Free Sleepy eye mod... quck and easy

[1drifterX]

Hey all,

Great methods. I think someone should do a final write up of BlackS13's and Sin's methods. I find myself having to scan through numerous posts for info, when a step by step write up would greatly help on a DIY project. Pics to go with it would be nice. One question also, how would you wire a switch on the inside of the car? What wires would you use to operate the switch?

thanks.

1drifterX

[90s13ka24e]

ive seen this mod on my friends car and i was tryin to figure out how he did it. now i know thanks man

[TEDRPS13]

Found out more about the stock headlight timer. I removed this unit yesterday along with the relays and this system is very complicated to say the least. It uses a series of diodes and transistors to tell the headlights where to stop. After closely examining this system, I think that it will be easier to program a microcomputer to do the job.

If anyoneout there is experienced in small circuitry and would like to attempt to modify the stock timer, please tell me how it goes, otherwise I'll just post as soon as I have more about the mpu.

[1drifterX]

Hi,

I was just on the phone with a local Thrifty's and I was asking the guy about his fuse accessories. He said I needed to know the amperage that was needed so i dont blow a fuse, also the same amperage, i believe, for the toggle switch. Can someone please help.

thank you,

1drifterX

[1drifterX]

Hi,

I was just on the phone with a local Thrifty's and I was asking the guy about his fuse accessories. He said I needed to know the amperage that was needed so i dont blow a fuse, also the same amperage, i believe, for the toggle switch. Can someone please help.

thank you,

1drifterX

[TEDRPS13]

The amperage of what and what is this "fuse accessory" that you speak of?

[1drifterX]

I believe it was SinIC who posted the method. To extend out from the fuse box and then have a fuse and run a wire to a switch. The accessory i speak of is something they told me about at NAPA. Plugs into the fuse slot and then it has a fuse holder and a wire running out. I was wonder what amperage it is, to determine the appropriate part.

*_*

If someone could give me a quick rund down, preferrably Sin's method, I would greatly appreciate it. 1 question though, if i were to wire the toggle switch and leave the light switch next to the steering colom alone would it still function and close lights completely when the switch was OFF?

thanks!

1drifterX

[kool-aid54]

you guys are making it way too hard. just cut the ground. As soon as I found out about the ground mehtod I ran out and did it. Believe me, its a lot less headache than trying to figure out the how all that crap works. What you really need to do is figure out how limit switches work, because I'm sure that the headlight motors have some sort of switch that tells it when to stop moving. If you can raise the lower limit the light should stop higher. PROBLEM, You have to take apart your motor to investigate. I suggest finding one in a junk yard or even finding one thats junk because this one doesn't necessarily have to work once you figure out how it it stops and comes apart you can then work on how to make it stop the motor higher up. Maybe I'm a moron but it sounds logical.

Chris

[TEDRPS13]

Read a few posts back up.

I already found out how they work. Theres a small black box on the driver side behind the kickpanel. This is the headlight timer. It controls when the headlights stop, not something inside of the motors. I took my timer apart and found out that there is no limiter switch, only a series of transistors and diodes. This box works in conjunction with the 4 relays under the hood to raise and lower the lights.

Very complicated, thats why I am going to start programming a microcomputer to plug directly into the headlight motors. This will be cooler and by far the most effective way to get your headlights where you want them.

[kool-aid54]

but how does the timer know where the headlight is? Does it know that for, lets just say 4 seconds the light will be in motion and after four seconds the light should be down and it stops or what? I might get a parts car this week and I'll see if I can see what you're talking about because I don't plan on tearing mine apart for fear of breaking them. Do you know what I mean?

[TEDRPS13]

I know what you mean. I'm not really sure how it works, but I know it's too much to try and change how it works. I figure I'll juz start over on the timer and make my own.

[marshun]

relays.

[kickertu]

holy hell fellas.. i posted this almost a YEAR ago...

the methods above cost money. my method is free. and easy at that.

ill go over it again, if it wasnt clear before.

to the left of the steering wheel are a few big buttons... the top one if pushed will make the headlights go up, without turnin on hte lights. if you push the button again, they will fall back to where they were.. this is the button you need to pull out.

just grip it fairly well with your hands, and wiggle it back and forth until it comes out.

behind the button you will see 5-6 wires.. (its been awhile give me a break)

locate the brown wire, and cut it.. thats it.. thats all you do..replace the buttom where it normally was.

now if you press the button, nothing should happen.. so press the button so its in, and turn the headlights on. then turn the lights off...

the headlights should stay up, without the lights being on... if so, you have done it right.

press the same button again, and they will fall down. while they are falling, press the button again, and it will stop the fall, and the lights will stay where they were.

you can press the button in and out, numerous times to get the desired height.

its easy as hell fellas... a 10yo can do it.. get er done

only downfall to it, is sometimes one motor moves faster than the other, so if you time it wrong, they will be not as even... but close enough to not be able to tell

[TEDRPS13]

True anyone could do that, but I dont want to do it that way. I want to do something no one else has one, hence me wanting to program a microcomputer.

This would make it exactly the same height every time even if the motors were going at different speeds. This would also allow more precise way to do this.

[kickertu]

true... but not all of the hood rats with 240's have money/knowledge to do something like that...

most of these people are 16-18yo kids, that saw D1... and wanted to be JdM mAd TyTe Yo!!!

[Timeless240]

Kickertu, let the man tinker!

[kool-aid54]

Good Luck TEDRPS13

[Zydeco]

http://www.cardomain.com/memberpage/575633/6

heres my wright up of this mod with pictures. this is a realy easy thing to do. it only take about an hour and a half if your slow like me.

[djpotential]

Ok heres a dumb question. when you say "splice", do you mean to cut the (silver and blue) wire. Then attach a wire to each end of that (silver and blue). then run both of those wires to the consel. then attaching each wire to the toggle switch? I am new to wiring. sorry guys

[drftnassmofo]

kickertu....you are the shizznyte!!!!thanx man..all my boys w/ 240s goin crazy!!!mwah haah haah

[drgabber]

I just did this mod last weekend. I couldn't get the pop up switch to come out enough to be able to cut the wire, so I pulled out the dummy switch below it, stuck in some wire cutters and cut the brown wire from there.

My headlights do not go down evenly(the driver's side headlight goes down faster.) But I discovered if I just double click the switch once the level of the headlights are really close to each other.

[Paragon]

My method:There's a 5 amp fuse in the kick panel. It's your headlight control motor fuse.

What I did: Took a momentary push button switch, and attached the fuse to the wire coming off the switch using two spade connectors. Using two more spade ends, one on each end of the switch, I stuck the switch into the fuse panel. Now, when I turn the lights off, all I do is tap the button until the lights go down to where I want them. With this method, I can still turn the lights on with the motors at the halfway point, achieving the uber-jdm mad tyte sleepy eyes, yo.

[tractorcrusher]

ok, i lucked out and found the pics.

[img=cut the blue wire]

I just did this method, and when i pushed the butten they went up fine... pushed it again and nothing... how do i get the lights to drop??

EDIT: Please help fast!

2nd Edit: Damnit, where do I put the swtich??! I didn't think you needed a switch cause the ****ing image is broken

3rd Edit: I swear I'm not stupid, see post below.
Modified by tractorcrusher at 9:49 PM 12/3/2004

[tractorcrusher]

*sigh* no sleepy eye tonight... But at least my lights are going back down now.

I put quick connecters on each end of the baby blue wire (one side male and one side female).

I did the same with the switch I was using... Plugged it up (which took forever, thanks to the very shortness of the connectors on the baby blue cables), and nothing...

Re-did the connectors (thought maybe I did a **** crimp job), plugged it up once again, and nothing.

Removed the switch completely and just plugged the baby blue male to the baby blue female... Still nothing.

*Fck!, blew a fuse!*

So I replaced the 5 amp fuse and now they go up and down as normal. Decided not to **** with the switch tonight, as it is a 3 amp. May try my hand at it tomorrow if I buy a 5 amp switch.

BTW-no offense Black, but the fuse box method sucks. The only way I had barely enough room to do this crap was by taking the plastic kick trim piece off, the plastic fuse door trim piece off, and the dead pedal box off.

[jhons240sx]

thanks for the trick man, it works great

[RBpoweredSileighty]

My method:There's a 5 amp fuse in the kick panel. It's your headlight control motor fuse.

What I did: Took a momentary push button switch, and attached the fuse to the wire coming off the switch using two spade connectors. Using two more spade ends, one on each end of the switch, I stuck the switch into the fuse panel. Now, when I turn the lights off, all I do is tap the button until the lights go down to where I want them. With this method, I can still turn the lights on with the motors at the halfway point, achieving the uber-jdm mad tyte sleepy eyes, yo.

intresting... do you have any pics of that?

[Kansei240sx]

Sweet!! I just did this mod and i was surprised by the smile it brought to me in happyness. I guess im so happy i could do something that works so easy becuase i have been having beyond a hell of a damn time getting these hotshot headers to stop leaking and fitting right. .... ::sigh:: so frustrating... damn fourth port... : /

[NisanS13turbo]

COol, i got it work'n but i was confused when pressing the modified botton, because i pressed it once and all it did was closed and i figured out that you have to press it twice. The first push is to allow it to go down and the second time is to set it where you want your headlight to settle. Pretty cool trick, thanks

[themike]

Has anyone tried to disable the switch's "lock" feature? By this I mean make the switch so it never stays in the forward position. This way you can just push it to where you want it instead of double clicking it to the spot you want. Maybe a rotary switch to "dial" the lights to the right height?

$.02

mike

[ccasey645]

yes this is an old thread but i just did this mod 5 minutes ago and works great!