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Man what the **** is your problem? No one is making you buy this kit. Personaly I would rather spend my money on the Thomas Knight kit than buy the one you linked. I am sure The Snail may be a "genious" I am sure plenty of our own members may could be considered "genious" but I am not about to give them my money without seeing a very polished product or a pryor products that hold the lever of performance/quality I seek. If you like The Snails kit better then go buy it from him. I cannot believe the type of responces that some of you are leaving . Do you talk about turbo kits (like this one http://www.import-autoperforma....html) the same way because "you can make it cheaper"?

So if you dont like this product troll somewhere else.

Oh and here is more word on the kit for you guys.
Thomas Knight wrote:WE WILL HAVE ALL SORTS OF VIDEO AND PICS THIS COMING WEEK. NO NEED TO TOUCH THE FANS, ETC. THEY DONT NEED CHANGING, AND ARE NOT CHANGED ON THIS CAR. NO OTHER MODS WERE NEEDED OR DONE. WE HAD SEVERAL WELL-KNOWN TUNERS FROM THE MIAMI AREA STOP BY DURING THE DYNO RUNS, AND 5 OF THEM COULD NOT FIND THE BLOWER TILL WE POINTED IT OUT TO THEM. IT LOOKS SO FACTORY THAT UPON FIRST GLANCE IT APPEARS STOCK.


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91RMKS13 wrote:Man what the **** is your problem? No one is making you buy this kit. Personaly I would rather spend my money on the Thomas Knight kit than buy the one you linked. I am sure The Snail may be a "genious" I am sure plenty of our own members may could be considered "genious" but I am not about to give them my money without seeing a very polished product or a pryor products that hold the lever of performance/quality I seek. If you like The Snails kit better then go buy it from him. I cannot believe the type of responces that some of you are leaving . Do you talk about turbo kits (like this one http://www.import-autoperforma....html) the same way because "you can make it cheaper"?

So if you dont like this product troll somewhere else.

Oh and here is more word on the kit for you guys.
For $1200 you are retarded.... All people want is cost effective performance not some over rated hoopla, so STFU....LOLZ

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I would prefer a product from a company that has a backround and is doing dyno testing to make sure it works. I want a product that will have quality I expect with the reliability that I already have. And since when is $1200 for 200whp retarded?

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91RMKS13 wrote:And since when is $1200 for 200whp retarded?
Because in actuality it's $1200 for half the parts you need to make 30WHP get it right spilner. There isn't even an ecu upgrade for that equipment.You won't make passed 40WHP with out a completley retuned(mapped )ecu. So great I spend Probably $1700~$1800 for 70WHP, F$^KING great, turbo's still make more power for there convenience.Like I said overrated hoopla. All I came here to do was prove a point of affordability.

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Come on now, guys. We can't all agree on everything all the time, but we don't have to get hostile over it when we don't. Some of us really love the sound of this kit and some of us laugh at it. That isn't going to change, so lets just agree to hold our own opinions and that way everyone can stay happy. Yeah?

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91RMKS13 wrote:I would prefer a product from a company that has a backround and is doing dyno testing to make sure it works.
Who the f%^k has been feeding you B.S your whole life? Mostly every company you have ever seen starts from NOTHING. Hard work and determination to build a name or rep all has to come somewhere, (I am more willing to support the little man that want's to hook me up, so I can allow him to grow as a business, rather than the jerk that claims he's charging me $250 an hour for R&D I could of done if I had a shop to rent at $1000 a month. So stop feeding people the commercial scheme of things

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Vinnie, your opinions are your own, but your statements regarding the properties of the unit are pretty inaccurate, and you're trying to pose them as fact. You're adding very little but Noise and FUD to this thread. Stop making assertations and start asking questions. Don't be contrary "just because".


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obby wrote:Vinnie, your opinions are your own, but your statements regarding the properties of the unit are pretty inaccurate, and you're trying to pose them as fact. You're adding very little but Noise and FUD to this thread. Stop making assertations and start asking questions. Don't be contrary "just because".
Your nothing but noise mister 2 poster.Go back to where you came from.There is no direct proof linked to that unit sold on ebay, so shove it.....

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Welcome to Nico, obby! I promise we're not all usually like that. I hope you'll stick around and give the n00b-haters a chance to get over their childish mannerisms. There is plenty of love elsewhere on Nico.

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benemorius wrote:Welcome to Nico, obby! I promise we're not all usually like that. I hope you'll stick around and give the n00b-haters a chance to get over their childish mannerisms. There is plenty of love elsewhere on Nico.
Childish? I'm the only one waking up this community to the nonesence and propaganda that comes with most of the sponsorships in this place as well as any other forum. I just open up the mind of the consumer, you my friend brainwash, behind all that jolly niceness you want to see the money....IC piping literally cost what.... 70cents a foot, the next jerk off sells it at $5.00 a foot.refurbished/used S/C's $100~$200, the next guy sell it for $600Chinese manufactured side mount intercoolers $100Porting 270cc injectors for 440cc flow $150All you guy's are fed in to the capitalist propaganda of paying the middle man. with a little bit of research you can go to any wholesale outlet and get this stuff cheap.Especially if you have family members that are mechanics everything is whole sale priced and then marked up like a son of a bi*ch.Really I just open up opportunity, I in no way am relating anything as fact, just told it how it is like any business man. I'm not here to play nice, I'm here to tell it like it is.......

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benemorius wrote:Welcome to Nico, obby! I promise we're not all usually like that. I hope you'll stick around and give the n00b-haters a chance to get over their childish mannerisms. There is plenty of love elsewhere on Nico.
Thanks for the warm welcome. Been a long time lurker.
Bigvinnie wrote:Your nothing but noise mister 2 poster.Go back to where you came from.There is no direct proof linked to that unit sold on ebay, so shove it.....
See, there go those assertations again. Vitriolic too. And that's mister *3* poster.
Bigvinnie wrote:Blah blah blah capitalism sucks, that kit is too expensive.
Hooray, welcome back to the special land of opinion. Please keep all hands inside the vehicle at all times, and remember to try and back your opinions up with facts in a sane and polite manner. When re-iterating your opinion please take care to provide something new to accompany it.

Thank you and enjoy your stay.

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Nice 3rd post Mr.3post .

I would say welcome to NICO but since you are a long time lurker im not sure if it is appropriate. Oh well, Welcome to NICO !!!

Also if anyone has any questions about the kit feel free to ask and I will get an answer.

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obby wrote: Been a long time lurker.
You mean troll, I haven't seen any positive advice from you to date.
obby wrote:See, there go those assertations again.
Nope not assertion, merly opinion, since this is a forum....
obby wrote:Hooray, welcome back to the special land of opinion.
HAHA you are weird. Making up quotes and calling it opinion. I never said anything about capitalism sucks, the system in which we live in is just taken advantage of. It's idiots like you that obviously don't understand inflation rates when prices become jacked 3 fold in any given market. Rich get richer you stay broke.

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91RMKS13 wrote:Nice 3rd post Mr.3post .
What are you two holding hands now.... How sweet let me see pics of your wedding.....

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Crap, this thread is close the end of its useful life. It's almost time to break out the...


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Damn is it just me or does every discussion on here about superchargers end up getting locked because of petty bickering? I'm tired of it myself.

We know there are no real pictures yet. - Until I see them I will not buy

We know it has not been released to the public. - When it is I will see how good/bad it is

We know the cost is high. - When I see a finished product I will decide if I want to spend my money on it or if it is worth my money

We know turbo set ups can be pieced together low budget. - If I have to go that way I will, my decision.

I'm pretty sure we all know and consider these things. Many of us are watching to see the outcome of the product. If it is good great. If it is great but too expensive for me oh well, too bad for me. If it sucks we move on. No need to argue all of this as we all know it.

Lets be adults here and not get this and every other supercharger thread locked... I'm tired of waiting for final results just to have the thread locked because people are arguing like little children.

Oh and P.S.Just because someone is a lurker does not mean they are a troll. I personally am an observer most of the time. I read and learn because I love my car and want to know more about it and it's workings. It would be irresponsible for me to give information I am still trying to gain. Once I observe and learn I can share that knowledge... I think alot of members start this way.

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sorry to change the subjest back to superchargers, but do you guys think this would work on a fwd ka? an 94 altima to be exact. i know it would bolt to the motor and all, but would it hit the firwall, or screw up the belt placement? al ways wanted a supercharger for my altima. turbo on the altima is a lot more than 1200 and has many issues for some reason.

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im sure its posible. anybody know if its been tried? btw bigvinne, uve been listening to too much willaim cooper.....not that its a bad thing.

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This kit started out as an Altima kit. I have asked Thamos Knight about him remaking another Altima kit and he says he would not have a problem with it if he were certain there was enough demand for it (I believe he wanted 6 potential customers for it).

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JesusLikesKFC wrote: btw bigvinne, uve been listening to too much willaim cooper.....not that its a bad thing.
I know it's not a bad thing. The man is a free thinker and actually exposes many truths that are covered by lies in our own government, and businesses. He is so paranoid from expossing so many truths that he feels it has threatened the lives of his family.http://www.hourofthetime.com/william.htm

Anyways back on topic. I didn't come here to argue or to say one item is better than another.The Ebay add just has way to many discrepencies. Not enough pics, or detail for that matter.Besides the kit that I showed for $800 was no different than the one on ebay since they both are Eaton blowers. It's mostly based on how the system is devised and it's functionality that matters more to me than anything. Just being a builder (not basing anything off engineering) the simplicity of the kit for $800 just shows more form and function than the kit sold on ebay. there are too many GREY area's. Now fact is I haven't recieved any information directly from the person that put up that ebay add, it's all just hear say. I mean comparatively that system if not even fully functional would be just as good if not better than a Jackson racing super charger. Which Jackson Racing, or Camden has an enormous price tag of over $3500.With out being arguementative there just needs to be actual proof, that means I want to see not only a dyno sheet, I also want a 1/4mile time, and every component needed in providing that power. NO bullshiat.
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That is exactly what I have/will be posting. If you could not tell I have been talking to Thomas Knight and posting his responces I am giving info as I get it. And asking any questions that may arise. In a little bit I will post some pics of the engine bay with the sc installed.

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Thomas Knight wrote:JONATHAN, HERE ARE PICS OF THE INSTALLATION WHEN FIRST TESTED ON THE DYNO. PLEASE NOTE IT IS NOT COMPLETELY FINISHED IN THESE PICS--WE WERE TRYING TO DETERMINE WHERE TO PLACE THE MAF, SO THE LOOM WAS NOT REWRAPPED, AND THE FAN SHROUD WAS NOT RE-INSTALLED. WE DID DYNO RUNS AS IT IS PICTURED WITH THE MAF IN DIFFERENT LOCATIONS TO DETERMINE IF IT MADE MUCH DIFFERENCE--IT DID NOT. EVEN WITH THESE UNFINISHED AREAS, I AM SENDING YOU THESE PICS TO SHOW WHAT A FACTORY LOOKING INSTALLATION IT IS. A VIDEO OF THE CAR DOING SOME DRIFTING, AS WELL AS DYNO RUNS, PICS OF THE CAR DURING THE DYNO SO THE NAY-SAYERS CANT CLAIM FUDGED NUMBERS, ETC ARE COMING NEXT WEEK. A NEW HIGH PERFORMANCE CLUTCH HAS BEEN ORDERED, AND WE WILL BE GOING TO RACE PORT THE BLOWER, ETC AFTER WE HAVE MAXXED OUT THE SETUP AS IT SITS. WE FEEL CONFIDENT THAT ANYONE CAN BOLT ONE ON WITH THR MINOR COMPONENTS NEEDED, AND GET AT LEAST 200HP/200TQ WITH A FLAT POWERBAND FROM 2500-6500 RPM. ONCE A FULLY PORTED UNIT IS INSTALLED AND ALCOHOL INJECTION IS ADDED, WE SHOULD SEE REMARKABLE NUMBERS THAT PROBABLY OUTPERFORM MOST TURBO KITS AT SIMILAR BOOST PRESSURES. GO AHEAD AND POST THEM FOR THE MASSES TO SEE IT IS GENUINE AND FINISHED. ALSO, YOU WILL NOTE THE TBODY IS IN A DIFFERENT LOCATION THAN THE EBAY PICS. THIS WAS PART OF OUR PLAN TO KEEP COPYCATS CONFUSED. ALSO, THOSE WHO HAD CONCERNS ABOUT THE RADIATOR HOSE CAN SEE IT IS FINE, AND THE FANS, ETC ARE ALL ORIGINAL. THE ADAPTER KITS WILL COST $1200, AND COMPLETE KITS ARE $2995. TO THOSE LOSERS OUT THERE WHO CLAIM THEY CAN DO BETTER, GO AHEAD AND TRY. I, THOMAS KNIGHT, DARE YOU TO DESIGN, COMPLETE, PERFECT, AND EVEN COME CLOSE TO MY OWN DESIGN. I HAVE BEEN DOING THIS FOR LONGER THAN YOU HAVE BEEN ALIVE.

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Bigvinnie wrote:
I know it's not a bad thing. The man is a free thinker and actually exposes many truths that are covered by lies in our own government, and businesses. He is so paranoid from expossing so many truths that he feels it has threatened the lives of his family.http://www.hourofthetime.com/william.htm

Anyways back on topic. I didn't come here to argue or to say one item is better than another.The Ebay add just has way to many discrepencies. Not enough pics, or detail for that matter.Besides the kit that I showed for $800 was no different than the one on ebay since they both are Eaton blowers. It's mostly based on how the system is devised and it's functionality that matters more to me than anything. Just being a builder (not basing anything off engineering) the simplicity of the kit for $800 just shows more form and function than the kit sold on ebay. there are too many GREY area's. Now fact is I haven't recieved any information directly from the person that put up that ebay add, it's all just hear say. I mean comparatively that system if not even fully functional would be just as good if not better than a Jackson racing super charger. Which Jackson Racing, or Camden has an enormous price tag of over $3500.With out being arguementative there just needs to be actual proof, that means I want to see not only a dyno sheet, I also want a 1/4mile time, and every component needed in providing that power. NO bullshiat.

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HELLO, THIS IS THOMAS KNIGHT. I DECIDED TO POST A FEW ANSWERS TO THOSE WHO MAY NOT UNDERSTAND WHAT EXACTLY IS MY GOAL IS WITH THESE KITS. I AM NOT INTERESTED IN COMPETING WITH CHEAP TURBO KITS THAT ARE AN ENDLESS SOURCE OF HEADACHE. MANY OF YOU KNOW SOMEONE WITH ONE OR HAVE OWNED A KIT LIKE I AM REFERRING TO. I DONT MEAN SSAUTOCHROME BREAK IN 30 DAYS MANIFOLDS, WITH CHINESE, BRAZILIAN, OR JUNKYARD TURBOS. I AM COMPETING WITH REAL WELL MADE KITS, LIKE A REVHARD MANIFOLD, TURBONETICS TURBO, QUALITY WASTEGATE, QUALITY BOV, QUALITY SPEARCO FMIC, THICK (NOT 22 GAUGE) INTERCOOLER PIPES, ETC. THOSE QUALITY COMPONENTS WILL NOT BE LESS THAN $2K TO BUY, AND A LOT OF TIME TO INSTALL. SOME OF YOU BE;LIEVE WE ARE USING JUNK YARD SUPERCHARGERS. I BUY 30-100 CORES AT A TIME, AND THEN I OVERHAUL THEM TO A LEVEL NONE OF YOU ARE CAPABLE OF DOING. THERE ARE ONLY A HANDFUL OF PEOPLE IN THE WORLD WHO KNOW HOW TO MAKE AN EATON OUTPERFORM A TURBO, AND I LEARNED FROM JERRY MAGNUSON, THE DESIGNER OF MANY EATON UNITS. THERE ARE SECRETS TO MAKING POWER THROUGH PORTING. IT IS A BLACK ART, SIMILAR TO PROPERLY PORTING CYLINDER HEADS. JUST TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA, IT TAKES ME 18 HRS ON A BRIDGEPORT AND HAND POLISHING TO PORT JUST THE EATON HOUSING. WOULD YOU SAY THAT A HEAD PORTED BY JAVIER GUITIRREZ AT JG ENGINE DYNAMICS IS BETTER THAN STOCK? HOW MUCH POWER IS THAT HEAD WORK WORTH? COULD YOU DUPLICATE IT? 99.9% OF YOU CAN NOT. SO PLEASE DONT COMPARE APPLES TO ORANGES.

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I wouldn't bother Mr. Knight, as an owner of a supercharged domestic vehicle, I know for a fact that you can't preach to import owners the benefits of a supercharger vs. a turbo.

This isn't a slam towards import owners, obviously I own one too or I wouldn't be here.

But until recently, overseas aftermarket developers had absolutely no interest in superchargers.

Now, with companies like Mugen jumping into the ring, it shouldn't be long before supercharger kits see more popularity amongst the import scene.

Also, Stillen's been doing this for a long time, it's just now that people are starting to take notice with some of their "commuter car" kits.

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SCMASTER, What would be included in a "complete kit", and what would be needed in addition for the "adapter Kit" to be completed by the end purchaser? I can't keep all this stuff straight. If you don't want to divolge(sp?) that info quite yet, I understand.

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Mr. Knight. I was hoping to ask you a few questions. First off it looks like all of the EGR equipment is removed from the vehicle in the picture, do you know how that effects emissions after the supercharger? Second I read that you used a BIKIROM for tuning, now for us poor unfortunate souls with OBD-II do you plan on developing tuning for us or should we anticipate getting a piggy-back like the Greddy Ultimate? And lastly, how is the pully assembly set up, is it just another pulley put on the crank? Looking forward to seeing the videos and everything!

Actually one more question, the intake pipe, will it clear a strut bar like nismo or do you need to have one of those strut bars that is raised up to clear the pipe?

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Dang...there seems to be some negativity lately...there are ways to be skeptical and stay positive...

Anyways, I love turbos but every rootin' tootin' redneck muscle in my body started twitching when I saw a supercharger for my car, yee haw!Afterall, I drive an iron blocked, low-revving torque monster, so the idea of crazy throttle response makes my Solo 2 bones do the shimmy.

It seems to me I haven't even attempted to design a part for... well anything actually. So keep it up, and maybe one of these days you'll be rewarded with some of my hard earned money in your wallet.

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SCMASTER wrote: THERE ARE SECRETS TO MAKING POWER THROUGH PORTING. IT IS A BLACK ART, SIMILAR TO PROPERLY PORTING CYLINDER HEADS.
FLOWBENCH+AUTOCAD+DREMEL= BLACK ART

What half of the power band do you plan on dropping BTW with all that porting?Belt driven anything is using power that makes degredation which equals loss in power. So decreasing CFM at lower rpm to gain some at the top doesn't make sence to me. Just sounds like more lag at the bottom end especially since there is degredation and load from the belt driven at low RPM.Porting doesn't mean a whole lot of anything unless you have a good ecu tune to back it up.Anyways I hope all works well show me some good dyno numbers and a 1/4mile time.. Best of luck hopefuly you will have a popular product, as long as it's more affordable than camdens version for L series and KA's.

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What would be included in a "complete kit", and what would be needed in addition for the "adapter Kit" to be completed by the end purchaser? I can't keep all this stuff straight. If you don't want to divolge(sp?) that info quite yet, I understand.

THE COMPLETE KIT ($2995) WILL HAVE A RACE PORTED SUPERCHARGER, RACE PORTED UPPER MANIFOLD, RACE PORTED ADAPTER, RACE PORTED THROTTLE BODY ADAPTER, IDLER PULLEY BRACKET, IDLER PULLEY, THROTTLE CABLE BRACKET, AIC AND AAC REMOTE ADAPTERS, BELT, HOSES AND CLAMPS, COLD AIR PIPES & HOSES, MASS AIR ADAPTER, AIR FILTER, OIL FILTER, BOOST GAUGE, A/F GAUGE, FUEL SYSTEM (EITHER LARGER INJECTGORS WITH AN SAFC, OR DAUGHTERBOARD ECU, OR ADDITIONAL INJECTORS AND AIC). THE ADAPTER KIT INCLUDES THE STANDARD SUPERCHARGER ADAPTER, STANDARD SUPERCHARGER ADAPTER, THROTTLE BODY ADAPTER, IDLER PULLEY BRACKET, IDLER PULLEY, THROTTLE CABLE BRACKET, AIC AND AAC REMOTE ADAPTERS, BELT, GASKETS, AND HARDWARE.

Mr. Knight. I was hoping to ask you a few questions. First off it looks like all of the EGR equipment is removed from the vehicle in the picture, do you know how that effects emissions after the supercharger? Second I read that you used a BIKIROM for tuning, now for us poor unfortunate souls with OBD-II do you plan on developing tuning for us or should we anticipate getting a piggy-back like the Greddy Ultimate? And lastly, how is the pully assembly set up, is it just another pulley put on the crank? Looking forward to seeing the videos and everything! Actually one more question, the intake pipe, will it clear a strut bar like nismo or do you need to have one of those strut bars that is raised up to clear the pipe?

THE EGR IS REMOVED (AS IT IS IN 90% OF THE CASES IN MIAMI), BUT IT CAN BE UTILIZED WITH THE SIMPLE TASK OF ASKING FOR AN EGR ADAPTER AS WE HAVE THE CNC PROGRAM FOR IT, AND THEN TRIMMING THE EGR TUBE OR REPLACING IT WITH A SECTION OF FLEXIBLE STEEL PIPE LIKE WHAT IS USED ON PROPANE TANK ADAPTERS (AVAILABLE AT HOME DEPOT). OBD2 CARS WOULD NEED ADDITIONAL INJECTORS PLACED BEFORE THE THROTTLE BODY AND AN AIC TO OPERATE THEM, OR THE S14 UPPER MODIFIED FOR FOUR EXTRA INJECTORS AND THE AIC. TDR AND MOST OTHER AFTERMARKET EATON MAKERS HAVE ALL SWITCHED TO ADDITIONAL INJECTORS AS THEY ARE ISOLATED FROM THE ECU, ARE SELF-SUPPORTING, AND EASY TO TUNE. MY EXPERIENCE WITH OBD2 IS SOMEWHAT FRUSTRATING WHEN ADDING LARGER INJECTORS AND A MODDED ECU. CODES FLY FROM THE ECU AT ALARMING RATES. SO MY FAVORITE WAY IS EXTRA INJECTORS. THE BELT FROM THE ALTERNATOR ROUTES AROUND THE TENSIONER, OVER THE SC, AND BACK TO THE CRANK PULLEY. VERY SIMPLE AS MOST OF MY DESIGNS ARE. STANDARD BELTS FROM ANY AUTO STORE ARE AVAILABLE. NOT SURE ON THE STRUT TOWER BRACE. THE THROTTLE BODY FACES UP, SO A CUSTOM LOW PROFILE BANJO-STYLE INLET HAT WOULD ALLOW FOR THE BRACE IN THE WORST CASE SCENARIO.

Dang...there seems to be some negativity lately...there are ways to be skeptical and stay positive...

MANY TURBO GUYS HATE SC'S, YET MOST SC GUYS USUALLY DONT CRITICIZE TURBOS. IT IS A SIMPLE PSYCHOLOGICAL PHENOMENON KNOWN AS BOOST RESPONSE ENVY. SIMILAR TO PENILE ENVY, ONLY AIMED AT SC GUYS :-)

Anyways, I love turbos but every rootin' tootin' redneck muscle in my body started twitching when I saw a supercharger for my car, yee haw!Afterall, I drive an iron blocked, low-revving torque monster, so the idea of crazy throttle response makes my Solo 2 bones do the shimmy.

YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT TORQUE IS WORTH. MOST TURBO GUYS DONT(REMEMBER, I DID STRICTLY TURBOS FROM 1975 TO 1998)

It seems to me I haven't even attempted to design a part for... well anything actually. So keep it up, and maybe one of these days you'll be rewarded with some of my hard earned money in your wallet.

NOT EVERYONE DESIGNS THINGS. IT IS THOSE WHO DON'T DESIGN SQUAT AND THEN ***** THAT KILL ME!!! KIND OF LIKE LIBERALS--DONT DO DIDDLY AND BLAME EVERYONE ELSE.

FLOWBENCH+AUTOCAD+DREMEL= BLACK ART

NO--KNOWING WHERE TO ADD MATERIAL, WHERE TO RADIUS, WHERE TO REMOVE MATERIAL IS THE ART. FLOWBENCHES DONT HELP BECAUSE THE STANDARD VACUUM READING OF 30" CANT BE USED WITH THE ROTORS STATIONARY, AND THE DIFFERENT ROTOR RPM WOULD AFFECT DIFFERENT VACUUM AND FLOW-LOSS READINGS. IN A SIMILAR MISCONCEPTION, THAT IS WHY READING A TURBO'S FLOW MAP IS ONLY HALF THE EQUATION. YOU MUST THEN KNOW WHAT A/R YOU ARE USING TO TRULY CALCULATE A TURBO'S CORRECT MAP. SAME GOES FOR A ROOTS TYPE. ADD THE 60 DEGREE HELIX AND IS MAKES IT MORE DIFFICULT. ONLY EXPERIENCE MATTERS.

What half of the power band do you plan on dropping BTW with all that porting?Belt driven anything is using power that makes degredation which equals loss in power. So decreasing CFM at lower rpm to gain some at the top doesn't make sence to me. Just sounds like more lag at the bottom end especially since there is degredation and load from the belt driven at low RPM.Porting doesn't mean a whole lot of anything unless you have a good ecu tune to back it up.Anyways I hope all works well show me some good dyno numbers and a 1/4mile time.. Best of luck hopefuly you will have a popular product, as long as it's more affordable than camdens version for L series and KA's.

YOU ARE MAKING THE WRONG ASSUMPTION. IN AN ENGINE CYLINDER HEAD, PORTING INCREASES FLOW, BUT REDUCES VELOCITY DUE TO LARGER PORT VOLUME. THE VOLUMETRIC EFFICIENCY OF THE ENGINE INCREASES AND THE POWERBAND MOVES UP THE RPM SCALE. ON A ROOTS BLOWER, THE EXACT OPPOSITE OCCURS. BECAUSE THE RESTRICTIONS WHICH NORMALLY SLOW DOWN THE AIRFLOW--IE THE SHARP EDGES AND REVERSION POCKETS ARE ELIMINATED--THIS ENDS UP RAISING THE ADIABATIC EFFICIENCY AS WELL AS THE VE OF THE BLOWER. THIS CAUSES GREATER FLOW AT LOWER RPM, THE OPPOSITE OF YOUR THOUGHTS. AS AE INCREASES THE CRANK LOSSES DECREASE SO LESS POWER IS USED TO TURN THE BLOWER.

SOME DAY SOON I WILL PROVE TO YOU THROUGH PHYSICS WHY A SUPERCHARGER WILL MAKE MORE USABLE HP THAN A TURBO UP TO ABOUT 14 PSI. AFTER THAT POINT, THE TURBO WINS. SO FOR 99.9% OF STREET VEHICLES, THE SC IS FAR BETTER. ASK YOURSELF THIS QUESTION: IF PEAK HP IS SO IMPORTANT, WHY WILL A STOCK 200HP 5.0 'STANG ENGINE DROPPED INTO A 240SX SPANK A KA24DE MAKING 240HP ON THE DYNO? THE ANSWRER IS TORQUE. TORQUE ACCELLERATES A VEHICLE, WHILE HP IS GENERALLY FOR TOP SPEED. THE FORMULAS ARE IDENTICAL EXCEPT THE CROSSOVER OCCURS AT 5250RPM IN THE FORMULA. DO YOU SPEND MORE RPM ABOVE OR BELOW 5250RPM?

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what does a "complete kit" consist of? is it just pulleys, supercharger,hoses, custom brackets,etc? does it come with any type of engine management and injectors.? or would it cost another $2000 + the "complete kit" details please!!! I am very interested


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