removing plenum update

[jimbyjimb]

This is a bit of a dead subject, but a side note on the Fram filter. Your dad gunna buy you a new engine when the cardboard sealing the element to the case disintegrates, clogs your oil screen and fry's your bearings or worse from oil starvation? I used to use Fram filters for years, until I had to clean up the mess they left in my oil pump pickup screens. Pony up the extra buck or two and buy a decent Wix filter from NAPA or CarQuest. On both of my jeeps I had to remove the oil pan and physically unclog the cardboard disintegrated from the Fram filter in the pickup screens because neither jeep had oil pressure. Factory Nissan and Infiniti oil filters are now identical to the Fram, so don't use them either, as where when the Q was new they were all metal and O-ring construction, just as any decent filter should be and Wix filters are. Pulling the oil pan is a big job over an oil filter, especially on a Q that doesn't have a non-exotic/parts cheap and everywhere 4.0 inline in it. Pulling the pan on the Q is very labor intensive. If you don't pony up you will pay, it's no gimmick.

Other than the filter schpeel, I admire your willingness to venture into the unknown, 007, and Think you'll have one nice ride when you're through. One more reason not to trash all this hard labor over something so small and cheap as a bad brand of oil filter. I encourage you to get a good filter and a Fram, cut them open and see for yourself what it is you're doing to the car. You'll find the Fram's are easy to cut.

[unknown007]

Thanks for the info.My oil change is coming soon so I'll try to pony up a couple bucks on the filter.Thanks and trust me I don't wanna remove the oil pan unless it needs replacing.Other than that **** that.

[maxnix]

....especially on a Q that doesn't have a non-exotic/parts cheap and everywhere 4.0 inline in it. Pulling the pan on the Q is very labor intensive. If you don't pony up you will pay, it's no gimmick.

That is the big lesson you must learn. This board has seen a hundred ex-owners who thought Autozone was a good place for G50 parts but could never understand why their G50 never ran reliably.

This is a life test for you. Either you can figure how to bail, or you can study the FSM and read the previous posts here and decide how you will succeed. Patience, persistence and thoughtful care will get you through if you want to succeed in this project and others that will come your way and determine you fate in the world. So, your choice.

One other thing I recommend for the immediate future is start using FireFox or get the IE7 spelling plug-in. This will help you at least see how standard English should look. Evidently your education to date and present home life have not taught you the importance of correct English in communication, especially in a written medium like this forum. Correct spelling, grammar and syntax will help your communication and understanding immeasurably. It will also open new doors of opportunity for you in the future, just as completing this project will reward you with a sense of accomplishment.

I am saying this because I don't think you are stupid. On the contrary, I think either your education has been lacking, or your motivational environment is insufficient. It all depends on your vision of the world and what you think will be possible for you to achieve in your life. I would encourage you to enrich yourself and go for it.

So retrench, read all the previous posts on the plenum job, accumulate the parts and tools you will need, and proceed very carefully on your meticulously rebuild. If you do, you will accomplish something few of your peers anywhere has. And that is far more valuable an experience than just hanging with the homies in the hood.

[Q451990]

[NightRiderQ45]

This is a bit of a dead subject, but a side note on the Fram filter. Your dad gunna buy you a new engine when the cardboard sealing the element to the case disintegrates, clogs your oil screen and fry's your bearings or worse from oil starvation? I used to use Fram filters for years, until I had to clean up the mess they left in my oil pump pickup screens. Pony up the extra buck or two and buy a decent Wix filter from NAPA or CarQuest. On both of my jeeps I had to remove the oil pan and physically unclog the cardboard disintegrated from the Fram filter in the pickup screens because neither jeep had oil pressure. Factory Nissan and Infiniti oil filters are now identical to the Fram, so don't use them either, as where when the Q was new they were all metal and O-ring construction, just as any decent filter should be and Wix filters are.

I will 2nd this comment. Wix/NAPA filters are the best bang for the buck and it will work well with our oci's. Please do not purchase OEM oil filters. Those are the worst in build construction. I've seen them cut open so I'm speaking for experience. They look just like Fram filters once cut open.

One other thing I recommend for the immediate future is start using FireFox or get the IE7 spelling plug-in. This will help you at least see how standard English should look. Evidently your education to date and present home life have not taught you the importance of correct English in communication, especially in a written medium like this forum. Correct spelling, grammar and syntax will help your communication and understanding immeasurably. It will also open new doors of opportunity for you in the future, just as completing this project will reward you with a sense of accomplishment.

I am saying this because I don't think you are stupid. On the contrary, I think either your education has been lacking, or your motivational environment is insufficient. It all depends on your vision of the world and what you think will be possible for you to achieve in your life. I would encourage you to enrich yourself and go for it.

And that is far more valuable an experience than just hanging with the homies in the hood.

The guy is already down and you go for the knock out punch? How do you know that he lives in the hood? To the OP, was your car running horrible which caused you to tackle this project or did you just feel like doing this project because it was something new to you or because people here kept telling you to pull your plenum? No knock on you at all but I felt that this project was going to end up the way it did (not getting it back on the road). This is something that I couldn't tackle myself. I'm a electrical engineer, I'll leave the mechanics to someone else. The best of luck with you.

FYI...don't post your personal information because that is just fuel for the fire for some posters here.

[unknown007]

I will 2nd this comment. Wix/NAPA filters are the best bang for the buck and it will work well with our oci's. Please do not purchase OEM oil filters. Those are the worst in build construction. I've seen them cut open so I'm speaking for experience. They look just like Fram filters once cut open.

The guy is already down and you go for the knock out punch? How do you know that he lives in the hood? To the OP, was your car running horrible which caused you to tackle this project or did you just feel like doing this project because it was something new to you or because people here kept telling you to pull your plenum? No knock on you at all but I felt that this project was going to end up the way it did (not getting it back on the road). This is something that I couldn't tackle myself. I'm a electrical engineer, I'll leave the mechanics to someone else. The best of luck with you.

FYI...don't post your personal information because that is just fuel for the fire for some posters here.

Doesn't bother my for people to talk smack online when i post persoanl stuff.Honestly I've learned that and got over it.People online have no life's sometimes and that's when the flamming comes on.

For the car it will be up and running just give me time I don't give up. As long as your here helping me when I'm stuck it's all good.

For the autozone comment not trying to sound rude but I'd go to Autozone or whatever car part store there is to buy what I need.I got to Kregens it's like 2mins away.They maybe no have the best but if you take car of the car then it should work regradless if it's a autozone gasket.For the oil filter i can understand.I just want to say sorry I'm not as rich.

For my english I don't live in the hood, been in the hood, and raised myself in the streets and with my older cousins.Sorry. That's how I do.To be honest I suck at english failed every single year and if you flame on me go ahead a lot of people tend to fail from the lack of the teacher. No my fault she bores me.

Anyways I'm not gonna give up I'll find money some how and will post up.So don't think it'll end up like most Q's but honestly they are a pain in the ***

edit:We all know this should stay on topic. So nomore talking about spelling/grammer just stuff about the car and my repair ok.Thanks.

[unknown007]

Sorry you missed the point.

Good luck! You'll need it.

I understand not to use autozone and cheap places for all my parts.I'm not gonna cheap out trust me I have to do my oil change when I'm done so i'll be buying one from NAPA.I also got firefox. Well if that's not your point I'll read it later my teacher keeps looking ahahhaa.

[NightRiderQ45]

I understand not to use autozone and cheap places for all my parts.I'm not gonna cheap out trust me I have to do my oil change when I'm done so i'll be buying one from NAPA.I also got firefox. Well if that's not your point I'll read it later my teacher keeps looking ahahhaa.

lol. Seriously, NAPA ProSelect oil filtes don't cost much. It's $2.68 last time I checked. I think it's cheaper than that Fram filter. Glad that you are not going to give up.

[unknown007]

Quick update.

Me loving cars and loving to fix them ends in a wrecked dream basically.From day one ever since i got the car i have kept track of anything that is going wrong.Not knowing anything about fuel injected cars i warned my parents about every little thing for example:My hood was needing replacment since it was bent.Parents said it'll be fine this and that.One day went 45mph and next thing you know my life almost ended.I could've crashed or something luckily i slammed on the brakes and went into a street and my friend was near by.That same day i was going to jump on the highway i mean can you picture what would've happened then?

Then my belts needed changing and it took them so long to buy it that i had to have my teacher confirm that i needed new ones for them to buy it.

My point is i warn them before anything else bad happens.My dad has no experience what so ever with fuel injected cars.He talks like it's my mothers rav4 or his yaris.He says that no mechanic or owner of the Q45 would waste money like i did.Im like they put thousands actually but of course he's mr.knowitall.He also says the parts don't need cleaning. well now i bought the parts and get blamed for paying $200+ when my dad said i can and tells my mother he didn't sorry i got a selfish dad he buys things for himself and argues with what we need.either way i tell them it'll save money in the future and all they say is your a ********** it's all in spainish don't worry. They say they throwing away money like nothing at my car when in reality they wanted me to get a BRAND NEW CAR. Why so i can slam it and void my warranty?So they stop paying and tkae my car away?

Well over all i'm ending my project flat broke no more parent support so now i'm with out a car for couple of months while i find my own way to earn money like i did in the past.

Well just a good update of what kind of stress and blame im going through and not giving up.Wish they'd understand that any used car would ahve problems and need repairs.

Well i thank you guys for teaching me and helping me will tune back once i get things on and so on.

edit:this isn't a problem of my life its a problem that i wasn't expecting to interfer and atleast my parents would support me in like they did when we visited UTI.

[Infinitiguy19]

So you don't have enough money to work on it or your not allowed near it?

With all I stuff I sent and will send: 2 Injectors, hoses and runner gaskets you should have a running car all you have to do is put it back together.

See if you can some how get away temporally get away with the old KS.

Best of luck.

[unknown007]

So you don't have enough money to work on it or your not allowed near it?

With all I stuff I sent and will send: 2 Injectors, hoses and runner gaskets you should have a running car all you have to do is put it back together.

See if you can some how get away temporally get away with the old KS.

Best of luck.

Dont wanna risk it.I want a car that wont break down again.I thank you for the hook ups time to get my hustle on though like really.All i been hearing today from everybody i talked to is:Your such a **** up!!! Can't take asking anymore once again i'm on my own and i really don't care about anybody anymore guess time to be selfish and get my car running.I'm not a quitter when it comes to things i need and started.

[qship96]

WOW!!!WOW!!!WOW!!!HATERS!!!Well yeah sticky it so this thread can make your guys all look stupid and be embarrassed that a teenager got the job done while all you (Trumpkin,qship96,maxnix) couldn't.It's coo though i'm not playing with a car buddy cars are my passion.all i do is sleep cars,eat cars,live cars,even my gf complains because i talk to her about cars and my cousins does to because we do.I take pride in learning and learning from mistakes.When will you learn if you haven't tried? Think before you post up something you never probably done and if you have good job if you screwed up then that's your fault.We all got different ways of getting things done.Thinking this like a game makes it less stressful because it keeps me calm and makes me take my time.But anyways nice of your guys posting B.S.

Thanks mx662 and Paul Wall if i was messing around then i'd be saying i did this and that with out asking.Guess some people are just born to fail in the auto industry and go off building boxes to blow up car windows.Lucky for me i can do both. Just don't got material to build on but i know how to measure it all out.HANDS ON!!!so don't test me. Okay anyways back on topic i will try to take pictures tomorrow hopefully i get that hose off.

You need to reignite the fire and determination you displayed in your above post from 2 weeks ago! Plow through it. Dig in.

[maxnix]

Exaggeration is one thing.

Lying what you don't know anything about is something else entirely.

[unknown007]

Exaggeration is one thing.

Lying what you don't know anything about is something else entirely.

WTF are you talking about?Well keep them fingers running **** it's coo.

[Denver90Q]

Maybe your mechanics teacher could adopt it as his pet project? Alot more fun than working on a Chevy.

[unknown007]

I don't know what's going through your guys heads.To make it clear i want to finish my car and get it running.

[Q451990]

If some working, although slighty cracked knock sensors will help - you're welcome to the ones in my garage... Just don't get yourself locked up "while i find my own way to earn money like i did in the past. "

Heath

[mxr662]

I've gotten bored and feel like just parting out the car.

I got more frustrated than bored but did feel like selling My Q while it was apart. Felt like just getting rid of it when the plenum was off and also when I did the chain guides.

I'm glad I kept it and persevered through the repairs. Compressing the springs to replace the struts went 10 times easier than I thought. I drive my Q daily now with no worries. Am starting to get an occasional miss but can handle that due to this forum and what I've learned from previous repairs.

Stick with it.

[unknown007]

Locked up?Na, I'm not talking about those things. But yeah I'm not gonna give up just the slight feeling you get when your fustrated.When I had my plenum off I was excited.

I was planning maybe broadcasting while i put it together will let you know what comes to mind.
Modified by unknown007 at 4:01 PM 1/31/2009

[jimbyjimb]

Do the best you can with what you have and you'll be ok. I don;t have much of a collection of spare parts but I'd be happy to send you what I could. My email is in my profile, please use it if you think I may have something you can use. There's a small chance but it's still a chance. Have to work together to keep these old buckets rolling.

[unknown007]

true that thanks.

[unknown007]

UpdateMother came in and told me to part out the car.All I'm missing are the knock sensors. I'm not gonna give up just need to find me some money now.

[Trumpkin]

Somethings wrong. My plenum job took me maybe 5 hours. Ordered the parts then tore it down. Is it the money? I think I read Wes can take his plenum off in like 15 minutes! My hero!

[Q45tech]

There are always a half a dozen exercises like this one each year..............a thousand post in 460 days and running out of funds.19 -25 years olds trying to keep Q on the road is very painful to watch.

[BLACKonBLACK98]

well, i'm gonna start off with "i told you so" because i did.

then i'm going to mention again that you need to check your attitude.

then i'm going to offer to help. it seems like you have a decent amount of people lending you a helping hand so i would suggest you compile a list of what exactly you need and make it easy for those willing to help. i have a box full of used parts that came out of my q recently and i haven't gone through it yet to see whats what and whats usable, but if you put forth the effort i'll see what i can do.

[unknown007]

Replaced my thermostat earlier in the morning and bought the piece for the coolant I needed.Only problem I'm having is the knock sensors.Like I said before I'm trying to sell my cousins BMW and use that for the knocks.BlackonBlack you may have told me but still not gonna say your right.You maybe have told me so but doesn't mean I'm gonna give up feel me?Let's put it this way in fitting rims into the car or getting right camber.

You buy rims aggressive better say.Jump on VSC and post you need help this and that.People will say it's impossible or they'll say you can't do it.But to you in the mind you know there is and will not give up.Dunno if it makes sense but I hope it atleast says where I'm comping from when you say I told you so.It'll just goes through one ear out the other unless it's useful information.There's things here I've learned that my teacher never knew until I told him. Thanks Nico members.

But yeah I maybe need parts and would come handy but right now since I haven't really got things together to where I can tell if I'm missing more I can't say.I'm impressed on how your car looks and is running though congrats wish I had that deep pocket budget. But since I don't can't blame me feel me?

Let's all just get along. Well right now I'm gonna clean all my injectors and put them on the rails since i got new O-rings.

edit:BlackonBlack not trying to saying anything or start anything again but you can know my attitude through the internet let's be real.Well I'll shoot you an email when I find what parts I need.

[qship96]

You seriously need to be evaluated and treated for ADHD. Life will become much easier for you.

[Infinitiguy19]

Now now, he barely has any money, his parents are against this and all he wants is to fix his car, I think you all should ease up on him or not post at all if you don't have anything useful to post.

But he only needs one hose and two knock sensors and then he can put his car back together.

When he is done and has a running car I know you all will have heart attacks.

[unknown007]

I do happen to have ADHD and that's what keeps me going thanks. I've taken those pills before just gets me happy and want more.So there's no cure it's on in the mind. Life is easy for me if it was terrible I'd be in a wheel chair so lets just thank god I'm not and enjoy life.

[maxnix]

But he only needs one hose and two knock sensors and then he can put his car back together.

Man, he's been sharing what he's been smoking with you.

There's a ton of stuff to replace unless you want to be back in there again with a new gasket set.

If he commits to doing the job, doing it right in a convincing manner, I'll donate the ones I just took off my 1995 with 110K. They tested and look perfect except you can tell they have been installed.

Let's see a plan.