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Just bustin balls... Besides, I need to borrow his helmet for Carlisle so we can both run... lol.


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Um yeah, about that... I am currently scheduled to work 3:30 to 9 on the 9th. Doesn't looks too promising I can get off.

Besides that mega bad news, I'll still be done on time or near on time.Didn't put a pic of the PS line setup up yesterday bc I forgot, so here!

Today I did more than the pic shows under the dash for wiring, but this was at the start of my travels through the steering column area harness! Just to clarify the pic below, I'm wiring up the boost gage illumination to the dimmer switch. Big ups to my wiring expert Keegan for always being on call, thanks mang. BTW use a soldering iron please.

I had to fix a few mickey mouse splices that I wasnt going to use, and I re taped a lot of stuff under there just for kicks because I was in an anal mood. It's always good to be in an anal mood for wiring!

Took my time thinking and figuring out how to mount this, my new solution as opposed to the 3 bolts on my last car:

I love it.

I also LOVE the Knukonceptz wiring!!!!!!!!!11 Seriously guys this stuff is so quality it flexes like a rope made out of hot butter, it's amazing to see and feel I was geeking out. The ground wire is teh old one for the time being, gotta move fast so I'll put the new ground wire on later.

Tis all.

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Coming along nicely....looking good

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Looks good, workin on a pretty big update for my thread-you should check it out any advice on that splitter I asked about?

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hey man. sorry i havent been in this thread yet. its looking good. i am stoked you finally got another 240. next summer i am planning on picking up a 2nd 240 for the woman to have. since i got her to switch over to jap cars lol.

like how its coming along. how long until the motor goes in?

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Thanks to all for the support. I told josh (hbpignose) that if I help one person modify something right or learn something new, then the build thread is totally worthwhile.

I'm planning on dropping the motor in asap actually. Didn't do it today because the cavaliers needed oil changes, and I was so beat physically from wed to saturday all I did was class/car/work/sleep. Needed a break today.

I have to transport it from here to york tomorrow or wed. Only thing I did today was pick up some low pressure PS line and IACV hose lol.

Idaho that's awesome u converted her. All it takes (for me all it was) is one test drive, or even riding with someone with a honda/nissan. My b13 makes the 96cavalier feel like a boat. I don't know how my sister drives that damn thing, I hate it!

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get excite!! that bish will be dropped and ready for carlise if i have somethin to do with it

u gotta tell your rents tho

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DriftBoy07 wrote:Looks good, workin on a pretty big update for my thread-you should check it out any advice on that splitter I asked about?
http://www.knukonceptz.com/pro...NF-12

if you got questions about wiring or supplies, ask me haha. im the guy on call for ilovemyrhs13, whitecomet, didderson, etc...

its a lot faster to ask me, than to have them be a middleman.

buy the item in that link, its exactly what you need. the rating of the fuses depends on what youre hooking up.

im on zilvia as much as im on here, so if you have an account over there, just PM me with questions (im "theslows13" over there) cus id rather PM than clutter someones build thread.

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Thanks Sorry for the t/j didderson...again

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Eh, its alright. Like a cop who knows the suspect through family, I'll let you go with a warning .

Today we begin by prepping for engine and body harness wiring. The condenser box comes out in a jiffy (4 screws randomly placed) for easy access to the firewall and A/C plugs. Will I be taking out the A/C condenser for weight savings? You bet! I estimate it at maybe 2.5lbs. It's aluminum too, so drop it off at the recyclers and get money get paid as Mr. Chicity says.
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Dboy this is what I'm talking about, you tell them you want 2 150A fuses because they bolt on to each individual wire rung for awesomeness.I hooked up the large 1/0gage wire fuse right by the battery nicely, I'll have to snap a pic later.
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Cleaned it with dawn and let it rain on it to rinse. Good old mother nature smell.
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Ran into a small snag because the previous owner of my OLD S13 messed with the ECU dash wiring plug, so it was actually a Dohc plug (or something IDK ask keegan lol). Trying to plug this into my haness didn't work, so we used the old harness plug and just soldered the same color of wires to it for the correct hookup. There are plenty of wires that don't get hooked up because SR motors don't use consult ports (at least I dont hook them up!).
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Funny update pic, the car came with nearly a full tank of 9+month old gasoline. I filled 2.5gal into it when it ran, but I drained at least 7 gallons today so that I can fill it with something less shistey. Guess what car got the free mediocre gasoline! LOL Nascar style fill up, extremely full! Because I took the SAFC off the sentra today it's running back to normal OE settings so this gas won't be a problem, didn't notice a difference. (only used 3.5 gal anyway)
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gauge block/wire splitter installed. I'm waiting to cut the main 1/0g wire until the motor is in and I know how far up the footwell to mount it.Ecu wires are a bit hacked but I assure you they're soldered and taped just fine. The SAFC wiring and multiple dash plugs created this. I should tape those random cut wires coming off the ECU pins, they aren't used anymore and should be kept neatly out of the way.
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So yea, for uninstalling the SAFC from the Sentra to installing it and the whole engine harness, plus the other random jobs I did, I'd say it was a damn good 4.5 hours.
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I see what your saying..I think lol but it looks like your running the 1g wire to the fuse box in the bay..or am I mistaken?

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Yeah, I'm running the 0gage to that gage block which will sit beneath the ecu, and it splits into two 4 gage wires. one goes to the starter power, and one splits into the accessories/fuse harness.

I don't know why I rate the updates, but this is a good/worthwhile one!

I went looking for a muffler mount (because this car has a custom tip for a muffler , and I saw this: Don't hit any poles soon guys, it looked like this one was tough to walk away from lol. No blood though.

Anyway, back to the build. SR20det's fit inside grand caravans so nicely, it's like they were made to carry motorsets! I should have noted the van ride height as it definitely was lowered in the rear lol. I took the exhaust, engine hoist, trans and engine in one sweep.

Arriving at Josh's garage. Keep in mind I'm blocking a 1.5 lane alley way lol. I got lucky and didn't have anyone who wanted to drive through. The wooden hump at the garage door makes it extremely hard to move the motor around on the lift without skipping the door molding alltogether, so I backed the van in so far the lift didn't have to clear the wood. Just a side note;The garage was built in the 1930s sometime, thus the old school building code and the numerous dates of oil changes written on the wall date back to 1943 as far as I can see. Pretty neat history in here, and we're creating more!

I promise you guys I jacked up the frame and I would have dropped the SR and trans in in one motion but a dowel pin is on my 'new' SR bellhousing, and there is also a dowel pin in the same hole area on my SR engine block. One of them had to go and it was so noisy I only got done drilling the dowel inside the trans housing halfway. I'll finish tomorrow and start hooking everything back up.

That's all the pics I have. Gnite!

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nice update and +1 for josh's antique garage, i particularly like the doors. maybe its late but i have no idea what dowel pins you're talking about

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Why on earth would you drill a dowel pin? Dowel pins are tapered, you should've just pulled it out. I have had to drill out dowels before if they've broke, but if you can get a pair of vise grips on them you should be able to get them out.

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I don't think you understand. There are 2 dowel pins in the same hole. One on the engine side where it should be, and one from the previous SR trans bell housing owner, thus the transmission will not go together because these dowels are both trying to go into a hole so one of them needs to be removed.

Yeah dude, I'll have to take pics. This pin must have been hammered in there. Thanks to the taper, I couldn't get a vice grip on it. I could get a vice grip on the one in the engine block, but it didn't want to cooperate easily so in fear of thrashing it to hell with the vice grip I just started to go at the dowel that wasn't in the correct area. It's supposed to stay in the engine block like mine does.
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Oh nice. I work alot with dowel pins for alignment of pump cases, and they can be a b****. Ive had them get bent/broken and have had to drill them out. Thank God they dont use hardened roll pins, They are near impossible to drill with a high speed drill.

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my garage WAS nice before the datsun, i cant blame the mess totally on tom lol i contributed alot to it

i love the doors, but i need planks to get over the hump in the 240; idk what id do with coils lol


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I was surprised at how fast (even though i wish it was faster) they drilled out. I almost expected it not to drill out. Nice to have a USW lookin out!

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Don't know how much longer I'll be in the steel workers union, couple of us are still laid off. I'm trying to get my CDL now. Yeah I dont think dowels are hardened so any decently sharp drill bit should cut it.

On to the topic, looks like progress is comming along quite nicely, excited to have a running 240 again?

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Definitely excited. I'm probably more excited to hear the turbo spool and shift some gears again. Later on this summer I'll be going with a turbo dump pipe lol.

I'm really itching to get out to the local weekly sonic meets and I can't wait for june 7th S chassis in philly. Too bad I won't be making carlisle, but it just gives me more time to make sure things go smoothly.

speaking of smoothly, I drilled out the dowel. Left a bit of a more ovular hole, but no matter.

For quite some time today I helped josh til about 3 with his car so he could get it aligned for carlisle. We actually made the deadline but didn't have time to put the anti roll bar in lol. This won't affect alignment obviously, so he'll have it in by carlisle. Also we had to swap the SPL rucas as they were on the wrong side and were angled incorrectly. Here's a pic of the spl ruca installed correctly:

I probably said it before but I'll say it again, the floor in this garage is crumbling and has pot holes making it extremely hard to install a motor with a shop crane, but thanks to a 6ft two by four and the jack cheater bar, i slid the crane into position sideways (wheels only go forward and back) with the motor in the air Pics of the install:



The seed is planted.

I have a surprise treat for... myself, but I'll unveil it to you! I 'borrowed' josh's steering rack poly bushings until I buy my set and give him the ones that come in mine lol. It was just the insane ease of install that prompted me to ask him. Thanks HB/josh! Obviously this took place just before the SR went in.

Can't wait to replace the outer tie rod ends and feel massively tight steering!
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You got some good progress going on. Great that you got your engine in!

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Yea man, build is beginning to see an end in sight. Only 3 pics today because I just installed little bits of things like rad and mocked up FMIC after the last pic because I had to work (in lancaster like 1hr away with daytime traffic) at 4pm.

Arrived after my last class of the semester at 10 am.

I fit the lower intake manifold on, ran the wires tucked and the BOV vac line. Used new hardware where necessary for the midas touch.

I then mocked up IC piping and cut the fender well area for it. Not perfect at the corners, but how perfect did I expect with a 4" cutting wheel lol. The quality of these holes is far above the last car which I cut out with tons of dremel bits and shears. This was so fast and easy, I just put the fender cover over the engine and bay to not get sparks on the important stuff.

Other side: You may notice the IC piping kit came with the rubber lining to put around the cut holes. Very nice!

Piping mocked up. I then took the TB pipe off for BOV flange weld now that I know the placement I want.

I keep forgetting to bring the rear seal for the trans with me to york lol. I will remember tomorrow so I can buy gear oil. Engine oil will also go in tomorrow just to help it not be so dry in there. I hope to have it home by thursday next week because my brother won't be home for the whole summer basically and I want to show him the new car .Going with royal purple max gear 75W-90 for the LSD and trans gearbox. I have had success with it in the past so I will stick to it.

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Looks good man, Its going really fast! Also just want to ask are you going to put on ur old 513 rims on ur car or was the right one bent from the accident?

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I used the royal purple in my trans and it's a little thinner since its synthetic and I had to replace my rear trans seal, its all good though.

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What kind/brand oil are you going with? Your just barely ahead of me right now lol not a fair race because you have done this before

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I'm going with the royal purple max gear oil for the trans, and I might try something different for the differential this time around. Any suggestions?

lol yeah man it's kinda not fair, but as you can see i have a few new tricks up my sleeve.

Today before I headed off to work I went to york to work on the 40. In general I finished the 0g to 4g fuse block, lower wiring harness fixed (the old red wire some may remember was a temp fix i never went back over lol) and the IC permanently mounted.

I mount the ecu upside down. There is only 1 bolt hole that works and for those of you who need to know it is on the bottom right in this pic. I still used a wire to ground it so technically it is grounded at 2 locations.

Just a side note, based on what we learned in physics 2 this past semester I can prove the necessity of grounding your ecu casing. Grounding it creates a type of electrostatic charge which helps deflect magnetic interference and possibly damaging interaction. The ecu is right beside the passenger door speaker so yeah...

IC mounted. You may notice i uninstalled the pipe that connects to the tb and possibly in this pic the hot pipe because I need a bov flange and the wastegate actuator bung installed.

Finals on monday and tuesday. I won't have an update until tuesday night because of this. Thankfully wed and thurs I don't work or have school at all so I can pull huge long hour days that should bring me near or to completion.
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Hey I have a question on my thread that I am pretty sure you can answer if you could check it out, it would be highly appreciated! Sorry for the threadjack. Cars looking good man when do you think it will be on the road? And are you going to use ur 513 rims on this 240?

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Didderson wrote:Just a side note, based on what we learned in physics 2 this past semester I can prove the necessity of grounding your ecu casing. Grounding it creates a type of electrostatic charge which helps deflect magnetic interference and possibly damaging interaction. The ecu is right beside the passenger door speaker so yeah...
i don't want to split hairs but grounding the ecu isn't a necessity since it wouldn't run if you didn't and it already grounds itself. more grounds are always good though and in the case on the ka ecu it needs to be bolted down to ground itself or the car won't start, teh sr will start and run without the casing being grounded.

good looking update and i'm anxious to see the pbm goodness go on

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How did you mount your Intercooler?

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DB> ic mounts came with the IC piping kit from cxracing yo. I'm really impressed with their product. I got an unflanged piping kit without an intercooler so i could source my own smaller core one. I will have to take pics of the mounts w a nicer cam. I will also be adding my own mount to the top because the 2 on the bottom are good, but not good enough .

I will be putting the old rims back on. Maybe I will put all of them on I dont know. They're all straight, but 2 have slight rash that I can fix, especially because the lip is not painted alloy, it's machined so I can just sand it down smooth again.

PBM coils and spl braided clutch line on the way. Also I went to autozone today and bought a new clutch slave cylinder. After the braided line gets here i'll be ready to go as far as parts I need.

Yeah jeff I realize i don't need to use that ground wire for it because when i bolt it to the car it gets grounded.

How do you know its not necessary to ground it? Have you opened an ecu up an checked that the circuit board grounds to the casing? I don't think so. Regardless of whether or not the car runs with our without the casing ground, considering the electromagnetic force put out by my battery wiring going right underneath it (B is perpendicular to the electron velocity direction) and the speaker, i'd be asking for problems without it. It's not my opinion either.

It may be a fact that your car can run without ecu ground, but why would u want to take the risk. Sorry I'm not pisst i just dont get u fighting for this. You don't have to justify what you have or have not done in the past on your car in my thread.
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