Dude sweet.. KA supercharger kit!!

[91RMKS13]

anyone who puts this on their car will have to have their car be referred to as a "super coupe" and as far as i can remember the only recent cars named as such were fords.....ummm no thanks.

But my car is a hatch .

[j-z]

Buy a SC and then get a plate of aluminum. Put paint on bottom of SC. Set aluminum plate on SC and then remove. Cut the outside edge of and the part where there is no paint. Drill holes to allow SC to mount to plate. After test fitting for clearance and pulley. Weld plate to you intake mani which you hacked in 2.....

fo shizzle. it really is as easy as that. only thing would be to find someone that can tig aluminum, but that would only cost $75 at most to weld on the adapter to the runners. or if you wanted to do it really cheap you could just bolt it onto the bottom of the uper mani like in the ebay kit. actually, now that i think about it, you would have to do it that way how the ebay kit is. i remember when i was doing my itb setup on how after i cut the upper mani how close that really is to the hood. meaning once i got the plenum and itbs mounted to it, it was really close to my hood. i think the way they did it on ebay is the most tlogical way to do it. also, anyonce can do it that way with some paint, a drill, and a cut off wheel. if you cut the runners and welded the plate onto it, depending wher eyou made the cut at, you would have some serious fitment issues. he said in the email that the intake tube does clear the shock tower, so youre good there. if i ever wanted to do a dirt cheap boost project id def try this out. supercharger= $200 or so, aluminum plate = $10, fmu = 75, inline pump = $50, rtv= $4, probability of cutting up and using your aluminum intake tube and it working is highly. wiht miscellaneous shlt added in it can def be done for around $400 for the DIYer. i guess youd also have to get a machine shop weld an extra pulley on the crank and balance it. wooptie doo that might cost $75 with the pulley. so you could def do it for under 500. man if i didnt just spend over 4k on my ka and wanted to do a real cheap setup id prob try this. although id never come close to the 400whp mark ill eventually be putting down, but itd be a great bang for the buck and a blast to drive. maybe if i find a beater ill go this route.

[ricebike]

waitamin, wasn't david hasselhoff/knightrider putting one togheter?

(i'll search for it later; gotta go)

[JesusLikesKFC]

hmm sound like pie, too bad i suck at welding right now lol.i really wanna try thi during this winter.

[91RMKS13]

I am still talking to Thomas Knight if you guys have any questions let me know and I will tell him. I am also getting more info on what he is doing with this kit. when I get more info I will post it.

[ricebike]

waitamin, wasn't david hasselhoff/knightrider putting one togheter?

(i'll search for it later; gotta go)

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[Florida240sx]

The sohc mani will be fine in the way I'm talking about. Supercharger would sit vertical. Would probably have to cut hood for fitment... Only issue I always came about was finding a Sc to spin the same way as your pulleys. Because if opposite then there is the room issue of putting in the extra pulley to redirect the motion on the SC. If I have time I'll mess around with it. But I'm looking for big hp numbers which this can't produce. Be fun for a rally car.

[JesusLikesKFC]

im looking to sell my current s13 and try to cash out. then for 1200 buy another s13 and hopefully sc it aiming around 175ish whp. if its cheaper than 600 ill do it in a heartbeat. want somthing fun, and more experiance without pulling out my hair. going from 230whp to 170ish wont kill me.

[corey240]

so if you sc the ka, then do exhaust,intake,header,plugs,wires, maybe injectors and mafs would you hit atleast the 200 marker? and after its all said and done wouldnt turbo still be cheaper and get you more power or for the close to same price make better numbers?

[boznuttz]

turbos from junk yards and salvage yards. fmic from diesel trucks, ebay manifolds, my brother for more injectors. every option for forced induction has its own prices depending on how much your willing to spend....or research.

[SeVa-S13]

Damn there's alot of h8 going on here.

They're not forcing anyone to buy the kit; if you feel your money is better spent on a turbo kit, then buy/build one.

I know I'd rather have 200whp with that Eaton, vs. 200whp with a turbo.

[91RMKS13]

Damn there's alot of h8 going on here.

They're not forcing anyone to buy the kit; if you feel your money is better spent on a turbo kit, then buy/build one.

I know I'd rather have 200whp with that Eaton, vs. 200whp with a turbo.

This is well designed kit and I think it would be perfect for people who enjoy drifting and autocross or anywhere when quick responce is needed. It wouldnt make the biggest numbers but you can get a cheap, simple, reliable start. It is a lot different then turbo. Sure you could peice together a turbo setup for less. If that is what you want then do that. There are some people that would like a kit instead of peicing it together and this will have an awesome price for a kit. This auction was only meant to get people talking and it did just that. For you people that are saying you could build a turbo setup cheaper do you ***** about how pricey every turbo kit is?

I think a supercharger for the KA is a great idea and I want one for one of my 240s now. I am also talking to Thomas Knight to see if there is any way he might be able to produce these kits for Altima owners and you SOHC guys. I will post back in here when I get more info.

[benemorius]

I am also talking to Thomas Knight to see if there is any way he might be able to produce these kits for Altima owners and you SOHC guys. I will post back in here when I get more info.

w00t for SOHC love!!

[wilfonzo]

double w00t for the the good ole KA24E

IMO a SC on a SohC would be tits

[Shift_Oversteer]

I still say he's asking waaaaaaay too much for that kit that costs him 4 dollars to make minus the blower...

[wilfonzo]

yeah, i found a ton of the SC's for like 200$ i'd mos def drop 1200 or whatever it is if it had everything; fuel mangement, injectors, and whatever else you need for some parasitic power

[sil_eighty86]

I think the $1200 is a good price and if I had the money I would jump on it. But this guy is jacking the price up to $2500 for a base kit and $3000 for the ported one. That is way to much, and $1200 for the flang this guy it nuts.

[91RMKS13]

w00t for SOHC love!!

He has not said anything about it I just asked if it would be possible. Yes I suggested it. I am still waiting on another reply from him.

[travisn]

how about that idea on an sr??? compression for boost.... hmm... sr's intake is 2 pieces too... hmm... no turbo lag... hmm.... maybe have enough torque to spin some tires low end w/o dumping the clutch... hmm lol

so why dont the s/c's need oil???

[7anshin]

I think the $1200 is a good price and if I had the money I would jump on it. But this guy is jacking the price up to $2500 for a base kit and $3000 for the ported one. That is way to much, and $1200 for the flang this guy it nuts.

I agree. I would not pay $3000 for a supercharger kit. No way. That being said, I still want to supercharge my ka! If someone would just put out a good kit for a reasonable price they would make plenty of money from us but not have to overcharge.

Many members seem to know exactly what to do "from theory" or claims of doing it themselves (if you did great, please share). So many claim it would be easy or is easy... If it is so easy and cheep to design and sell it, hell we will buy.

There is obviously an interest in a SC KA. I just think most of us that are interested are not going to be willing (honestly) to pay $3000 for a sc kit.

[jrb92se]

that picture looks like a bad photshop job my friend matt could do better look closley at how the belt travels under the water neck in the pic it starts to twist then vanishes and looks like it ends up laying loose underneath the intake mani that isnt a real pic you can see where they edited it to where the intakemani bolts to the head it really isnt a good photochop ask thomas knight if he want someone to make some better fake pictures for him

Modified by jb96s14 at 10:23 AM 7/2/2006
Modified by jb96s14 at 10:24 AM 7/2/2006

[91RMKS13]

Ok I have word back from Thomas Knight along woth pics that I will post in a sec.

WHEN I MAKE POWER GAIN PREDICTIONS, I AM ALWAYS LOW ON MY NUMBERS. MY 2.5 V6 PROBE GT KIT STARTED AT A GAIN FROM 130 TO AN AVERAGE 215 WHEEL HP @ 6 PSI. BYRON, THE HEAD ENGINEER AT INJEN TECHNOLOGIES TOOK SEVERAL MONTHS THROUGH TRIAL AND ERROR AND FINALLY REACHED 278 WHEEL HP AND 281 TQ @ 7-8 PSI BOOST ON HIS OWN 96 PGT USING THEIR IN-HOUSE DYNO. A SET OF HEADERS, 3" EXHAUST, 3" RANDOM CAT, PORTED EATON & MANIFOLD, WATER INJECTION, AND 3MM LARGER THROTTLE BODY DID THAT. THE KA24DE IS A VERY EFFICIENT ENGINE. I WILL GUESS WE WILL BE SEEING 250 WHEEL HP @ 8 PSI OR SO, AND OVER 300 AT HIGHER BOOST LEVELS WITH WATER INJECTION. OBVIOUSLY HEADERS, EXHAUST, MAXIMA MAF, ETC WILL BE REQUIRED. THE INTERCOOLER WILL ALSO ADD 25-30 MORE HP @ 10 PSI. JUST FOR YOUR KNOWLEDGE, THE UPPER MANIFOLD WILL BE CUSTOMIZED WITH TWIN PLENUMS AND EACH PLENUM WILL HAVE A 2.5" INLET ON IT. EACH INLET WILL GO TO A FMIC. WE DID THIS ON THE KLV6 AND THE 3000GT KITS AND SAW 40 EXTRA HP ON BOTH VEHICLES.

HERE IS HOW I USE AN FMIC WITH A ROOTS TYPE SUPERCHARGER. NOTE THE INLET AND OUTLET ON BOTH THE 3000GT AMND PROBE GT SUPERCHARGER MANIFOLD.THE PGT MANIFOLD--NOTE THE INLET AND OUTLETS ON THE SAME SIDE OF THE MANIFOLD.

WE WILL HAVE A KA24DE DYNO NEXT FRIDAY AND A SOHC KIT DYNOED SAT OR SUN. I DID NOT WANT TO ANNOUNCE IT YET, BUT WE HAVE DESIGNED AN ALTERNATOR MOUNTED BELT DRIVE TURBO (AM-BDT), AND WE HAVE FIT ONE TO A SOHC. IT WILL ACTUALLY WORK ON BOTH SOHC AND DOHC CARS, BUT IS BETTER ON A 5-SPEED BECAUSE OF THE CENTRIFUGAL BOOST RISING AS RPM INCREASES.

THE ALTIMA USES DIFFERENT PULLEYS, SO I WOULD HAVE TO SEE 5 OR MORE BUYERS FOR ME TO DESIGN A KIT. I OFFERED ONE A FEW YEARS BACK, AND NOBODY ORDERED ONE. THE SOHC IS ALREADY COVERED.

WE MUST CONSIDER THE FUEL QUALITY IN ALL 50 STAES. FLA HAS 93 OCTANE, BUT DENVER HAS ONLY 91 AVAILABLE--SAME WITH SALT LAKE CITY. SO RAISING BOOST WILL BE SIMPLE TO DO, BUT I WONT SHIP KITS WITH SMALLER PULLEYS--OR AT LEAST NOT NOW. I ALREADY HAVE THE ROUTING DESIGNED FOR THE IC. I MUST BE CAREFUL ABOUT SHOWING DETAILS INTIL WE HAVE SOLD 30-40 OF THESE. THERE IS ALREADY MENTION OF COPYING MY DESIGN ON SOME BOARDS ACCORDING TO SEVERAL NISSAN OWNERS I KNOW. THE EXACT PLACEMENT IS CRITICAL FOR EVERYTHING TO FIT, AND THAT TOOK ME A VERY LONG TIME--ABOUT THREE MONTHS TO GET IT JUST RIGHT.PARTS WILL INCLUDE THE MANIFOLD ADAPTER, THROTTLE BODY PLENUM, SUPERCHARGER, IDLER PULLEY BRACKET, IDLER PULLEY, BELT, FASTENERS, THROTTLE CABLE MOUNT, ISC MOUNT, GASKETS, AND INSTRUCTIONS. THAT KIT WILL BE RETAILED AT $2495 ONCE THESE THREE REMAINING KITS ARE GONE (WE SOLD ONE TODAY LOCALLY, AND TWO EARLIER). LARGER INJECTORS, MODDED SISTER BOARD ECU, AND GAUGES WILL ADD $500.

WE DO ALLOW FOR A LAYAWAY ON THESE FIRST FEW KITS. $200-$300 DEPOSIT WILL HOLD ONE TILL YOU PAY IT OFF. AS FOR BUILDING ONE BY COPYING, IT COSTS ABOUT $150 PER PART FOR THE CNC PROGRAMMING. THERE ARE TWO FLANGES FOR THE THROTTLE BODY, ONE FOR THE SUPERCHARGER TO MANIFOLD, AND ONE FOR THE TENSIONER/IDLER PULLEY BRACKET. UNLESS SOME HACK WANTS TO MAKE A KIT USING A CHEAP DRILL PRESS, GRINDER, AND SAWZ-ALL, THEY WILL SPEND SEVERAL THOUSAND DOLLARS DOING THE CNC PROGRAM OVER AND OVER AGAIN UNTIL IT IS PERFECT. THIS IS WHY I PROTECT MY DESIGNS UNTIL THERE ARE SO MANY OUT THERE THAT PEOPLE DO THE MATH AND REALIZE THEY CANT PRODUCE THE KIT FOR ANY LESS. IF SOMETHING IS LAZER CUT, OR CUT BY SAW, GRINDER, ETC, THE PORTS WILL NEED TO BE RADIUSED FOR GOOD FLOW. OUR CNC PRODUCTION KITS--THE ONES WE WILL SELL AFTER THE FIRST FEW ARE GONE--WILL HAVE RACE PORTING DONE ON THE MILLING MACHINE, AS WELL AS TAPPING & THREADING THE HOLES CORRECTLY. MAYBE AN OWNER OF A MACHINE SHOP CAN MAKE ONE FOR SLIGHTLY LESS THAN MY COST, BUT THIS IS NOT THE PROBLEM PERSON I AM SPEAKING OF. IT IS THE S.O.B. THAT BUYS A KIT, COPIES ALL THE PARTS, AND THEN OFFERS THE KIT FOR LESS BECAUSE ALL THE CNC DESIGN WORK IS ALREADY DONE. SCANNING AN OUTLINE WILL GET VERY CLOSE WITH MODERN SCANNING AUTOCAD PROGRAMS. I WILL HAVE 30-40 KITS ALREADY SOLD BEFORE THAT CAN HAPPEN, AND PEOPLE WILL KNOW RIGHT AWAY THAT IT IS MY DESIGN THEY COPIED, AND THEY HAVE NO IDEAS THEMSELVES. MOST BOARDS HAVE A FEW OF THESE GUYS ON THEM, AND THEY ARE THE FLAMERS OF ANY IDEAS THEY DID NOT THINK OF. SO GIVE IT A FEW WEEKS, AND YOU WILL HAVE PROVEN DYNO RUNS FROM 3-4 DIFFERENT CARS, AND THE SOHC AM-BDT SYSTEM WILL ALSO FIT THE DOHC AND WILL BE ABOUT $1800 WHOLESALE AND INCLUDES A BRAND NEW ALTERNATOR. JUST FOR YOUR KNOWLEDGE, HERE ARE SOME BDT KITS WE ALREADY OFFER. TOP PICS ARE PROBE GT V6, SQ25 SPEC & ALTIMA,COUGAR V6, AND 3000GT V6:

And here is the Altima dyno. (if the above pics dont work i will try to have them up soon)

[7anshin]

Looks/sounds good from the dyno and description. Can't wait to see those pictures! I wish I knew about the kit for the altima.. My 98 would have loved some help.

What I was saying in my post is that if all these people are bragging about how easy/inexpensive it would be to do this then why are they not? Exactly.

I have to check out the BDT kit too. I know very little about anything except N/A. Only what I can read or see on the internet...

There will allways be people trying to steal your design, no matter what it is for. Like I said in another post if you put together a good, solid & safe system people will buy it unless the knock off is as good or somehow better. The beauty of that for Mr. Knight is how often have we seen a knock-off that was any good? It's rare.

I congradulate anyone who does this right and gets it out/available to us!

[wilfonzo]

"THAT KIT WILL BE RETAILED AT $2495""AND THE SOHC AM-BDT SYSTEM WILL ALSO FIT THE DOHC AND WILL BE ABOUT $1800 WHOLESALE "

... so that means a nico group buy deal of $1500, right?

[JesusLikesKFC]

anybody peice together a setup for under 500 diy sc? set aside abs module, oil filter, with the eaton m62 is it roomy?

[Florida240sx]

The price of this kit in my opinion is too much. With one night of test fitting you could make on e fit. I won't have my shop till this fall. I'm restricted because I have to work out in the weather. My main thign is that this Sc won't give much power past the 250hp mark. So no room for upgrade....

[corey240]

what is you had the sc and a t25 turbo?

[travisn]

or a sc and a t3t4

or a sc and a t66

[corey240]

its a serious question. can you do both? and would just a t25 get you some decent numbers in the 200 range? maybe 3? i honstly dont know thats why im asking...

[JesusLikesKFC]

ill try n get as much cash for my current car soon to sell. buy another s13, a variety of used parts n metal off ebay, and see what happens. not looking for high numbers. just a daily, dependable, fun beater that wont kill my pocket. plus it will be nice gaining experiance too.