CHATROOM: MPG 1st & 2nd Gen

[jrod106]

2nd Fill Up - 373.8 miles / 15.69 gallons = 23.82 mpg (this is a little better than last tank although more highway miles this time)

2010 Rogue S360 AWD
Roughly 60% Highway miles / 40% city miles
Temps outsided were 85-90 (mornings have been a little cooler so AC wasn't on as much as last tank)
Average hwy mph roughly 65-70
Average city mph roughly 35-40

[philipp2]

~6,500 miles on my '10 Rogue 360
Mostly hwy (70 mph) and some town (stop & go),
3 adults on board,

15.8 gal (almost empty) and 405 miles = 26.6 mpg

[daytrippr]

We recently returned from our 2500 mile trip to Yellowstone. The trip included freeway cruising from between 75 and 80 (Montana), up and down passes up to 8500 feet, much driving around the park with a speed limit of 45 (usually much slower due to Buffalo gawkers, etc). I used 2 tanks of gas with 88 octane other than my usual 87 as Montana's reegular is 85 and I didn't want to trust that in my Rogue going up over the passes and at altitude.

Total trip gas mileage: 29.9!

PS, I noticed that since we got our CVT software fix, we get better mileage at highway speeds and worse around town.

[casperfun]

Just went to DC used approximately half a tank. If I go by the trip computer, it tells me I would be getting around 410-430 mpg on a tank. I drove 70-80mph with air conditioner on low. Beginning of trip I reset the computer. It started at 34 mpg and slowly went to around 26.3 at end of trip. This is very unscientific and I am going by feel.

[TonyN]

PS, I noticed that since we got our CVT software fix, we get better mileage at highway speeds and worse around town.

My MPG went the other way after the CVT replacement my City MPG went from 23-25 to 27-28mph, highway seems to be seaching the RPM mores so MPG went down 1MPG

[morselicious]

I have a 2008, SL AWD, bought in Nov 2007. I have 111,000 miles on it. Yesterday drove the whole tank out, 400 mi. Got 26.5 mi gal. It isn't consistant milage all the time but I love the ride and handling. I use 87 octane consistantly never any high test. I did have the CVT changed out at 98,000 mi

[TonyN]

update..
I am getting between 27.6 and 28.4 mph.
Mileage reset when I fill up and divide the mileage by the amount of gas put in.

[johonjoseph]

Hey Guys..! i dont own a Nissan Rogue but seriously planning to get one after reading this thread...i calculated my fuel expense and see a drastic fall in it :-)

[salle071]

Rougue SL AWD. Location western Canada, flat as a pizza pan. Temperatures range from -10C to -25C. Driving surface frozen, packed snow, ice. Winter tires on car with 33PSI. Strictly city driving, some open road with 80-90kmh speeds. Not too much warming up, 5 minutes max. Computer is showing 14L/100 km or about 16mpg. This is the Rogue that had knocking in engine and had a new one installed few weeks ago.

I am not sure how CVT is supposed to behave. Driving from cold, it keeps RPM around 2000 - 2500, less when coasting. After few minutes it warms up and it drops it down to around 1200 rpm. Gentle acceleration does not get the rpm up, it sticks to about 1500 and stays there. I have to go over half throttle, and it will eventually rev up to 2500 - 3000, even that will take 3-4 seconds of pedal down. Is this how it is supposed to behave? I am not sure that low rpm is actually optimal operating range. I can drive around if not accelerating briskly and it will never go over 1500. Perhaps I should drive a loaner and compare. Replies welcome.

[jrr]

Rogue SL AWD CVT in Va. Less than 1K miles and wife is crying with 15mpg in around town driving. Her 2010 Subaru Outback got 23mpg. Like Salle mine behaves very similar. Someone tell it will get better please

[Debbie C]

After reading this thread, I am not sure if I want to cry or hit something. I've had a 2011 Nissan Rogue AWD for one month. I am on the third tank of gas and with each tank, the mpg has worsened. I drive approximately 70% highway and most of that is with cruise control on. MPG first tank was 22.2. Second = 21.7 Third looks like it will end up being 21.5

I called the service department and they said that was within the mpg estimate on the sticker. I replied that mpg for city was 22 and I wasn't even getting THAT for mostly highway driving. He said that below that 22, the sticker says "18 to 22" for city. What?? He said there was nothing they could do about the poor mpg. This sucks. The mpg was a selling point for me and I am disgusted. I see there are a couple of other posts with similar mpgs as mine while the majority are FAR better. As I said, disgusted.

Does anyone have any info on why a few of use would be getting such a different mpg? Is some adjustment needed?

[Pescakl1]

Does anyone have any info on why a few of use would be getting such a different mpg? Is some adjustment needed?

The best adjustment you can do is about at your right foot level. The other important one is between your ears.

Change your way to drive and you will get what we get.

There is no miracle, this is just physic laws at work.

[Debbie C]

The best adjustment you can do is about at your right foot level. The other important one is between your ears.

Change your way to drive and you will get what we get.

There is no miracle, this is just physic laws at work.

Pescakl1, I do not find that in the least helpful I'm not stupid. I drive conservatively, use cruise control whenever possible and obey speed limits. I don't do jack rabbit starts, heavy foot driving or drag racing. This car is not getting what it was purported to nor what others on this forum have posted.

[kerrton]

After reading this thread, I am not sure if I want to cry or hit something. I've had a 2011 Nissan Rogue AWD for one month. I am on the third tank of gas and with each tank, the mpg has worsened. I drive approximately 70% highway and most of that is with cruise control on. MPG first tank was 22.2. Second = 21.7 Third looks like it will end up being 21.5

I called the service department and they said that was within the mpg estimate on the sticker. I replied that mpg for city was 22 and I wasn't even getting THAT for mostly highway driving. He said that below that 22, the sticker says "18 to 22" for city. What?? He said there was nothing they could do about the poor mpg. This sucks. The mpg was a selling point for me and I am disgusted. I see there are a couple of other posts with similar mpgs as mine while the majority are FAR better. As I said, disgusted.

Does anyone have any info on why a few of use would be getting such a different mpg? Is some adjustment needed?

Debbie, your Rogue is still very new and not yet broken-in yet, your mileage will likely increase substantially as the engine breaks in. It's worthwhile reading the section in your owners manual on "Engine Break-in" to make sure you do everything you can to ensure a proper break in and optimize your new vehicle. Follow the break-in procedure carefully for a few months and then re-check your gas mileage, I'm sure you'll see a significant improvement. I'd also recommend reading the thread on this forum titled "Engine Break In", which you can access from the glossary/index. Also, if you live in an area with cold winter weather this will really reduce your mpg's as well.

Good luck and please report back to us after you've put a few thousand miles on your car!!

[philipa_240sx]

Does anyone have any info on why a few of use would be getting such a different mpg? Is some adjustment needed?

The best adjustment you can do is about at your right foot level. The other important one is between your ears.

Change your way to drive and you will get what we get.

There is no miracle, this is just physic laws at work.

Keep in mind we all drive very differently. I'll use myself as an example:

I drive 80% rural roads at 50-55mph. The remaining 20% is light city driving. I routinely average 28-30mpg during the summer. I have a fairly light right foot (most of the time) and the roads I drive are very flat.

My wife drives a Mazda Protege. She has a lead foot, drives 60% in the city and 40% hwy, but her car is lighter and has a smaller 2.0L engine. Guess what? Her car is harder on gas than my Rogue!

[philipa_240sx]

Good luck and please report back to us after you've put a few thousand miles on your car!!

You need to get at least + 3000 miles before the engine/transmission is fully broken in. During this period, the best thing you can do IS NOT use the cruise control. Constant speeds are about the worst for engine break in, it may also slow the self calibration process of the engine and CVT computers.

Instead, you want to vary the engine rpm and vehicle speed as much as possible. City driving is about ideal for engine break in. Avoid long stretches on the highway & constant speeds... keep them to a minimum.

My first few tankfuls of gas yielded dismal fuel economy too. But it gradually improved. Hang in there!

[Pescakl1]

Keep in mind we all drive very differently.

That is exactly what I was saying: You want better fuel economy, change your way to drive.

Doing 80% highway, she is getting the same fuel economy I am doing with 100% city, really short trips (less than 20 kms/day).
That is definitively not all the car fault.

[bokito]

OK, we've had 2008 AWD SL rogue for over a month now.
Computer calculated mileage has been hovering at 14.4L/100km(100% city driving).

So, i finally did the test and filled it up with the gas all the way and just did re-fueling yesterdary.
My numbers are: 372KM traveled, consumed 58L of gas = 15.6 liters per 100km or 15.1 miles per US gallon
Outside temps are at around -9 C average(few day was -20C to - 11 C)

[PlatinumGraphite]

I decided to start my test for real milage by using non ethanol gas. Not sure if this has been discussed before, or how anyone feels about this subject, but after filling my tank, on the drive home it got over the 31 mpg mark on the gauge. I have consistantly been getting 25.4 average since purchasing the car new in December. I think the most was 26.7 on the first day of purchase. I read somewhere to expect a slight difference in milage, but this was a pretty significant difference that I wasn't expecting. Can't wait to see how it averages out.

[Hank O]

Hi everyone , I'm new to this , but found the website , and am impressed with all the different forums , and the variety of issues . Anyway , I have a 2010 SL AWD , and since I purchased it September 2010 have averaged about 23-24 MPG overall . I am very satisfied with the vehicle , but I guess I expected etter mileage , as I drive 25 miles to work daily on the PA tnpke , with some city driving .
I have recorded 28-29 MPG on trips averaging 200-300 miles . Have put on 8,000 miles on the car . Love it , and I'm a BIG guy .

[DC_Rogue]

OK, so I am about to turn 7,000 miles on my 2010 Rogue S- I would say about 90% of those miles are all city driving.
I mean the worst of it to- rush hour, stop and go, block by block stop signs...

I am averaging about 19MPG- sometimes a bit more, but on average, 19.

I'm happy with it, my other cars that we smaller were getting about the same MPG's. I can normally go about 2 weeks before I have to fill up again (about 250-ish miles).

I'm going in for an oil change at the end of the month!

[Apriliaboy]

OK, so I am about to turn 7,000 miles on my 2010 Rogue S- I would say about 90% of those miles are all city driving.
I mean the worst of it to- rush hour, stop and go, block by block stop signs...

I am averaging about 19MPG- sometimes a bit more, but on average, 19.

I'm happy with it, my other cars that we smaller were getting about the same MPG's. I can normally go about 2 weeks before I have to fill up again (about 250-ish miles).

I'm going in for an oil change at the end of the month!

I drive In the same enviroment. I have an SL with 50 k miles on it I'm getting 18 mpg at best. . I'm have to say I'm disappointed. 2002 x type jaguar got 17 mpg, 2000 BMW 328i (manual) got 21 mpg. .....average speed is 15 mph not that that tells us much other than west LA traffic sucks. If I drive the way I'd like to drive I go down below 16 mpg!

I love the ride and handling ..I actually enjoy driving it way more than i thought i would. Just was hoping for much better on the gas milage....

[johny_maple]

2011 Rogue S, FWD. Just under 1 100km, all winter driving (natch), mostly in town with the odd run down the 403. Today's fill-up: # of litres and kilometre-age calculates out to 12.95L/100km. Car running very well and we're really enjoying it. No problems getting use to the CVT. It's actually kind of a neat feeling. I just hope it doesn't disappoint re: longevity.

j_m

[jrr]

Posted a few months ago re the bad MPG, just filled it up and got 17.5 mpg. My wife drives the car and its about 99% city. Her prior car was a 2010 Outback 2.5 with CVT and she was averaging 24mpg. Same woman, same circuits, same gas station. Her OB had 4700 when they bought it back after 12 months. She is no newbie to CVT driving. She never goes over the speed limit.

The limited time I drive it, the CVT seems to stick up at 3K+ even when feathering the gas peddle, the Subie would quickly drop down to less than 2 K in same situation. Wife's experience is the same. Car has 1500 miles on it after 4 months, understand the break in bit, but not sure how she will pick 5 mpg. Any chance there is an issue with the CVT, don't think it should be staying up in the 3K range all the time. Heck my 400 hp BMW gets 21 mpg around town, and weighs the same.

If this is the expected range, may be time to look for an alternative. Looking for guidance, again she babies the cvt like crazy, so coasting is an alternative I guess [tongue in check].

[epmeyer50]

Posted a few months ago re the bad MPG, just filled it up and got 17.5 mpg. My wife drives the car and its about 99% city. Her prior car was a 2010 Outback 2.5 with CVT and she was averaging 24mpg. Same woman, same circuits, same gas station. Her OB had 4700 when they bought it back after 12 months. She is no newbie to CVT driving. She never goes over the speed limit.

The limited time I drive it, the CVT seems to stick up at 3K+ even when feathering the gas peddle, the Subie would quickly drop down to less than 2 K in same situation. Wife's experience is the same. Car has 1500 miles on it after 4 months, understand the break in bit, but not sure how she will pick 5 mpg. Any chance there is an issue with the CVT, don't think it should be staying up in the 3K range all the time. Heck my 400 hp BMW gets 21 mpg around town, and weighs the same.

If this is the expected range, may be time to look for an alternative. Looking for guidance, again she babies the cvt like crazy, so coasting is an alternative I guess [tongue in check].

If it is stuck at 3000 rpm that would definitely account for the poor mileage. Our '10 Rogue 2WD is averaging 22 mpg with suburban driving (75% city, rest on expressways) and does ~28 if all highway. It normally revs to 2000-3000 when starting out, but quickly drops to about 1500 rpm or less once up to speed in city driving. You might try resetting the computer and let it re-learn.

[Pescakl1]

Quite strange as I never go above 2K rpms, except on the highway where I cruise at about 105 KPH (65 mph) and 2100 rpms.

Even when the engine is cold, I never go above 2000 rpms. I just crawl instead of drive until Coolant temp is above 45 C where the CVT moves to a higher ratio, then I can go faster.

This winter, I have mainly driven in the city (3.5 kms to bring my child to daycare and back) and I averaged 10.5 LHK (22.4 mpg) on tanks. As soon as I drive more than 15 kms, and/or do some errands, the fuel economy goes back to about 28 mpg on these travels.

Since you say your wife knows how to drive a CVT (really easy on the throttle with some pulse and glide some times), he could be a good idea to ask your dealer to get a look at it and may be reset the learning process to start all over again.

[jrr]

Both of you bring up good points. If it wasn't a cvt but rather an automatic, its like sticking in first gear instead of upshifting. A lot of this driving takes place in cold mornings but this morning it stayed at stuck and slowed down when feathered, instead of lowering rpm to match a steady 30-35 mph. Not sure this is making sense. I guess we head off to a dealer. If this is how its suppose to run I will find something a little less thirsty.

[Itaride]

My first post on here. Just bought a 2011 Krom awd, my first 3 fill ups averaged 22.7 mpg. The tank I am on now is better yet (finally warming up a little) so I am very happy with my early results. All mileage is calculated, not the computer read out and most driving is city (computer says I am averaging 24 mph). So far so good!

[paulzoom]

I have a 2010 Rogue SL with just over 10,000 miles and live in the south and drive 60/40 highway/city and can't seem to get over 23 mpg. I drive about 75mph on the highway and do not have a lead foot. Why am I getting such low mileage when others are getting so much better? Should take it in?

[Qashqai]

You need to get at least + 3000 miles before the engine/transmission is fully broken in. During this period [...] Constant speeds are about the worst for engine break in, it may also slow the self calibration process of the engine and CVT computers.
[...]Avoid long stretches on the highway & constant speeds... keep them to a minimum.

Philipa, I know it is a silly question, but I take this "break-in" period very seriously: I drove my Rogue for about 35-40kms on highway for 4-5 times. I tried to vary my speed by changing lanes (on mid lane at 100km/h for 5 minutes, on right lane -behind an old lady - at about 70km/h for 10 minutes, so on) during those trips. Do you think these trips were considered as an "driving on highway?" condition, which is bad during brake-in? :confused What is the limit for "highway driving distance"? is it 10kms? 100kms? or what?

By the way, you are right. I can clearly see the decrease on the average fuel consumption.
1st tank: 15.6lt/100km
2nd tank: 14.8lt/100km
3rd tank: 13.7/100km

Of course it is still winter, below 0 degrees, rear defroster and heater on most of the time and 90% city - which means lots of stop and waits at traffic lights. etc. I am impressed with your 8lt/100km consumption though...