ka-t pwnage in CA...FML

[Metal Angel]

my dad got that for me, so idk where to find that...look for "terminal blocks" though, you should find something very similar.

and yeah that red plastic thing is stock, try the dealership if you need one.

idk bout a ticket but they can pull you over and pop your hood for just having "modified exhaust"...it's such BS cuz a different style exhaust tip has no affect on emmissions but you get treated like you are a hardcore street racer.

BS that a honda with nothing but a fart can gets pulled over and ends up late to work but for you I guess it turned out fair. Cop had a hunch and he was right. lol. Not that I think Cali's laws are good, but jeez move somewhere else!

[SirSilvia]

I'd just pay someone to get me passed instead of actually swapping it back to stock.

if they contend it, seeing how its clearly not legal, the inspection station faces fines and loss of inspection license

ca = lol

sucks man, move. cali is the best place to visit, the worst place to live.

granted its not like everyone with a modded car is gettign pulled over, but I'd rather pay a shipping fee to get the stuff I want and never have to worry about the 5/0

[GODCHSR]

So what was the ticket specifically for... cat? Muffler?

It just seems so 'interpretive' that you could get a ticket for something 'modified'... I mean a Cop isn't a mechanic and a cop isn't an environmental technician either... so how would they know what's legal or modified?

[carps13guy]

Sucks man.

Fnny thing, saw pictures of a Cefiro on the streets in the bay area.

Post up how it will affect your record also...

about 2years ago i went to a d1 event @ irwindale, there was a guy with a straight piped cefiro that lived in so cal. if he can get away with driving a car that was never sold in the us market, you should be able to get away with a stock motor & a turbo uprgrade. i love cali, but it leaves a bitter taste in my mouth some times

[carps13guy]

i knew i had a pic of it somewhere, i watched it drive in. this was before i even knew what the hell a cefiro was lol

[spooled240]

^haha that's bad azz

like i said it's not that bad, I daily drove my boosted 240 around for 2 and a half years without ANY problems and i got caught at a shady ricer spot with a bunch of cops cracking down on racing and stuff. If I never even drove through that spot I probably would've been fine for another 2 years.

The power difference is ridiculously slower but daily driving under 3K rpms feels somewhat the same except for the fact that I can't scare pedestrians or agitate slow hondas with my BOV lol My car passed the ref inspection today so that was a plus, althought it did end up throwing a CEL right after the inspection so I lucked out big time on that one

[xX RB Xx]

^haha that's bad azz

yes it is.. i want one before i die.

[spooled240]

Did you keep the injectors/tune?

And yeah, how do you like the power difference?

yeah everything is just chillin in boxes or in my garage.

BS that a honda with nothing but a fart can gets pulled over and ends up late to work but for you I guess it turned out fair. Cop had a hunch and he was right. lol. Not that I think Cali's laws are good, but jeez move somewhere else!

well that's the thing, a lot of these honda guys run a straight pipe at this ricer meet and I get pulled over for having a modified exhaust while coasting in nuetral to a stop light with my blinker on. I'm not saying that getting a ticket for my ka-t is BS but pulling people over with quiet a** but shiny exhaust is BS. If I went to pep boys and got an aftermarket stock replacement exhaust tip that would be "modified" exhaust also?

So what was the ticket specifically for... cat? Muffler?

It just seems so 'interpretive' that you could get a ticket for something 'modified'... I mean a Cop isn't a mechanic and a cop isn't an environmental technician either... so how would they know what's legal or modified?

under hood emmissions. he didn't cite me for exhaust, just used that to pull me over and pop my hood.

[Klits562]

i saw a 74 240z on craiglist today with rb25 needs body work i believe other than that im not sure on

[duffman1278]

well that's the thing, a lot of these honda guys run a straight pipe at this ricer meet and I get pulled over for having a modified exhaust while coasting in nuetral to a stop light with my blinker on. I'm not saying that getting a ticket for my ka-t is BS but pulling people over with quiet a** but shiny exhaust is BS. If I went to pep boys and got an aftermarket stock replacement exhaust tip that would be "modified" exhaust also?

Duh!! can't you see why? Alot of those kids just run a stupid piece of crap exhaust and call it a day. They have nothing in the their engine bays except maybe an intake. So the cop was probably like "what a waist of time, I doubt they can afford a swap if they're riding around with that 50$ china made exhaust.

haha naw but it's all good dude, happens to alot of people. Just another life lesson. Live with it, pay it, move on. Like you said, wrong place, at the wrong time can't do much about it now.

[spooled240]

yep, you just gotta pay to play sometimes. Least I won't set off 10 car alarms in the cal poly parking structure anymore lol

[GODCHSR]

under hood emmissions. he didn't cite me for exhaust, just used that to pull me over and pop my hood.

You mean you were running an open dump off the Wastegate??? ('underhood' emissions?)

[hbpignosePA]

glad you were smart enough to keep your stock stuff.

yea PA is chill lax with that stuff.

most inspection stations (or some if you know where to go) let ALOT slide

and emissions is visual only

plus cops don't know jack about cars.

which is a plus

[GODCHSR]

plus cops don't know jack about cars.

This was my point earlier... What makes a Cop trained in law enforcement a legitimate 'judge' of what is emissions legal?

I mean it's one thing to take a wild guess and say "That car is loud as heck... ticket him" and then let a judge decide but as far as I am concerned this seems like harassment against a particular group of people.

People with a particular auto style should feel free to drive their car without the harrasment of police

[Chris28]

This was my point earlier... What makes a Cop trained in law enforcement a legitimate 'judge' of what is emissions legal?

I mean it's one thing to take a wild guess and say "That car is loud as heck... ticket him" and then let a judge decide but as far as I am concerned this seems like harassment against a particular group of people.

People with a particular auto style should feel free to drive their car without the harrasment of police

CHP is trained to know what is modified and what isn't. They know the difference between a KA and an SR, and I'm sure they know what a turbo is.

[steve s14]

Did you get the car inspected yet? If so, how much did you end up paying for the ticket?I have a ka-t also and haven't got a ref ticket yet but I'm guessing my day's are numbered.What I'm not clear on is how a ref ticket works. Is it correctable offense and if it is, how much is it if you correct it.

I've heard from someone that it isn't, but the guy had an RB in his car.If you have to pay the same bail amount whether or not you correct it, then I don't see the point in fixing it. I would keep it the way it is and just pay the fine.

[spooled240]

You mean you were running an open dump off the Wastegate??? ('underhood' emissions?)

no underhood emissions as in having all the smog controls hooked up with all the proper air box assembly and hoses. I had to hook up my EGR and basically install my stock intake for the underhood emissions.

This was my point earlier... What makes a Cop trained in law enforcement a legitimate 'judge' of what is emissions legal?

I mean it's one thing to take a wild guess and say "That car is loud as heck... ticket him" and then let a judge decide but as far as I am concerned this seems like harassment against a particular group of people.

People with a particular auto style should feel free to drive their car without the harrasment of police

yeah i don't really know man. My buddy has a bone stock STI with an apex'i cat back which was still quiet and he got pulled over and got a ticket. I think it's just profiling, cops see a big shiny exhaust and they just assume that the car is illegally modified. I searched around the vehicle code regulations for CA and they said that modifying the exhaust that makes the car really loud or interferes with the emmissions(like deleting a cat) is illegal. So I'm guessing an apex'i cat back or axle back would be legal as long as it's not loud

Did you get the car inspected yet? If so, how much did you end up paying for the ticket?I have a ka-t also and haven't got a ref ticket yet but I'm guessing my day's are numbered.What I'm not clear on is how a ref ticket works. Is it correctable offense and if it is, how much is it if you correct it.

I've heard from someone that it isn't, but the guy had an RB in his car.If you have to pay the same bail amount whether or not you correct it, then I don't see the point in fixing it. I would keep it the way it is and just pay the fine.

yep i got the car inspected yesterday. It was basically a smog check. They put my car on the dyno and checked the emmissions and all that. I don't know how a ref ticket works either, I've heard of some people including friends of mine that just payed the fine and never bothered with the state ref. I asked the guy at the ref station and he didn't know if I still had to pay the fine at court lol

[duffman1278]

Wait a minute. I think I've seen your car at Cal Poly. There's a red S14 I've seen park at school that's boosted. Pretty neat! if it is you

[kornaz]

no underhood emissions as in having all the smog controls hooked up with all the proper air box assembly and hoses. I had to hook up my EGR and basically install my stock intake for the underhood emissions.

yeah i don't really know man. My buddy has a bone stock STI with an apex'i cat back which was still quiet and he got pulled over and got a ticket. I think it's just profiling, cops see a big shiny exhaust and they just assume that the car is illegally modified. I searched around the vehicle code regulations for CA and they said that modifying the exhaust that makes the car really loud or interferes with the emmissions(like deleting a cat) is illegal. So I'm guessing an apex'i cat back or axle back would be legal as long as it's not loud

yep i got the car inspected yesterday. It was basically a smog check. They put my car on the dyno and checked the emmissions and all that. I don't know how a ref ticket works either, I've heard of some people including friends of mine that just payed the fine and never bothered with the state ref. I asked the guy at the ref station and he didn't know if I still had to pay the fine at court lol

If the cop gives you modified exhaust ticket, you gotta go to ref station and have it decibel tested. If it's at or under 95dB, you're good to go. Also you can just pay the ticket off ($300 i believe), BUT if you get popped 2nd time, the ticket will be double. Then 3rd it'll double again, like 300 -> 600 - > 1200 and so on.

[spooled240]

Wait a minute. I think I've seen your car at Cal Poly. There's a red S14 I've seen park at school that's boosted. Pretty neat! if it is you

yeah that's probably me, there's only one other red s14 that i've seen and it's a zenki. As far as I know I'm the only boosted red kouki over there

If the cop gives you modified exhaust ticket, you gotta go to ref station and have it decibel tested. If it's at or under 95dB, you're good to go. Also you can just pay the ticket off ($300 i believe), BUT if you get popped 2nd time, the ticket will be double. Then 3rd it'll double again, like 300 -> 600 - > 1200 and so on.

yeah that makes more sense

[blueballa]

how long do you have to swap out the parts?

ive never gotten pulled over with my sr yett** but if i did..

id gotta do a engine swap..

and i need some time to get it done.

lol.

cuase i heard of 3 days :S

[spooled240]

i got pulled over on the 21st and i have to be at court on Oct. 30th so I had about 2 months to get it done.

[GODCHSR]

CHP is trained to know what is modified and what isn't. They know the difference between a KA and an SR, and I'm sure they know what a turbo is.

So modifying an engine is illegal?

Sounds like a violation of rights.

[alms24sebring]

I see that ur tags expire in 12/09. You should just take it off anyways, get it to pass emissions, and reregister it for 2 yrs. I just got an exhaust ticket but its nowhere close to $300+ its $30 in va + $67 court cost.

[kornaz]

So modifying an engine is illegal?

Sounds like a violation of rights.

Yep. America is far from free country.

[dahveed]

So modifying an engine is illegal?

Sounds like a violation of rights.

whoaa. i don't see where that comes in here...

[240sx_nissan]

CA laws / police are whack.

[Jdmstyles]

Had I read this thread sooner I could've offered some help.

My uncle has a shop and does smog here in the Inland Empire area, and I would've asked him to pass you with ease, and you wouldn't have had to go through the trouble of swapping all the stock parts back.

Anywho Cali isn't that bad as long as you know what you're doing and know what to look out for. It's an honor seeing nice cars all the time. I stayed in Albuquerque New Mexico for a month once and didn't see any imports at all .__.; I was bummed out, and I realized I took the whole cali import scene for granted. There are a lot of nice cars in Socal alone, and I appreciate them all. Once you live here and adapt to everything, you'll learn to like it, and you'll also learn to look pass the whole strict emission laws and all.

[spooled240]

So modifying an engine is illegal?

Sounds like a violation of rights.

yep technically you can't touch your engine AT ALL in CA unless you get a CARB legal parts. But how much hp are you gonna get with a CAI? I wish CA allowed us car enthusiasts to modify our engines for more horsepower as long as the emmissions out the tail pipe are as clean as if the engine was stock. Then you could run 400 hp with a top mount t4 turbo with a FMIC with cats and the EGR hooked up and it would be all legal

I see that ur tags expire in 12/09. You should just take it off anyways, get it to pass emissions, and reregister it for 2 yrs. I just got an exhaust ticket but its nowhere close to $300+ its $30 in va + $67 court cost.

yeah that's the plan. I'm just gonna keep it stock until i get it smogged then MAYBE i'll go back to turbo, but i'm not really feeling safe anymore...all it takes is one cop and it's all over again.

Had I read this thread sooner I could've offered some help.

My uncle has a shop and does smog here in the Inland Empire area, and I would've asked him to pass you with ease, and you wouldn't have had to go through the trouble of swapping all the stock parts back.

Anywho Cali isn't that bad as long as you know what you're doing and know what to look out for. It's an honor seeing nice cars all the time. I stayed in Albuquerque New Mexico for a month once and didn't see any imports at all .__.; I was bummed out, and I realized I took the whole cali import scene for granted. There are a lot of nice cars in Socal alone, and I appreciate them all. Once you live here and adapt to everything, you'll learn to like it, and you'll also learn to look pass the whole strict emission laws and all.

I appreciate the offer bro but my ticket required me to get my car inspected at the state referree, basically a smog check station run my the state just for citations like this. If I could've gone to any smog station my car would still be boosted lol

[sunnys14]

I don't want cops to have any reason to pull me over, thats why I look complete bone stock now, down to the wheels. No kit, no wheels, RSR ex-mag exhaust. That is all.