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i was going to get k-sports for mine (still might get them) but for about another $100 i can get apex coils

which of the 2 are better for lowering+driting+dd+road racing, all in one

are these better (of corse they are) and how low can they go?

http://enjukuracing.com/stance...2_104


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after all the negative things being said about k sport how can you still consider them? especially with other reputable name brands being barely more expensive

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Hey iam gona suggest stance gr+ i have them and iam very pleased!

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Tein SuperDrifts with Hypercoil springs.

Unf.

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Just for reference I got my Tanabe coils shipped to my door for 725...cheaper than the gay-sports.

I'm with WC, I don't know why anyone is still considering them after everything that has been said here.

ddgsxr504, my comment about the coils isn't aimed at you, I'm just letting the OP and other future coil buyers know that the Tanabes are more reputable and I got them cheaper that the K-sports. Glad to hear they are working out for you.

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Chris28 wrote:Just for reference I got my Tanabe coils shipped to my door for 725...cheaper than the gay-sports.

I'm with WC, I don't know why anyone is still considering them after everything that has been said here.

ddgsxr504, my comment about the coils isn't aimed at you, I'm just letting the OP and other future coil buyers know that the Tanabes are more reputable and I got them cheaper that the K-sports. Glad to hear they are working out for you.
Oh sh*t whatever man, I know they suck but for the price they perform way better than any spring/strut combo would. They actually corner nice it's just the dampening sucks so the road bounce is very abundant and noticeable.

Tanabe makes nice ish, I want their anti-sway bars. Which Tanabes did you get? I was looking at buying the SOC-II but they didn't have the height adjustability I wanted.

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i agree with ddgsxr, i have k sport coilovers, corning is good but the dampening sucks. i have had them for close to 2 years and no signs of leaking so atleast there holding up....My friend has billstein coilovers in his vw and these things have the most superb feel i ever felt.

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^ what setting is your dampening at?

my cars almost done so i could actually drive it and test these out


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BC makes some great coils (they make Stance but make their dampers thicker) a lot of the suby guys run them and love them.....i came from tein super drifts and can honestly say that these are better

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you want good grip: kw variant 3 done.

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bilstein is the s***...

I wish they made them for s13

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yes i was thinking kws too after seeing their motrsports pedigree. so now i have one question. I know both perform, but which one is lighter? they are both durable, both are great for grip. now its a factor of unsprung weight.

So yes people. the showdown now is kw vs JIC, stop voting megans its not happening. hks doesnt make the hipermax 3 for 240sx as far as im aware, i dont want the drift coils, tanabes and stance are nice, but they are twin tube designs meaning they are heavier. i believe the variant threes use montube dampers as well. so ya its JIC vs KW vs Cusco mind you the Cuscos are pretty damn expensive too.

oh and greddys are now too expensive so they are not an option.

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+1 for Ohlins! You did say you were willing to spend big bucks once...

As far as K Sports handling better than any spring/strut combo, that is terribly wrong. How could you possibly say that a cheap coilover is better than a strut? Because it has a height adjustment?Valving, valving, valving. Basing your purchase on the amount of drop or the cheapest prices is just plain stupid.

Drift, road racing, auto-x, and street are four different criteria that require four different types of suspension. You may get one, but you'll have to compromise on all the others.
Modified by Cone Junky at 1:16 PM 2/20/2009

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are the ohlins under 2500? thats my cap.

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I paid $1500 for a used set with SWIFT springs and TEIN pillowball mounts, so I am sure they go for more than $2500 new. But I guess that all depends on the retailer and the hardware that comes with them.

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I Daily PBM.

Its really not that bad unless you are a pansy, its a 240sx not a bmw.

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well cuz i know mine's likes to use ohlins dampers, they must perform good. but im not spending more than 2500. im actually seeing if i can stay around 2 grand which im pretty sure is a good budget to get me some good coilovers.

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Has anyone tried Enduratech, I was thinking about buying them.

http://www.endura-tech.com/pro...ey=14

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they seem good. but i have yet to see proof of their performance in any serious grip situation. JIC has set some nice records with their s15, KW has set records in god knows how many race series. I know they run in world challenge gt cars, and I know 2 cars in the alms series that use KW. and their rep in time attack seems pretty good. Cusco. Hell their Zerosports sti nearly broke the hks ct230r buttonwillow time, and they did pretty damn good in the Super gt series. the endura techs gotta prove themselves before i buy into them.

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Smart man 1500+ is a lot to drop on suspension that I haven't heard of neone running yet......at least k sports have a reputation for being garbage
ztunelover wrote:they seem good. but i have yet to see proof of their performance in any serious grip situation. JIC has set some nice records with their s15, KW has set records in god knows how many race series. I know they run in world challenge gt cars, and I know 2 cars in the alms series that use KW. and their rep in time attack seems pretty good. Cusco. Hell their Zerosports sti nearly broke the hks ct230r buttonwillow time, and they did pretty damn good in the Super gt series. the endura techs gotta prove themselves before i buy into them.

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Chris28 wrote:K Sport is more like Gay Sport.

They "suck" and will "blow" in less than 6 months. Guaranteed.


i second this. a guy on CL in my area has been trying to get rid of a set of ksports for ever for 200$, cause they are blown. he claims ksport will fix em for $100 but nobody is buying em.

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For $1200 you can get Ground Controls and Koni's, and although you won't have 80 million adjustments you'll probably get a better street setup than most similar priced coilover setups.

Nice thing about Koni's is you could send them off within the USA to get re-valved for whatever your application was.

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TannerDanger wrote:

i second this. a guy on CL in my area has been trying to get rid of a set of ksports for ever for 200$, cause they are blown. he claims ksport will fix em for $100 but nobody is buying em.
He should sell them here, $300 for "decent" coilovers is an awesome deal.

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but i also need it to perform on the track. the konis would be perfect if i didnt track the car. tracking the car is gonna give me important info. like i said in my other thread about the engine this car is a test mule before the r32 comes out. i will get some setup experience out of this and track familiarity. so while this wont be as crazy as the 32 it would still need to perform on the track.

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ztunelover wrote:but i also need it to perform on the track. the konis would be perfect if i didnt track the car. tracking the car is gonna give me important info. like i said in my other thread about the engine this car is a test mule before the r32 comes out. i will get some setup experience out of this and track familiarity. so while this wont be as crazy as the 32 it would still need to perform on the track.
Why would koni's not be good at the track?

Read this article,

http://farnorthracing.com/autocross_secrets6.html

This was taken from the this ^^^ site

" Buying Shocks Remember this list:

Bilstein Penske Koni Ohlins Sachs Dynamic Suspension Not on this list? Almost certainly crap.

Perhaps I should elaborate a little.

For a while, I was the shock engineer for a race team, and was designing, building, and rebuilding shock packages for customers. A big part of this service was running customer shocks on the dyno to set a baseline for where they were currently at. I dynoed a couple of hundred shocks, representing the spread of almost every shock brand extant. "

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I was trying to find that link earlier today (at work). I keep this link bookmarked at home. More information than you need to know about shocks

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yeah, its def. a good site for suspension.

It amazes me why the koni yellow/ground control sort of has a bad rep. All the hardcore auto-X people race about koni yellow/ground control setup. Koni's are great on the shock dyno (try a ksport and see how it does on the shock dyno, its not pretty) Tons of R&D into making koni yellows. Many track enthuiasts would take the koni yellow setup over tein, cusco, stance, etc. etc. Then when your off the track the koni's ride super smooth compared to most coilover setup. They ride much smoother than my apexi world sport coilovers which are a basic coilover to begin with.

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Lots of recommendations going on.

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i love my stance GR+'s

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megan racing or form and function ftw


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