing that Nissan could come up with that would not challenge the 350z would be a RWD with lsd, 180-220 HP S16 with a Turbo option. Maybe, but why??? I dont know, what I do know is that Iam happy with my S14.

[AE240SX]

All these ideas are great but the S chassis was something that had many years of development and evolution behind it, correct me if I'm wrong. The car it self chassis and suspension wise is a pretty simple design that was tweaked over time. With the modern crash and emissions regulations who knows what we'll see in ten years. Some people think that "cars" like the Ariel Atom will become commom place meant to be enjoyed at racetracks, not on the streets. The only way that Nissan would make a car to slot below the Z is if the Z went up market in size, price, performance and competitors(like it did with the original Datsun Z). Buuuuttt, if Toyota is thinking about making a small RWD 2 door coupe in the spirit of the AE86 and those start selling like hotcakes and more importantly, at a profit, then we might see a modern successor to the S chassis.

[karmakaze]

Although the 240sx did end up a huge failure in the US, I'm sure Nissan realizes the new gain in popularity the S-chassis has found. It depends on if this turns out to be just a fad or are the drivers going to be loyal to the S-chassis. Because a few years from now when these 240 drivers graduates from school and starts working full time, they will have the money. The question is, will they be loyal enough to buy a new S-chassis?

there is not enough of an s-chassis fan base to justify bringing it out ever again.

It will not happen. Period. Get over it. Who cares.

[BusyBadger]

Casette tapes and parachute pants? Laugh Out Loud funny there!

First, lets see a show of hands on how many people here can actually qualify for a car loan for a car that costs say $25K

Everyone that doesn't have their hands raised - shut up and get back to your paper routes, lawn mowing and algebra homework.

Now that we have all the dreamers gone lets look at just three of the cars that a new S-chassis would be competing against:Mazda Miata, Pontiac Solstice, Saturn Sky

All go for $25K +/- all 4 cylinder N/A engines - decent suspensions - NO TURBO - two of them are convertibles and one of them is one of the most dependable cars ever made. Suggesting that Nissan would roll out an un-established model without knowing how successful the GTR release is (doubtless it will be a success but car companies are a little conservative, they aren't quite as loose as Phil Ivey going all in on facing two over cards on the flop).

Now look at what the same $25k can get you in a lightly used car, 350Z, STi, Evo, RX8 (despite its lemon rep), and if you want to look further back and RX7, MR2, 300Z - wow, I can't understand what Nissan is thinking not doing another S chassis. The closest thing to a new S chassis came out this year, its the new Alitma coupe - and the sporty 270HP version of that costs what - $35K?

Most of the S-petitioners wouldn't be happy with what came out if Nissan decided to put something out: too slow, too expensive, not sporty enough. Car manufacturers produce for the masses, not the minority and they have stockholders and a bottom line to be responsible to. If you really want to petition Nissan, wait until the rwd Hyundai coupe comes out and buy one - if it sells well enough Nissan may decide its a market worth getting back into.

[musashin]

Casette tapes and parachute pants? Laugh Out Loud funny there!

First, lets see a show of hands on how many people here can actually qualify for a car loan for a car that costs say $25K

Everyone that doesn't have their hands raised - shut up and get back to your paper routes, lawn mowing and algebra homework.

Now that we have all the dreamers gone lets look at just three of the cars that a new S-chassis would be competing against:Mazda Miata, Pontiac Solstice, Saturn Sky

All go for $25K +/- all 4 cylinder N/A engines - decent suspensions - NO TURBO - two of them are convertibles and one of them is one of the most dependable cars ever made. Suggesting that Nissan would roll out an un-established model without knowing how successful the GTR release is (doubtless it will be a success but car companies are a little conservative, they aren't quite as loose as Phil Ivey going all in on facing two over cards on the flop).

Now look at what the same $25k can get you in a lightly used car, 350Z, STi, Evo, RX8 (despite its lemon rep), and if you want to look further back and RX7, MR2, 300Z - wow, I can't understand what Nissan is thinking not doing another S chassis. The closest thing to a new S chassis came out this year, its the new Alitma coupe - and the sporty 270HP version of that costs what - $35K?

Most of the S-petitioners wouldn't be happy with what came out if Nissan decided to put something out: too slow, too expensive, not sporty enough. Car manufacturers produce for the masses, not the minority and they have stockholders and a bottom line to be responsible to. If you really want to petition Nissan, wait until the rwd Hyundai coupe comes out and buy one - if it sells well enough Nissan may decide its a market worth getting back into.

well said.

[sommmatt]

Well that RWD Hyundai is supposed to have 2 L Turbo 4 cyl and cost about 20 grand, and a V6 version for 25. I think I'll be buying that one if they don't start to fall apart in a few years.

[Soravia]

I'll buy that one and swap the engine into my S-13. That Hyundai looks like a RWD 7th Gen Celica.

[redtop91]

there is not enough of an s-chassis fan base to justify bringing it out ever again.

It will not happen. Period. Get over it. Who cares.

Yep. Think about it. Say everyone active on this board, key word active, goes and buys an S16. You have an outstanding first, second, maybe even third year. Then what? Car companies are looking to establish long lasting brands, not a car that all the niche people buy and then that's it. The masses propel car sells, not the enthusiasts excluding supercars.

Now look at what the same $25k can get you in a lightly used car, 350Z, STi, Evo, RX8 (despite its lemon rep), and if you want to look further back and RX7, MR2, 300Z - wow, I can't understand what Nissan is thinking not doing another S chassis. The closest thing to a new S chassis came out this year, its the new Alitma coupe - and the sporty 270HP version of that costs what - $35K?

Add TT Supra to that list.

[smurf13]

all im gunna say is that nissan needs a entry level rwd sports coupe (or hatch) on the levels of like the new civic si. doesn't have to be a new s-chassis, does not have to be turbo, i also think a new s-chassis (silvia nameplate) could be possible in Japan since they were such a huge success but most 240 owners in america are school students just looking for a fun car and will most likely sell them as soon as they get out and get good jobs

[musashin]

...will most likely sell them as soon as they get out and get good jobs

oh no he didnt...

[smurf13]

owh yes i did, although i hope they dont go out and sell them, and i have no intention of selling mine thats what i think nissan is thinking, their gunna go out and buy a z-car or a g35

[Zippy69]

The Saturn Sky is available with a turbo and I think so is the Soltace.But the fact remains that Nissan won't build another 240sx.But they just may build a rwd entry level sports car if the market warranted it.If all nico members were to write to Nissan, then got all their friends and family to write Nissan, then maybe ,just maybe they would take a look at it.Would I like to see an s16? Hell yes I would, but I also would like Chrysler, Chevy and Ford to reach back to the 60's and build some decent cars again.But it probably won't happen.

[silpena]

i would be happy if could get the same s13 with an 180sx factory areo and tweaked ka engin(not turbo) just fixed the rev issues and some things all brand new from the factory be hella lot cheaper than redoing the who s chasis. kinda like replacing all the s cars that have gone to hell.

[Soravia]

Once you redo the interior and brakes a face lift, S13 to S15 can beat the crap out of these crappy 'ALL-NEW' cars. I've driven many of these new cars in the same price range as S13 and they all drive like crap. i.e. S13 with all the shocks and brakes gone.

[White Comet]

The Saturn Sky is available with a turbo and I think so is the Soltace.

same car

[BusyBadger]

The Saturn Sky is available with a turbo and I think so is the Soltace.

Both of them are available with in a turbocharged version, but I didn't list them due to price. The Sky Redline weighs in at a touch under $29K and the Solstice GXP just a shade under $28K. That's the base tc'ed model, no sport tuned suspension or leather wrapped steering wheel - the little touches (well, the sport suspension isn't little) that make a decent car much nicer. I think Pontiac even has you buy a package just to get cruise control.

[sommmatt]

The pontiac is uglier, hence cheaper. No one wants the ugly car.

[White Comet]

but the sky looks like they tried to copy the mr2 spyder and couldnt figure out how to make it MR so they threw the engine up front

[sommmatt]

You'd rather a solstice over a sky? (I know you'd rather another car all together, but answer the question lol)

[White Comet]

i guess the pontiac if i had to (but ur right i say non, lol)