KA-T Plans, any advice?

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Bumparoo!The end is in sight! Thanks to you guys. I'm almost there in terms of parts. Just thought I'd let you guys know .

I've been wondering what gauges I would need, so far I got Boost and Oil Pressure. I thinking of getting one more but I can't decide between water/oil temp and EGT gauges.

With a EGT I imagine I can see if I'm running the turbo too hard and too hot, but I'm running a basic T2x setup so I'm not sure if I even need a EGT.

For water and oil temp, which one will help me most in terms of making sure I'm not gonna overheat anything?


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I'd say an oil pump. You pretty much already have a water temp gauge in your cluster that will tell you if you are gonna "ka-boom"

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Dont bother with EGT unless you want to get into tuning. Oil temp is kinda nice, but its not really needed unless your going to track the car.

Boost gage/oil pressure are pretty important. IMO get a oil pressure gage that has a warning buzzer on it or its kinda a waste.

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^ true that

wideband, boost, oil pressure gauges will be your friends

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Alright thanks for the advices :D.I got a brand new S15 GT28R and it awesome! All I need now are my gauges, and Walbro pump.
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Woot! Update.My Walbro and inlet/outlet elbows are on the way.Now all I need are my gauges and exhaust and I'm set to begin going KA-T.

I want water cooling lines for my turbo and I was reading 480sx's thread about water cooling. zerothread/300407The fitting part he used was McMaster part #5929K23

Does anyone know if that fits into the S15 GT28R's water section?If not does anyone know what part # it is? Thanks.

Also: Oil fittings. Should I use a special kind of sealant on them? In my garage I have high temp RTV sealant and regular white plumbers tape.
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Boost Logic wrote:Advice..... Dont waste the money. and buy a SR.

plain and simple. the Ka engine is a piece of S.H.I.T
Your advice is taken and multiplied by the amount of rep you have in the 240 world. Since that rep is zero, that means that your advice is worth nothing.

I would go into the reasons why your not only wrong but also a moron, but they will already be clear to anyone who reads this thread and also sees your signature.

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Boost Logic wrote:Advice..... Dont waste the money. and buy a SR.

plain and simple. the Ka engine is a piece of S.H.I.T
You must be a KA guru, thanks for the advice.Idiot.

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Razi if you wanted i could sell you my old McMaster water line hardware. Cheap, its just sitting around doing nothing. Those fittings in stainless are like 30 bucks a piece! Ill let you have them for cheap. When you get your turbo let me know what size the ports are and ill see if it will work.

Also, for your oil ports you want to use teflon paste. The tape will melt and become useless. No RTV.

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Boost Logic wrote:Advice..... Dont waste the money. and buy a SR.

plain and simple. the Ka engine is a piece of S.H.I.T
x2 they can be done up right but to me they are like a single cam non tec civic motor

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When your single cam civic motor can produce torque then we can talk.

Its funny that the two kids who are talking smack about the Ka dont even own a 240. JDM hype fanboi much?

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Sweet, do you just want the diameter of the water line port?I have already have my new turbo, a S15 GT28R I'm not sure if you know the size for those.

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Boost Logic wrote:Advice..... Dont waste the money. and buy a SR.

plain and simple. the Ka engine is a piece of S.H.I.T
To do list:1) STFU and do some research so you can make an educated opinion.2) stop worshipping the SR and lose the jdm fanboi status3) GTFO and drive off in your torqueless 1.8L FWD wheel-hopping, torque-steering VW
240sxdriftSRT-4 wrote:
x2 they can be done up right but to me they are like a single cam non tec civic motor
newsflash: the ka and the srt-4 engine are very similar in design except the ka has a larger bore and shorter stroke with a higher redline.

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Yea razi just mic the inside diameter. Im pretty sure what i have should work but im not 100 percent. My fittings would only work if you wanted hardlines run, i could lend you the tube bender and you could send it back when your done.

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Since the topic was mentioned earlier in the thread, I have a question/statement about the egr stuff. I was under the impression that since it is all mechanical (run by vacuum and such) that it won't throw a code because there are no sensors back there. This might be different for OBDII motors, but when reading fiznat's write-up he didn't mention anything, and I've read a few places that it shouldn't throw any codes.

Razi I'm in just about the same place in my build as you are, the last of the parts should be here by the end of this week. I wish I had the funds for a t28 haha, all I have a little t25

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480sx wrote:When your single cam civic motor can produce torque then we can talk.

Its funny that the two kids who are talking smack about the Ka dont even own a 240. JDM hype fanboi much?
just my personal opinion, ka ftl, and sr ftw.

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spooled240 wrote:
To do list:1) STFU and do some research so you can make an educated opinion.2) stop worshipping the SR and lose the jdm fanboi status3) GTFO and drive off in your torqueless 1.8L FWD wheel-hopping, torque-steering VW

newsflash: the ka and the srt-4 engine are very similar in design except the ka has a larger bore and shorter stroke with a higher redline.
its a VR6 koon no 1.8 insight

i can respect that about the ka but just me if i were to decide what to do to the engine of a 240 id just ditch the ka, but hell cant go wrong with a turbo

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-480, I measured the water port on my T25 and on my T28, and they are exactly the same! No need to lend me the tube bender though, I appreciate it but I'm not close to finishing yet so I'm not sure when I'd be able to use it an return it.Just e-mail me the price for the fittings and your Paypal and I'll send you the money. Thanks!

-And Chris, I think the EGR would throw codes because the EGR temp sensor and what not would notice the EGR was not hooked up.

-The muffler shop I went to seems like very good people so I'll see if they can help me hook up the EGR.Do you think muffler shops would carry EGR bungs to weld onto my downpipe?Or would I need to buy one from somewhere?

Oh and 240sxdriftSRT-4, this isn't a KA/SR/whatever-engine discussion so I don't see what you want from here.

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240sxdriftSRT-4 wrote:
just my personal opinion, ka ftl, and sr ftw.
Your opinion doesnt mater because you dont own a 240, and know very little about them other than what you have heard and possibly read. FYI, even the guys who go SR now adays have respect for the Ka-T because pound for pound, the Ka-T rocks them in a drag every time. The kids like you who thought that the Ka was a junker motor died a few years back, you just wernt in the loop.
240sxdriftSRT-4 wrote:its a VR6 koon no 1.8 insight
Did you just call a black Nico member a racial epithet? I personally cant see any reason that you should be on Nico anyway, thats a clincher. Watch your mouth fool.

Razi - I will check on my SR to see if the water ports are the same size and thread tomorrow. If they are, then we are good and i can try to dig these fittings up and come up with a price for them. Im pretty sure they are gona be the same size but wana make sure. I mean i put the fittings on a t3 so.. Idk, just wana be sure.

Also, you can add a resistor to the EGR plug/wires and that eliminates your EGR code. Fvk egr.. : D Unless you live in Ca or have strict visual, then you would need it.

No way an exhaust shop is gona carry that. If you want the EGR bung, then you will need this from JGS. http://www.jgstools.com/turbo/index2.html, its the third one down from the bottom.

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240sxdriftSRT-4 wrote:
its a VR6 koon no 1.8 insight
my bad, it's a VR6 FWD wheel-hopping, torque-steering VW
Chris28 wrote:Since the topic was mentioned earlier in the thread, I have a question/statement about the egr stuff. I was under the impression that since it is all mechanical (run by vacuum and such) that it won't throw a code because there are no sensors back there. This might be different for OBDII motors, but when reading fiznat's write-up he didn't mention anything, and I've read a few places that it shouldn't throw any codes.

Razi I'm in just about the same place in my build as you are, the last of the parts should be here by the end of this week. I wish I had the funds for a t28 haha, all I have a little t25
I believe a disconnected EGR will throw a "purge control valve" code or something that's what my ecu is throwing. I don't think there is an EGR sensor, but a disconnected EGR will raise NOX emmissions which the O2 sensors may notice...I'm really not sure tho someone feel free to correct me.

razi boi, if you want to get an EGR bung for your turbo outlet pipe look here:http://www.jgstools.com/turbo/...69878scroll to the bottom, and you'll see it. All you will have to do is drill out the plug and give it to the muffler shop

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Alright cool. I'll buy that.Spooled, did you do your EGR on your KA-T and did you use that egr bung for it?I know you live in CA as well so I'm curious.
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480sx wrote:When your single cam civic motor can produce torque then we can talk.

Its funny that the two kids who are talking smack about the Ka dont even own a 240. JDM hype fanboi much?
Nate is always right and I should no better then to argue, I'm sorry.

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480sx wrote:Did you just call a black Nico member a racial epithet? I personally cant see any reason that you should be on Nico anyway, thats a clincher. Watch your mouth fool.
I will choke myself accordingly...

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Could someone clean up this thread?Random trolls keep posting here.

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I like how you quoted me and thought you were busting my balls on the whole JDM thing yet you didnt even come close to understanding my post. To compliment that, its funny to me that you have 'Logic' in your name but yet arnt very intelligent, at all.

Its also funny how most of your arguments and thoughts arnt based around anything resembling sound logic. You dont even display basic reasoning skills.

Its also hilarious to me that your 'Boost Logic' name seems to imply that you know something about boosting, when you have a N/A VR6 motor. All bone stock i would imagine.

I also like your idiotic generalizations about the 240 crowd, one that you dont know at all.

You sir, are a gigantic douche bag whos days on Nicoclub are very limited.

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Razi wrote:Alright cool. I'll buy that.Spooled, did you do your EGR on your KA-T and did you use that egr bung for it?I know you live in CA as well so I'm curious.

Modified by Razi at 5:10 AM 12/18/2008
nope, didn't even bother with that. I just took off the EGR tube that would've interfered with the turbo outlet pipe and i got little rubber caps to plug the EGR diaphram(sp?) so I wouldn't have a boost leak or the EGR wouldn't suck fresh air at idle. My car runs perfect and doesn't have any overheating/warming up issues.

Idk man, we are in CA so hooking up the EGR wouldn't make our ka-t's any more smog legal or any more likely to pass visual anyway lol. I just didn't bother with it, plus you'll gain a little more HP cuz the engine is sucking fresh air and no exhaust whatsoever.

An EGR will help your car warm up faster and possibly run a little colder(the opposite of more air, higher temperature as opposed to having a little bit of recirculated exhaust gas in your intake which makes the combustion not as hot, but also not as powerful compared to a 100% fresh air/fuel combustion) but like i said, I NEVER had any overheating or warming up problems..even in 40 degree weather, my ka-t warms up to operating temperature i'd say within 5 minutes.
Boost Logic wrote:and yes my VR6 is mucho times bettter than any KA piece of **** that some redneck is building in his basement
I was gonna reply to this but I feel bad for Razi....plus I don't feel like arguing with hasty generalizations about 240 owners and claims without any logic or research...ironic how your SN is Boost Logic..you have no logic and wait..no BOOST?!!! F..FF....FFF...FAAAAILLL!!

anyways, let the ka-t thread continue!!

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Alright cool I'll just plug mine, and you're right, it won't make our cars any more smog legal in California.

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if the cops pop my hood and see a t3/t4 sitting on a stainless top mount manifold feeding boost through an open greddy bov and a giant fmic...they are not gonna care if my EGR is hooked up LMAO


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