Apple did it again - iPhone 4

[Jesda]

I do business with Jesus Christ, The Queen of England, and Rod Stewart. They all told me personally that the true business phone is the Razr.

[Empty V]

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Apple is nothing but a marketing machine, no more/less better than compaines like BOSE or Monster Cable. I bet 90% of the people that believe that the iPhone 4 is the next best thing since sliced bread believe they need a $200 HDMI cable to utilize 120HZ on their HDTV's, and need speaker wire risers to make sure that the floor doesn't generate interference in their electrical signals....

Yeah there's no Apple haters in here. You posted this same retarded thing in the headphone thread then got flamed and made excuses for say it, and now you're saying it again?

Bose is right up there with Apple in terms of the garbage they churn out and how they are just super effective marketing machines.

Same one line over and over. Do you have experience with a y other electronics manufacturers?

Marlin in a nutshell

[Kompresshun]

I do business with Jesus Christ, The Queen of England, and Rod Stewart. They all told me personally that the true business phone is the Razr.

Razr's FTW

I killed 3 of those phones in one year but I still liked them.

[Empty V]

[...I sincerely hope I don't start seeing more people video chatting on their phones...

It was bound to happen eventually and it's going to be 10x more annoying then you can even imagine.

[IBCoupe]

I'm not sure how that's a function of the phone opposed to the manufactures' carrier choice.

The two aren't really separable. Is an iPhone without an AT&T contract much more than a pretty, expensive paperweight?

[Watermelonwarrior]

We need to get a few things right. Apple has not invented video conferencing for cell phones, not even in a mass-market fashion. The HTC Evo for Sprint, which came out three days ago, has an application called Qik that allows for video conferencing over the cellular network. Apple's Facetime application is restricted to wifi. I'm sure Apple wanted video to work over the cellular network, but was concerned about the quality of service through AT&T. Apple would rather not have a feature at all than have one that performed poorly, which makes sense.

No response to that Empty V?

Second note thank you Jesda. Iv been waiting for someone to say it

[Kompresshun]

[...I sincerely hope I don't start seeing more people video chatting on their phones...

It was bound to happen eventually and it's going to be 10x more annoying then you can even imagine.

Yeah and that'll be the next big thing causing accidents... people trying to video chat on their phones while driving

[flohtingPoint]

Two different worlds my friend, I'm an engineer on contract to the Department of Defense. I do business with the leadership of our military, I need something purposeful and practical with the choice of any cell carrier my given contract pays for.

So a "business oriented phone" is one that's available on multiple carriers? I'm not sure how that's a function of the phone opposed to the manufactures' carrier choice. I do business with the leadership of our military as well and haven't had any issues with my iPhone. Yes I have to leave it in my car if I'm going into certain rooms but they make everyone do that.

Again, two different arenas. Your business is one of pleasure, not necessity. People dont NEED entertainment. My job is all about making sure DoD entities can communicate properly and their networks are stable over three different forms of classification, this is a NEED. You can afford to have whatever phone you want, where as I have to work within my contract's stipulations.

[IBCoupe]

Yeah and that'll be the next big thing causing accidents... people trying to video chat on their phones while driving

Happens all the time in science fiction movies without crashes.

[Empty V]

What do I do when I need to video conference? I don't pick up my Blackberry...I walk down the hall to the video-conference room..

Another valid point. Very few people have access to videoconferencing or telepresence systems, they will now. Your posts are not helping your case. When I need to jump on a telepresence call I've got to coordinate with the other end via phone or email then head down to my display room and turn on the system and get to work. Now you can pull your videoconferencing system out of your pocket.

People like Marlin are the reason why I said "haters" because all they bring is negativity and usually have an extremely shallow POV.

[Empty V]

No response to that Empty V?

Second note thank you Jesda. Iv been waiting for someone to say it

Go back and read. I already commented on how it's only available on wifi, which IMO is a good thing.

[Empty V]

Again, two different arenas. Your business is one of pleasure, not necessity. People dont NEED entertainment. My job is all about making sure DoD entities can communicate properly and their networks are stable over three different forms of classification, this is a NEED. You can afford to have whatever phone you want, where as I have to work within my contract's stipulations.

I also setup extremely large scale videowalls used in rooms from Satellite tracking stations at Schriever AFB and command posts at Charleston AFB to EOC's all over the US. My phone works great for that. Plus I see a lot, not the majority though, of people I work with also using iPhones. So sorry dude saying that if you contract for the govt you can't use and iPone is wrong. Also making it sound like my job is not important is just insulting, so go f*** yourself for that one.

[AppleBonker]

People like Marlin are the reason why I said "haters" because all they bring is negativity and usually have an extremely shallow POV.

How is his point of view any more shallow than that of those who blindly follow Apple?

Also, the comparison to Bose and Monster is incredibly valid. All three have obtained success by being the "in" product or seemingly "top-of-the-line". Fact is, most iPhone users don't care about the specifications of the device, or how it functions. They just want an easy-to-use phone. However, marketing this product requires the elimination of a number of different features that make things difficult on more advanced users. I mean, I can't change the text message ringtone? What if I don't like the six options that are supplied by Apple? What if I want my phone to use the AOL "you've got mail" when I get email? This is basic stuff that just can't be done. Why customize things when you can be just like everyone else?

[Kompresshun]

Yeah and that'll be the next big thing causing accidents... people trying to video chat on their phones while driving

Happens all the time in science fiction movies without crashes.

True, everything should be fine then.

The point I see that's kinda amusing about it is that they just banned texting and e-mailing while operating a vehicle where I live. So I could see that being the next thing they make a law against.

[Empty V]

How is his point of view any more shallow than that of those who blindly follow Apple?

Also, the comparison to Bose and Monster is incredibly valid. All three have obtained success by being the "in" product or seemingly "top-of-the-line". Fact is, most iPhone users don't care about the specifications of the device, or how it functions. They just want an easy-to-use phone. However, marketing this product requires the elimination of a number of different features that make things difficult on more advanced users. I mean, I can't change the text message ringtone? What if I don't like the six options that are supplied by Apple? What if I want my phone to use the AOL "you've got mail" when I get email? This is basic stuff that just can't be done. Why customize things when you can be just like everyone else?

If you're saying I blindly follow apple, I don't. I like their products but there's a lot I don't like. Such as what you just said with the lack of customization. When a text goes off in the airport I see half the room reaching for their phone, it's annoying. I took his point based on what he said in the previous thread regarding apple putting out crap products. Marketing is marketing and they do whatever they can to sell product, I don't blame them for that as we'd all do the same. I'm sure once a musical artist get big he starts hating them as well.

[flohtingPoint]

Again, two different arenas. Your business is one of pleasure, not necessity. People dont NEED entertainment. My job is all about making sure DoD entities can communicate properly and their networks are stable over three different forms of classification, this is a NEED. You can afford to have whatever phone you want, where as I have to work within my contract's stipulations.

I also setup extremely large scale videowalls used in rooms from Satellite tracking stations at Schriever AFB and command posts at Charleston AFB to EOC's all over the US. My phone works great for that. Plus I see a lot, not the majority though, of people I work with also using iPhones. So sorry dude saying that if you contract for the govt you can't use and iPone is wrong. Also making it sound like my job is not important is just insulting, so go f*** yourself for that one.

lol... Like everyone has said, you're taking all this way too personally man...

I didn't say your job wasn't important. My race cars are not a need but they're very important to me.

[numbnuts240]

i'm just here to lol at how defensive people get over such trivial things in life. IT'S A f*** PHONE. WHO GIVES A RAT'S a**?

[Empty V]

lol... Like everyone has said, you're taking all this way too personally man...

I didn't say your job wasn't important. My race cars are not a need but they're very important to me.

I'm not taking what anyone has said personally, except for your last post. Maybe you meant it differently but it came off as "I help the govt communicate so you can stay safe, what you do is unnecessary and trivial." So yeah, that was a personal attack.

[RobPaulson]

lol... Like everyone has said, you're taking all this way too personally man...

I didn't say your job wasn't important. My race cars are not a need but they're very important to me.

I'm not taking what anyone has said personally, except for your last post. Maybe you meant it differently but it came off as "I help the govt communicate so you can stay safe, what you do is unnecessary and trivial." So yeah, that was a personal attack.

Calm down dude.

[AppleBonker]

I took his point based on what he said in the previous thread regarding apple putting out crap products. Marketing is marketing and they do whatever they can to sell product, I don't blame them for that as we'd all do the same. I'm sure once a musical artist get big he starts hating them as well.

If you're going to revert back to posts from other threads, at least make sure you catch the part where he explains himself better:

I meant to say that BOSE and Apple are right up there with being able to sell anything...both are highly effective marketing compaines that can push just about anything on anyone. [...] I am not saying Apple makes crappy products.

And I don't see anything incorrect with this thought process. Will people be lining up for this phone that they haven't even seen yet? I'm sure pre-orders will be insane. And is the phone REALLY that much different than the 3GS? So why do people just have to buy one? I'm going with marketing in force.

[HashiriyaS14]

I'm sure once a musical artist get big he starts hating them as well.

[Empty V]

If you're going to revert back to posts from other threads, at least make sure you catch the part where he explains himself better:

I meant to say that BOSE and Apple are right up there with being able to sell anything...both are highly effective marketing compaines that can push just about anything on anyone. [...] I am not saying Apple makes crappy products.

And I don't see anything incorrect with this thought process. Will people be lining up for this phone that they haven't even seen yet? I'm sure pre-orders will be insane. And is the phone REALLY that much different than the 3GS? So why do people just have to buy one? I'm going with marketing in force.

Saying that they churn out garbage doesn't need any further explanation. He explained what he meant about how they attack their marketing campaigns which I understood perfectly.

[flohtingPoint]

I'm not taking what anyone has said personally, except for your last post. Maybe you meant it differently but it came off as "I help the govt communicate so you can stay safe, what you do is unnecessary and trivial." So yeah, that was a personal attack.

Calm down dude.

Exactly... I just told him I meant nothing of it and his reply was "YEA? WELL I STILL WANT TO BE ANGRY ANYWAY!!!!"

[AppleBonker]

Saying that they churn out garbage doesn't need any further explanation.

Or, maybe he misspoke. That's how it appeared to me.

Either way, the idea that they could put out an average product and have it sell well is not far-fetched. If I can get a similar or better phone for the same price or cheaper, "garbage" might be a harsh word to use, but isn't too out of line, IMO.

[Jesda]

YALL NIGGAS MAD

PUTTIN THEM PHONES ON A PEDAL STOOL

[RobPaulson]

call da amber lamps y0. amberlamps.

[marlin29311]

Now you can pull your videoconferencing system out of your pocket.

People like Marlin are the reason why I said "haters" because all they bring is negativity and usually have an extremely shallow POV.

Nice try fanboi.

Can you connect to anything but another iPhone 4? Nope. So unless your entire network of coworkers and business partners run on iPhone 4's, this doesn't work. Not to mention you're not going to be doing any video conferencing from the gas station off I-95, telling your boss about why you're late.

[marlin29311]

If you're going to revert back to posts from other threads, at least make sure you catch the part where he explains himself better:
And I don't see anything incorrect with this thought process. Will people be lining up for this phone that they haven't even seen yet? I'm sure pre-orders will be insane. And is the phone REALLY that much different than the 3GS? So why do people just have to buy one? I'm going with marketing in force.

Saying that they churn out garbage doesn't need any further explanation. He explained what he meant about how they attack their marketing campaigns which I understood perfectly.

Dude, I made an error on my first sentence...chill out - I came back and corrected my stance. I've never said that Apple makes a crappy/junk product...I like my iPod touch for what it does. My original intent was to compare the fact that BOSE and Apple are both highly effective at marketing. The fact that you are acting like a 10 year old girl who just had a lollipop taken from her shows your amount of maturity in this situation.

[marlin29311]

This just in - Empty V posts iPhone 4 super thread, gets butthurt after being told off by various users.

News at 11.

Apple is nothing but a marketing machine, no more/less better than compaines like BOSE or Monster Cable. I bet 90% of the people that believe that the iPhone 4 is the next best thing since sliced bread believe they need a $200 HDMI cable to utilize 120HZ on their HDTV's, and need speaker wire risers to make sure that the floor doesn't generate interference in their electrical signals....

Yeah there's no Apple haters in here. You posted this same retarded thing in the headphone thread then got flamed and made excuses for say it, and now you're saying it again?

Bose is right up there with Apple in terms of the garbage they churn out and how they are just super effective marketing machines.

Same one line over and over. Do you have experience with a y other electronics manufacturers?

If you'd like me to add Samsung to the list, I'd be happy to do that too, but no one has asked.

I never made excuses...I stand by my final statement that BOSE and Apple are highly effective marketing compaines. A sentence came out wrong, and now you're casting this "Marlin hates trendy tech" cloud over me. Grow up.

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