KA-T Plans, any advice?

[spooled240]

Walk or bike

Your in SOCA not like you gotta worry about the weather lol.

yeah here in socal, we just have to worry about low lifes and ****ty drivers when walking or biking lol

**Edit: Seriously, I always seem to start a new page

[Razi]

It's that magical Spooled touch.

[S13Joe]

when do you think your going to be done? i really want pics of your setup, i might actually be going the same route. if you could make a parts list when your done too that would be nice...

[Razi]

Hopefully this week, I'll definitely have pictures once I'm done.

I got everything I needed welded today.SO EXCITED!

I can finally put on my darned oil pan and pour in some oil, and put on my BOV, and put in my water temp sensor.

[spooled240]

It's that magical Spooled touch.

maybe..what the hell, I try and heal the sick too lol.

dude the Oil pan was one of the hardest things to do IMO so !! LMK when you get that ish done or if you need help, I live pretty close just hit me up on aim for questions or w/e.

[jace111]

For the fuel you can either get an fmu *8:1* Or get sr injectors since they're so cheap and a nismo adjustable fpr, also pretty cheap online. But of course with the sr's you'll have to get some type of tune unlike the fmu route.For as cheap as sr 370's go for you may as well. But if you want you could just knock off like 2* of tiiming or so and run an fmu on stock injectors. and run no more than like 7-8 psi.

You'll probably need electric fans as well most likely, and a fuel pressure gauge is always helpful, as well as a wideband, i recommend the aem uego since it fits ina regualr pillar pod. Bkr7e ngk spark plugs, z32 fuel filter, definitely going to want a better clutch if you run more than 5 psi. I was slipping on a brand new oem one on 5psi, then when i went to 9 psi i went nowhere when boost kicked in. So keep that in mind as well.

no sr injectors!

[Razi]

maybe..what the hell, I try and heal the sick too lol.

dude the Oil pan was one of the hardest things to do IMO so !! LMK when you get that ish done or if you need help, I live pretty close just hit me up on aim for questions or w/e.

LOL you're right, it was difficult.I got it out though, I got the bung welded on it yesterday.Thanks for the offer

Now I'm wondering, what's the recommended path for the oil return on a bottom mount?

I was thinking under the engine mount..but maybe over it? :\
Modified by Razi at 9:16 PM 1/6/2009

[Razi]

I know I haven't posted many pictures of my progress so I took some today!Yum! Shiny manifold. I'll heat wrap it, along with my AC line that's really close to my turbo elbow. Don't know why my brake fluid looks black in this picture, it's actually really clean.I like the guy that did the welds, he even rounded the bottoms of the flange so it curves to match the roundness of the pipe on the inside.Bung welded Pan painted with Duplicolor Engine paint.That blue case in the back has a lot of Lego blocks in it, it uses green Lego panels as sliding lids . Only seems like yesterday when I was making Lego cars. Now I'm fooling around with a real one.

[480sx]

Whoever is doing your tig work knows his stuff, very nice welds.

Holy crap your manifold is close to your brake lines. Bend them out of the way as much as possible and use a heat reflective sleeve around them. They will crack.. Dont go nuts when bending them. I actually just got 9 feet of 1/2 inch DEI thermal reflective sleeve good till 900d, i only wanted 3 feet but the salesman made a mistake and i didnt really care to send the other 6 feet back( comes in 3 foot sections). If you want i can sell you 3 feet of it for 18 shipped. I still have those McMaster fittings too if you wanted to do a hard line watering setup to your turbo. Just forgot to get back to you about them i get busy.

To bad you installed the manifold before you heat wrapped it, muchh easier to do a good heat wrap job with the manifold off. Install the heat wrap wet, much easier to do a good job.

As far as your drain line goes, just pick the path of least resistance and as vertical as possible. Going through the engine mounts little hole works if its a direct rout, but you have to sleeve the hole so that it wont chafe through.

A piece of criticism though just for anyone reading this thread, otherwise i wouldnt say a word because theres not much you can do about it at this point. With your oil return bung, you want to put at least a ~35 degree angle on the bung itself so it has a downward flow into the pan.Remember, the oil pan itself has a negative angle on it too so welding a strait bung to it creates an angle like this.. |\ |-pan \-bung

Your oil return will still work fine Razi, nothing to worry about.

[Razi]

Thanks for the words.I got water hard line fittings already, there is a place like McMaster here called McFadden-Dale, super awesome place.

I'll have to get back to you on the DEI thermal reflective sleeves though, sounds like a good deal to me! How long do you think it will take to ship? Probably a week I'm guessing. I need to finish up before Sunday

Oh and I just noticed my oil sandwich block from eBay has arrived. Seems well made, I'll give a review about it after I start using it.Here is a very lazy demo of how it might look. I blocked off the oil feed line tee with one of the plugs that came with the sandwich block, making it an L.
Modified by Razi at 11:58 PM 1/7/2009

[spooled240]

looking good man

[480sx]

3-5 days, usually gets out to SoCa from here fast USPS priority.

Make sure you lube the rubber gasket that seals against the block.

[spooled240]

one of my brake lines is REALLY close to my turbo and it boiled one time but I was wondering if I could tee that brake line to the other one and cap it. There's two lines for the fronts, one for each...I was wondering if one line could handle enough volume

[480sx]

^^ No.

[Razi]

3-5 days, usually gets out to SoCa from here fast USPS priority.

Make sure you lube the rubber gasket that seals against the block.

Ahhhh darn, my dad already bought some this morning without asking me :\.Thanks though.

I'll bend my brake lines a bit tonight and wrap em with the reflective wrap, including the a/c.Also, my oil pan goes in tonight! WOOOOOOTon of stuff is gonna get done tonight, super excited.Another step closer to boost!
Modified by Razi at 6:03 PM 1/8/2009

[Razi]

Mummies!I tried to wrap the whole thing including the flex section, but I can't get it to turn out neat, so I might wrap just the first part of the downpipe and skip the rest of it. Or not wrap it at all.

Under my 1st cylinder, I think that reddish tint is caused by oil squirting onto it when the piston was hot, and it sorta baked on there.Because my 2nd cylinder is clean as a whistle.

I also put on my oil pan yesterday, hooked up the oil drain hose, and dropped the engine back down to it's mounts today, and did some mummifying.I forgot to take pictures of the thermal reflective wrap on my a/c line, but it turned out great .

[spooled240]

^^ No.

yeah i don't wanna mess around with my brakes, I'd rather clock the engine via custom motor mounts anyway



oh noez you are screwed, j/k you'll be fine.

[Razi]

oh noez you are screwed

First I was like.

j/k you'll be fine.

Then I was like.

[Razi]

I can hear fuel hissing through my FMU fairly well, is this normal?I turned the key to the ON position today to test that my fuel pump has been installed correctly, and I can hear hissing from my FMU. :\

It's vacuum hose is not yet plugged in, maybe that's the reason why? It probably is, I'll update again once my car starts up.

Edit: Actually I don't see why having the vacuum unhooked would cause it to hiss.The fuel hoses are wavy because they are a bit too long, maybe that would cause it to make a hissing noise?
Modified by Razi at 7:00 PM 1/14/2009

[Chris28]

I don't know how your fmu is set up, but the hissing noise might be fuel leaking. The way my fpr was set up it was like just a flat fitting that bolted on to the end of the fuel rail. It didn't come with a rubber o-ring, so I went to the hardware store and found one that kind of fit. On first start up, fuel sprayed out from the fitting, making a hissing noise lol.

I don't know how yours is setup, but after turning the key check all the fuel line connections to make sure they are dry.

Looks good, that's how mine looked a few weeks ago. Too bad I attempted to rebuild the engine

[480sx]

Make sure your feed/return lines are set up in the right way. I mean the sound could be normal, idk iv never run a FMU.

Take a bottle and stick the hose coming from your fuel filter and make sure its spraying fuel out that way, and you have that hose hooked up to the rail in the middle, the barbed fitting on the rail.

If your fuel lines are hooked up, idk what to tell you about the hissing. A FPR will make a kinda hissing noise when your priming it, but its not that loud.

[Razi]

I hooked up the vacuum lines and the weird hissing sound went away.Odd.

Also, I'm literally a few hours away from starting it up.I hope the open downpipe doesn't own my ears.

[spooled240]

ohh emm geeeeee!

[Razi]

Edit : Nvm, the mass air flow sensor was unplugged.

Is 20 vacuum at idle normal?Should I be making boost when I rev to 2-3k rpms in neutral? Because I'm not.
Modified by Razi at 12:23 PM 1/15/2009

[480sx]

20 vac is great.

You should not be making boost, dont worry. Your engine doesnt produce enough gas to spool the compressor when free reving unless you really max it out, even then you might only get 1-3 psi. Free reving = bad for everything.

[Razi]

Good good. :Not sure why the engine is running slightly rough though, I'll check all the vacuum lines again and make sure my EGR is properly sealed.

I haven't retarded my timing by 2 degrees yet, I also have the colder spark plugs recommended in one of the KA-T stickies.

Edit: EVERYTHING RUNS SO WELL. Boost makes me jizz my pants, wow.How do you set the proper BOV spring stiffness?Also I hear my turbo whistling away even at idle. Normal?

Also: Open downpipe is loud and smelly!

Modified by Razi at 5:27 PM 1/15/2009
Modified by Razi at 6:29 PM 1/15/2009

[AZ89two4Tsx]

What did you do with the EGR? I'm too lazy to read it all again. Did you relocate it?

Anyways, glad to hear it's running as it should and be sure to post final pics!!!

[s14derrick]

have you gotten to go for a good long cruise yet? what are all your impressions ?

[Razi]

I'll post pics as soon as my little sister figures out where she put the camera. LOL

For the EGR I just plugged it, blocked it off.My engine sits a bit higher than stock because of the Nismo mounts, and my O2 sensor touches the EGR pipe, so I might bend it a little out of the way or use some tough zipties to keep it away from the O2 sensor. Also since it sits high, the flex section of my downpipe hits my car's body so I gotta get my downpipe a bit modified at the exhaust shop.

I'm so excited. I'm still not completely done though, still need to hook up the rest of my gauges, and my turbo timer. Then to put on my bumper, and of course get an exhaust.

Gosh boost is so fun and addicting, but also kind of scary.

[S13_love]

Hopefully this week, I'll definitely have pictures once I'm done.

I got everything I needed welded today.SO EXCITED!

I can finally put on my darned oil pan and pour in some oil, and put on my BOV, and put in my water temp sensor.

Looking good so far Razi,

So where is the water temp sensor located on the KA? Mine doesn't work and i've been struggling to even find it right now.