Dude sweet.. KA supercharger kit!!

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tloof
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Check out the following post in which I have attached pictures of an Eaton Sc install on my Frontier version KA24DE (with 240SX upper intake):

zerothread/197243

This conversion is the one that is going into my '85 Nissan 720 pickup. At only 2900 lbs it ought to be one quick little truck with about 210 RWHP!!

Like I previously said, it is actually a very simple install (my total costs in the end for this entire SC conversion will be no more than $1000...which includes a JWT programmed ECU for a boosted application).


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Mr. Knight,

This is regarding the positioning of the throttle body. Would it be feasible to angle it, with say a 45 degree angle, to where the piping would possibly be able to clear underneath a strut tower bar? I was looking at the under the hood photos and It seemed like that it would be poosible to do so. It would be a tight fit b/w the strut tower and the s/c but it looks possible. If you've tried it, correct me on my assumption please.

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I'm doing essentially just that on my SC KAde conversion in my '85 720 pickup. Instead of welding up an aluminum inlet duct like Thomas Knight supplies, I am making mine out of a 2 1/2" OD x 3" radius 90 degree mandrel bent 18 ga exhaust tube and plan to rotate this 90 degree bend so that it points forward at a 45 degree angle instead of pointing it straight up. Of course I don't have a shock tower to worry about in my 720 pickup!


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Supercharged kouki at nopi. Sorry for crappy pics. The superchager looked like a frontiers and was functional.

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lol. I like the custom sign.


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That was one of mr knights ki. They had to clean up the edges and fix a couple things on it, then add fuel and everything...this was one of the $1200 special ones....

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still looks descent, I wonder how it drives...

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Yeah, I had to make the sign because everybody kept walking by and saying "Look at that cold air intake.". I just couldn't take it anymore.

The car drives awesome. I'm still running rich, but the temperatures finally dropped out of the 90's and my car is lovin' it. I will post dyno sheets as soon as possible. I know people have been waiting for them for a while, but due to other forces, I have not been able to make it to the shop.

Watty

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travis newberry wrote:well idk hondas so 140 was a guess...

origin of 5252 anyone?
short answer: 5252 ≈ (60*550) / 2π

long answer: http://faraday.physics.utoront....html
travis newberry wrote:how does that work... a torque curve isnt a linear equation so how you can use an equation that doesnt take into anything but a simple rise/run formula. it is basically saying that every car that makes 200hp at 5252 rpm will make 457 hp at 12000 rpm. that can not be true. for example if you use a lower rpm, like 2500, to use in the equation you would get 95 hp. idk if that is a reasonalble number, but if an engine was turbo it would def not have the same power at 2500rpm as a SC engine would, or a NA engine. i am not arguing with you, but i never believe something until i understand it.

educate me
A torque curve is not completely linear, so you cannot apply the conversion equation as if it were a linear equation (which is what your logic is suggesting).

By saying: if 200 HP @ 5252 RPM, then 457 HP @ 12000 RPM, you're suggesting that the torque remains 200 for all RPMs and never changes, which would be the linear function: HP = RPM*(200/5252). So plugging in 5252 RPM gives you 200 HP, 12000 RPM gives 457 HP, 2500 RPM gives 95 HP; as you've just done.

Remember, there are 3 variables that have to change, not just the two you were looking at (HP and RPM). You have to take into account that torque values may be different at different RPMs.

Use Mr. Knight's dyno sheet as an example. At 2000 RPMs the TQ is about 155. Using the conversion equation: HP = (RPM*TQ)/5252HP = (2000 RPMs * 155 TQ)/5252HP = 59.02

At 4000 RPMs the TQ is about 215.HP = (4000 RPMs * 215 TQ)/5252HP = 163.75

What you were doing was keeping the TQ value constant for all the RPM values you were using.
Modified by Rich_S14 at 9:04 AM 10/23/2006

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So what is the website to order from? boosthead.com SUCKS. All it comes up with is the ESC. There is a bulletin that says the supercharger kit is available for the 240, but doesn't give a definate price (it says STARTING at $2495), list of components or anything else to make me believe that it is actually there. He said back in July that the new site was going to be ready soon with videos, pics and whatnot, but where is it? I am VERY interested in this setup; I would love to have a SC 240sx, but other than Mr. Knight SAYING it is available, there is no proof. I just want to know where I can check this stuff out with my own eyes. I just feel as though there is something that is not being said.... Also, he says to look in the previous posts for the web address, but if YOU had this product "available" wouldn't you do more to make sure people out there would check it out AND give them a reason to buy it (i.e. pics, list of parts etc...)?? It's not that hard to type in a web address.. I almost feel like a fat person on a treadmill with a piece of cake dangling in front of them, always just out of arms' reach..

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Try shooting him an email if you are interested.

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lostmenoggin wrote:So what is the website to order from? boosthead.com SUCKS. All it comes up with is the ESC. There is a bulletin that says the supercharger kit is available for the 240, but doesn't give a definate price (it says STARTING at $2495), list of components or anything else to make me believe that it is actually there. He said back in July that the new site was going to be ready soon with videos, pics and whatnot, but where is it? I am VERY interested in this setup; I would love to have a SC 240sx, but other than Mr. Knight SAYING it is available, there is no proof. I just want to know where I can check this stuff out with my own eyes. I just feel as though there is something that is not being said.... Also, he says to look in the previous posts for the web address, but if YOU had this product "available" wouldn't you do more to make sure people out there would check it out AND give them a reason to buy it (i.e. pics, list of parts etc...)?? It's not that hard to type in a web address.. I almost feel like a fat person on a treadmill with a piece of cake dangling in front of them, always just out of arms' reach..
The link below is an installation write-up on one of Mr. Knight's SC kits installed by wattydchi and sharjthttp://forums.nicoclub.com/zerothread?id=191876

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I think this is a awesome idea, and cant wait until it becomes a bit more popular...but really.....this is usless without video..........(Pardon me if there is video somewhere that i did not find)

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hey guyz does any one have pics of that blower

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why havent I heard any more stuff about this kit?

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casey240sx wrote:hey guyz does any one have pics of that blower
Just do a search for a Nissan Xterra 3.3L Supercharged V6. That is the one everybody is using. Well, it looks like Nomadtrash maybe getting a little over eager an thinking about using an Eaton M90 instead of the M62.
s13rb25det wrote:why havent I heard any more stuff about this kit?
Not sure. I'm in the process of getting a website front page built and a new forum section opened up. Hopefully, a lot of good information can be gathered and improved upon as a community.

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how much is your kit? thomas knight was charging 789 for his and that's of course not including the sc

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good going for reviving a dead thread thats over a year old

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sigh...............

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this is like... the 3rd one in a few days. theres no hope left.

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I would really like to see a video of the sc in action on a ka24de!

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truckmtr240 wrote:I would really like to see a video of the sc in action on a ka24de!
why??

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truckmtr240 wrote:I would really like to see a video of the sc in action on a ka24de!
This post was entirely worth dragging up a three year old thread.

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Red coupe wrote:This post was entirely worth dragging up a three year old thread.
For me it was. A very informative thread if you can filter out all the bulls***. Even with all my lurking i had not come across this one yet.


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