Ramonesfreak2010's 240sx **LOTS of pics**

[White Comet]

I was only joking Actually, the SR wasn't brought to america because of smog and all that other s*** But thats all beside the point. The SR is still a suck-a** motor, KA FOR LIFE

they could have easily installed emissions like any other engien that comes from japan. my sr will be at the 400whp mark for cheaper then a proper ka-t setup

[Doya]

Nice. How much did everything cost you?

So far about $650. That includes the turbo, manifold, wastegate, FMIC, FMU, and other miscellanious things. The only other thing I need is a downpipe. A friend of mine is going to make me one for about $50. So if you do the math, ( $650+$50) All together it should run me about $700. Plus I have a top secret, no turbo lag weapon can anyone guess

[Doya]

they could have easily installed emissions like any other engien that comes from japan. my sr will be at the 400whp mark for cheaper then a proper ka-t setup

Sorry, but you wrong How much does the average Sr swap cost about $3500, plus, if your talking about reaching the 400hp mark, you must have spent quite a bit more in upgrade. So for that much, you could have a fully built, forged, ka-t, with way for than 400hp. Now, if you don't mind, I'm going to because I too much

[White Comet]

Sorry, but you wrong How much does the average Sr swap cost about $3500, plus, if your talking about reaching the 400hp mark, you must have spent quite a bit more in upgrade. So for that much, you could have a fully built, forged, ka-t, with way for than 400hp. Now, if you don't mind, I'm going to because I too much

my good friend did his sr swap for well under 3500. the sr motor trans, ecu, wiring etc was $1950 shipped to him then he got an ic and piping and bov. i gave him a hallman manual boost controller for free or relaly cheap (can't remember wich one)i think his total was under 2500 but i'm not sure.

as far as my set up, the engine was in my last s13 so its hard to estimate the cost of my motorset. but besides that here's my setup with pricing.

gt30- $350avcr- $300ssqv- $250manifold- $300tial 38mm wg- $120wg dump tube- $20ic piping- $15intake piping- $30couplers and tbolt clamps- $80k&n filter- 35act heavy duty clutch kit- $400nismo fpr- $140

i still need injectors and a tune. the tune will be $500 from import intelligence. injectors will be whatever i find em for so the total without injectors is $2540. to build a ka to do that would require most of the same plus built internals. theres only so much boost an old truck motor can handle with stock internals. i have no disrespect for well built ka-ts but too many ppl think you can just throw a turbo on a ka and its better cuz it's less then an sr. but an sr can just turn up the boost to beat the cheaply turbo'd ka. where a ka with an inexpensive turbo setup has a lower boost ceiling

[Doya]

So you spent roughly $3000 in upgrades, plus how ever much your motorset was, and you mean to tell me you can't build a forged ka-t for that much

[Ramonesfreak2010]

WC has a point.

It'll cost just as much buying a SR if you build a KA. Then you have to buy the turbo parts, which will cost more money. I'm talking about buying quality parts, not eBay. I don't plan to cheap out on my car. Imo, SR is cheaper than a (fully built) KA. But it all depends what you buy.

Anyone want to buy my KA? $200 and its yours. lol

[White Comet]

So you spent roughly $3000 in upgrades, plus how ever much your motorset was, and you mean to tell me you can't build a forged ka-t for that much

not the point i'm trying to make, i was just breaking down my setup. heres what i'm talking about as far as comparing ka-ts to srs

a very common "cheap" setup that i often see is someone takes a stock 125XXX plus mileage engine picks up a t25 (or t28), gets a cheap manifold, ebay fmic, a bov and manual boost controller. on most of these setups i see tuning done by an fmu. they generally run fine and make good power for what they are, but with that setup you can't crank the boost too high. a stock sr will be able to boost more then an internally stock ka-t. this setup is good for making mild turbo power and retaining nice torque numbers. if this setup becomes inadequate and you desire more power, a full rebuild with better internals is needed to get you there. with an sr you can get the extra power with ras for safety and turning up the boost. i've seen a stock t25 with fmic, bov, boost controller and a tune put down 180whp on a dyno. an internally stock ka with turbo and bolt ons will not do that.

to achieve higher hp the sr can take you pretty far on stock internals. i still maintain that a 400hp sr can be done cheaper then a fully built ka but i'm no expert. regardless, you either need to spend the money in the beginning and get an sr, or you'll be spending it a little later when a cheap bolt on turbo setup becomes insufficient for you

[S14Juggalo]

WC has a point.

It'll cost just as much buying a SR if you build a KA. Then you have to buy the turbo parts, which will cost more money. I'm talking about buying quality parts, not eBay. I don't plan to cheap out on my car. Imo, SR is cheaper than a (fully built) KA. But it all depends what you buy.

Anyone want to buy my KA? $200 and its yours. lol

How much shipped to 45414? Is it the DE or E?

Im with 95ka24de_zenki Im pro KA-T! I need another KA so I can Build it up and still have a DD.

Great job on the s13 thus far bro!

[Doya]

I am against the small T25, and T28 turbo. Thats why I'm using a T4 top mount, a turbo that can handle higher HP #. What do you mean a stock KA motor with a turbo won't dyno over 180hp There are so many people using the same setup I have and reaching 225-250hp, with lots of room for upgrading. Look, I don't want to keep on arguing back in forth. It's clear that we both have our own opinions. I don't want you to think I have anything against you, I just don't like the SR

[Ghast]

I am against the small T25, and T28 turbo. Thats why I'm using a T4 top mount, a turbo that can handle higher HP #. What do you mean a stock KA motor with a turbo won't dyno over 180hp There are so many people using the same setup I have and reaching 225-250hp, with lots of room for upgrading. Look, I don't want to keep on arguing back in forth. It's clear that we both have our own opinions. I don't want you to think I have anything against you, I just don't like the SR

Via itouch waiting 4 class to start...

Ghast thinks sr is good enough for pros it is good enough for him

[SolaraOnBronze]

Wow, way to trash the kid's thread with more KA-T/SR banter. :lol:

OP: Welcome, car looks good! I wish I had a paint hookup like that...

[Ramonesfreak2010]

How much shipped to 45414? Is it the DE or E?

Im with 95ka24de_zenki Im pro KA-T! I need another KA so I can Build it up and still have a DD.

Great job on the s13 thus far bro!

Its a DE. Idk how much shipping would be. I'd have to look into that. I'll let your know.

Wow, way to trash the kid's thread with more KA-T/SR banter. :lol:

OP: Welcome, car looks good! I wish I had a paint hookup like that...

Thanks man. I have pictures of your car saved on my computer so I have an idea what I want my car to look like. I even have your wheel and tire specs saved on MS Word. lmao

But about the SR/KA debate, I don't mind. It brings my thread to the top.

[slidestyle69]

not the point i'm trying to make, i was just breaking down my setup. heres what i'm talking about as far as comparing ka-ts to srs

a very common "cheap" setup that i often see is someone takes a stock 125XXX plus mileage engine picks up a t25 (or t28), gets a cheap manifold, ebay fmic, a bov and manual boost controller. on most of these setups i see tuning done by an fmu. they generally run fine and make good power for what they are, but with that setup you can't crank the boost too high. a stock sr will be able to boost more then an internally stock ka-t. this setup is good for making mild turbo power and retaining nice torque numbers. if this setup becomes inadequate and you desire more power, a full rebuild with better internals is needed to get you there. with an sr you can get the extra power with ras for safety and turning up the boost. i've seen a stock t25 with fmic, bov, boost controller and a tune put down 180whp on a dyno. an internally stock ka with turbo and bolt ons will not do that.

to achieve higher hp the sr can take you pretty far on stock internals. i still maintain that a 400hp sr can be done cheaper then a fully built ka but i'm no expert. regardless, you either need to spend the money in the beginning and get an sr, or you'll be spending it a little later when a cheap bolt on turbo setup becomes insufficient for you

How do you figure that a sr can be boosted higher than a ka??

as sr doesnt have forged internals and neither does a ka.

Ive seen a stock bottom end ka do 350, all day long sir, and also have a friend that moved to texas for UTI and he put together a ka that made a little over 400hp on the stock bottem end.

Its all about the previous wear on the motor and the tune...

[Doya]

Yeah, sorry about that. I might have gotten a bit carried away. Good luck with whatever route you decide to take

[White Comet]

i did as well, i have counter points so what was mentioned in the last few posts but i'll keep it to myself

[Ramonesfreak2010]

Its all good. Right now it looks like I'm going SR. I'm trying to get a hold of Nick from Elite JDM so I can visit the warehouse and possibly buy a SR this Saturday.

[Doya]

Its all good. Right now it looks like I'm going SR. I'm trying to get a hold of Nick from Elite JDM so I can visit the warehouse and possibly buy a SR this Saturday.

What place are you getting it from. Is it in Maryland? I've been wanting to get a RB25 for my hatch, but I wanted to get it somewhere local. Ordering something like that online, always made me a bit uneasy

[Ramonesfreak2010]

Its in Philly, just a couple hours away from here.

[Ramonesfreak2010]

I finally have an update... lol

I got paid yesterday and went straight to the bank to pull out my money. I went up to Elitejdm and got me a SR. I paid $2900. That includes everything you would get in a regular swap plus the radiator, intake, intercooler, fan shroud, downpipe, and the radiator support since mine is rusted. He started the engine up for me and at idle, it sounds orgasmic. lol Here are some pics... Will have more when I get the engine off the truck.



I plan to run the engine stock until spring. Thats why I bought it with everything needed for the swap.

Modified by Ramonesfreak2010 at 3:43 PM 10/10/2009
Modified by Ramonesfreak2010 at 8:41 AM 10/13/2009

[mRodiek]

$3k?!?! Holy crap...I paid $2,100 for mine and got everything you did except the rad support, downpipe, & radiator...

[Ramonesfreak2010]

Yea I know thats expensive. I could have bought an engine from somewhere else but I have peace of mind now. I don't have to worry whether the engine will run good or bad.

[MastaYu]

gotta love the wad of money Build is looking good

[Ramonesfreak2010]

^Thanks man. Yours is too. It sucks how it can take sooo long to save up some money and only seconds for it to be gone. lol

[MastaYu]

^ for sure

[TroubleBound]

^Thanks man. Yours is too. It sucks how it can take sooo long to save up some money and only seconds for it to be gone. lol

Haha QFT! Ive been saving for years and i NEVER have money lol.I like what you're doing with the car chuki hatch ftw!Not a big fan of red cars but you can't argue with a free paint job nice hook up =) Hope the SR swap goes well for you i'll have to check back in as i'm in the process of installing mine as well.Plans sound pretty solid i can't wait to see the finished product man keep up the good work! I like stopping by build threads where the op knows how to punctuate and use grammar. East coast represent!

[Ramonesfreak2010]

^Let me have some of your parts. haha The only thing that is getting in my way right now is prepping the engine bay. I'm just waiting for someone to give me some money that they owe me and use that for paint. Heres a question for everyone: Fidanza aluminum flywheel OR lightweight flywheel?

[Lonismos14]

did a tranyy come with it for 2900 i think you would have came out better rebuilding the ka than getting the sr..when i finish up i will easily be puting down 350whp no repacement like displacement

[ZootedS13]

holy sh** you went from broke as hell to 2900 so quickly.....good luck with the sr swap, ur gonna love it

[Ramonesfreak2010]

did a tranyy come with it for 2900 i think you would have came out better rebuilding the ka than getting the sr..when i finish up i will easily be puting down 350whp no repacement like displacement

lol I don't have the skills to rebuild an engine. I had gotten quotes for labor and it was a bit too much for me.

holy sh** you went from broke as hell to 2900 so quickly.....good luck with the sr swap, ur gonna love it

Thanks

[safin]

S to the fu**ing RRRRRR!!!!