my two cents (cut springs)

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SupahTyTeTwoFowty_y0 wrote:has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?
lmfao, fellow /b/rother on the forums?


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this whole thread reminds me of a infant crying to be held.

f-ing waaaaahhhh

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Coupe_love wrote:well, nightsauce.. i appreciate your concern.. the rest of you.. learn some people skills.. this is supposed to be a brotherhood.. not a "16yr old i just got my liscense lets go race our mom's cavalier forum"
I am 16 years old, track only thanks haha

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dood about 2 years later and this hasent been locked...

i think cut springs were experimented with in the 1950s and people stopped due to safty reasons. how many shoebox fords and tri five chevys do you still see on the road with cut springs?

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-1 for cut springs 240s really need to stop falling into the wrong hands these days

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if the cut springs are done right they are not dangerous. and dont ride bad either.

i cut the springs in the front on my zenki. it lowered it 2 inches, and i cut about a half inch at a time till i got it right. i used a cut off wheel. after i did it i bolted steel strap around the spring into the seat and top hat to hold it in there. so there was no chance it was going to slide out while i was driving. it was totally safe. i later got a free set of rsr lowering springs and used those. honestly i think i liked the cut ones better. but i gave them to my friend who also cut his springs and did it wrong. his was very dangerous. the springs werent riding in the top hats anymore and were now riding against the strut tower.

just thought i would share my positive experience with "cut springs"

cut springs the RIGHT way FTW

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To OP

Your intelligence is shown not only your complete understanding but how you created a thread on NICO about Ricer Springs.

Also you drive an eclipse.

What is the point in lowering a car? It actually isn't to make it look better like you ricers think, its to improve performance and decrease center of gravity. Cut springs perform worse than oem. Period.

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impact240sx wrote:What is the point in lowering a car? It actually isn't to make it look better like you ricers think, its to improve performance and decrease center of gravity. Cut springs perform worse than oem. Period.
have you tried it? you really cant talk s*** till you have. i was always one to talk s*** about it but now i dont see them being bad unless they are done wrong

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i did mine wrong i wish i would have just left my springs alone because now it rides like a**.. but i just got a coupe and iirc i can swap those stockers while i save up for some s techs ( yeah im cheap..so what)

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anyone in the central fla area wanna ride in my car you can see how "unsafe" and "bad" cut springs rides....

just FYI ive never seen lowering springs that arent physically shorter than oem springs......
Modified by TheRealNap0le0n at 6:08 PM 3/20/2010

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i cant believe this go brought back from the dead...AGAIN

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I ride on cut springs....actually, they were on the car when I traded my totaled S14 for it. They suck, a lot. I hate it, the s*** sucks. So guy who wants to be Billy Badass on this forum, shut that s*** up, cut springs suck period. My coil overs are coming in soon, and when I get them, you can have that cut spring crap seeing as you want to be stupid enough to do it. And for what? So your car will be lowered? No? Then why put yourself at risk? Friend of mine died because he cut his springs on his 240, springs eventually broke and bam, slid into another car, then into a pole. So yeah, like I said, shut that s*** up.

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Brent.S14 wrote:I ride on cut springs....actually, they were on the car when I traded my totaled S14 for it. They suck, a lot. I hate it, the s*** sucks. So guy who wants to be Billy Badass on this forum, shut that s*** up, cut springs suck period. My coil overs are coming in soon, and when I get them, you can have that cut spring crap seeing as you want to be stupid enough to do it. And for what? So your car will be lowered? No? Then why put yourself at risk? Friend of mine died because he cut his springs on his 240, springs eventually broke and bam, slid into another car, then into a pole. So yeah, like I said, shut that s*** up.
dont talk to my n***a like that! you need to watch it NOOB. be respectful

i got your back J14cm7

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I know he wasnt talking to me all i said that this is a pointless thread. Im jsut trying to utilize all the wierd face thingies since i was bored and i cant figure out why my s*** wont reach full boost.

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The cut stock spring takes only 250lb to bottom out, while the stock spring and lowering spring takes 400lb.

Cut springs do not fit into the spring retainer properly.

Cutting springs to lower a car is an attractive option because it is cheap. It is also easy to get the exact desired ride height by cutting small sections until the ride height is correct. However, it cannot absorb forces from bumps correctly, which lowers ride quality, spoils the handling and causes unnecessary wear on suspension components. Cutting springs will in fact lower a car, but so would flattening the tires.

http://craig.backfire.ca/pages...rings

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TroubleBound wrote:The cut stock spring takes only 250lb to bottom out, while the stock spring and lowering spring takes 400lb.
hmmm think about that one for a sec...... 2800 pound car by 4 springs at 250 each (250x4=1000 obviously) so my car should be sitting on bump stops when it is on cut springs?? its weird cause when i cut my springs i beat the s*** out of it and never bottomed out once. so kind of like the welded rear end dont talk crap till you have actually tried it. thanks for the almost good info though

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TroubleBound wrote:Cut springs do not fit into the spring retainer properly.
this is actually true though. that is why i made a brace to hold the spring in place. and again, its like welding a diff, if you dont have a good weld its dangerous. if you dont brace the spring its dangerous. pretty simple math

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motoman399 wrote:
hmmm think about that one for a sec...... 2800 pound car by 4 springs at 250 each (250x4=1000 obviously) so my car should be sitting on bump stops when it is on cut springs?? its weird cause when i cut my springs i beat the s*** out of it and never bottomed out once. so kind of like the welded rear end dont talk crap till you have actually tried it. thanks for the almost good info though
Lol i was citing another website for people that aren't to cheap to sacrifice safety smartass. That was the bottom out weight of the SPRING, not the spring/shock assembly. Using your mind boggling complicated math we can figure that 250x4 DOES equal 1000, imagine that, less than 2800 lbs, stock weight. So the stock ones and lowering springs are 400 lbs each right? What is 400x4? 1600 hmmm That STILL seems to be lower than 2800 lbs, the stock weight. SURELY this MUST mean that the car bottoms out from the factory am i right motoman am i right? Har Har Har I don't really care either way i have PBM coils i was just trying to warn the people that aren't to stubborn to use unsafe parts to save money.

Maybe there hasn't been an accident due to cut springs yet. Maybe yours will be the first. All we can do is hope.

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motoman399 wrote: thanks for the almost good info though

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TroubleBound wrote: Lol i was citing another website for people that aren't to cheap to sacrifice safety smartass. That was the bottom out weight of the SPRING, not the spring/shock assembly. Using your mind boggling complicated math we can figure that 250x4 DOES equal 1000, imagine that, less than 2800 lbs, stock weight. So the stock ones and lowering springs are 400 lbs each right? What is 400x4? 1600 hmmm That STILL seems to be lower than 2800 lbs, the stock weight. SURELY this MUST mean that the car bottoms out from the factory am i right motoman am i right? Har Har Har I don't really care either way i have PBM coils i was just trying to warn the people that aren't to stubborn to use unsafe parts to save money.

Maybe there hasn't been an accident due to cut springs yet. Maybe yours will be the first. All we can do is hope.
hmmm your gey. and once again you havent tried it. so stfu with your guesses about how they ride and how "safe" they are.

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riding on cut springs to me is like driving drunk you know its dangerous but you still do it anyways.

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motoman399 wrote:
hmmm your gey. and once again you havent tried it. so stfu with your guesses about how they ride and how "safe" they are.
Word word thats a much better admission of failure.

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cool beans dude

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motoman399 wrote:
have you tried it? you really cant talk s*** till you have. i was always one to talk s*** about it but now i dont see them being bad unless they are done wrong
Of course I've tried it, on two of my s13's a friends neon, and another friends teggy. I wouldn't be talking crap unless i did. I have stance gr+pros....

coilovers>cut springsRide qualityPerformanceSafetyAdjustabllity

I don't know why you'er running around this thread thinkin you'er a real captain bad a** with you're "CORRECTLY" cut springs. I don't care how you cut them its still a cheap, crappy, and unsafe way to turn your car into a high performance automobile....

Oh since you're the cut spring master, wanna help me rice... oops i mean turn my 350 Z into a race car and cut the springs??

YOU SIR = Low Budget

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Dear Mods,

PLEASE LOCK THIS THREAD.

Sincerely,

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J14cm7 wrote:Dear Mods,

PLEASE LOCK THIS THREAD.

Sincerely,
I agree before some more newb get any more ideas on how to trash more s-chassis.

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Ok coming from someone that has had cut springs... THEY SUCK MONKEY BALLS. Sure the car sits low but thats it. there is zero performance from cuts springs. Every little bump that I would hit would make me move so much that I would have to try to find my clutch to get to the next gear. This was at 30-40mph. See my friend what "YOU" don't understand that there is a reason why people would rather shell out 1k+ for full suspension. Because CUT SPRINGS ARE FCUKING STUPID!

I cut my springs the same week I got my car in 03'. What can I say I was a know it all noob at that time. I lasted 2 weeks then went with stock shocks with tein spring until I could save enough money for my Cusco suspension. Why did I go with that setup??? Because I went over a bump and the car threw me around so hard that I almost lost controll of the car going northbound on I95 in the rain while I was only doing 60mph. Thank god it was 11pm and 95 wasn't gridlocked like in the afternoon

With you're attitude im sure that you will hit someone when you lose control of your car. You seem like a semi smart guy. Stop thinking that just because you have been lucky enough to not have a problem with this stupid downgrade that everyone has been as lucky.

End of rant
Modified by Riq at 8:25 PM 3/19/2010

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impact240sx wrote:I have stance gr+pros....coilovers>cut springsRide qualityPerformanceSafetyAdjustabllity
well no s*** coilovers are better. nobody said that cut springs were superior to anything except stock. so gtfo
impact240sx wrote:YOU SIR = Low Budget


yes i am "low budget" for instance i build a turbo kit rather that buy one. you probably take your sweet hella fast eclipse to a shop. haha oh ps im jewish and proud of it. i make most of the s*** for my car. and do ALL the work on my car

JEWISH FTW

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I say let him learn the hard way

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umm ya i now have REAL DEAL LOWERING SPRINGS. i was just stating that if done right they arent as bad as people say. thats all.


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