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martins_240sx
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the block was decked, not sure if it was square decked, and it waas milled, remeber them saying it didnt need that much off. the head was pressure tested. the pistons are arias 8.8-1. the reason i believe the first head gasket blew was because of detonation since my wastegate has a 15lb spring. the second and third time is the cometics fault. if i have a problem with this headgasket then I will be scratching my head. it was leaking exhaust into a water jacket both times on the cometic and blew the ring on the gasket from around the cylinder the felpro one(detonation?)


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240sxmech
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If you had detonation you would here a pinging noise on acceleration. The reason it blew the fire ring is probably from to much boost. This is my advice and you can take it or leave it(no hard feelings). When you get this back together with the new head gasket , drive the car for a good 500 miles or more with no or as little as possible boost; i mean like 2 maybe 3 pounds and DO not get on it hard, no constant speed driving and change rpm's often , no staying at one speed for prolonged times. This will let everything seat. Also did you berak the motor in properly when you firts fired it up? I mean run it at around 2grand for about twenty minutes and everyso often gooses the gas from 2 to around 4 thousand and back to 2. Then after you have broken the motor in make sure your air fuel ratios are were they are supposed to be and then take it to the dyno. If you need any help with it let me know I plan on coming down to pendleton probably this weekend or next and hanging with friends. You would know if they square decked the block because it is extra money than just a regular resurface. From what it sounds like you have done everything right but you got a little anxious with the dyno portion of it. You never told me what your timing is at either, very important sonce you went turbo.

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240sxmech
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You can also put a thin coat of silicon around the water jacket on the head gasket to get a better seal, they might of done a ****ty job on resurfacing your block and your head, take a straight edge to the both when you have it apart.

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martins_240sx
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I definetly did not plan on hot rodding it when I first get it back. the steps you described are pretty much exactly the same as I intended to do. as for the pre break in, 2 grand 20 min, yes. he does this all the time. he is always checking the afrs. I will be leaving out to escondido in a few mins to start the headgasket, Im pretty positive this is going to fix it.

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martins_240sx
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okay head is off. I would like to say **** DRIFT TECH, **** em. they are nothing but liars. " oh yes we cleaned everything and applied the copper permatex stuff." bull**** the head came off and there was nothing. just gasket residue from the felpro one. they are the worst ****ing shop Ive ever been two. where is my oddessy batterie that i bout 3 months ago. oh my bad didnt think you wanted it. wheres my boost controller, oh I dont know. wheres my 10-12 lb wastegat spring, oh I dont know. and i pushed gaskets most likely because the head dowels, the ones that line up the gasket and the head bolts go through where pushed all the way into the head cause they werent the right ****ing ones. so I need to find those, anyone know where to get them? im going to call nissan monday and go to the shop that machined the head and block to see if they have a pair.

but anyways the head and block where checked for flatness and they are perfect. i will be waiting for these dowels and a wastegate spring to get it back on the dyno.

DRIFT TECH sucks!!!!!!!!!!

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gizzerd
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Dang man. I can't believe I didn't see this thread until now. I'm pretty sure I have seen pics of your car on ka-t. Either way, it's a killer build you have goin, it's just too bad you are having all this trouble! Sound's like that shop has really screwed you over! I too am a ka24e-t owner, and I have to say that once you get past all this crap, and really get to run it and enjoy it, you are gonna love it! Good luck and I hope everything works out!


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240sxmech
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Damn bro sorry to hear that but i knew there was something else causing that problem .like i said head gaskets just dont go out that soon. So let me get it straight they didnt even put a new head gasket on there, they just put your head back on, and then ran it? give me a holla 619 301 8840 scott... do not put it back on the dyno till you get miles on the engine bro, trust me

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martins_240sx
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No they changed the headgasket but didnt clean the block or head. when i removed the head there was stile gasket from the felpro gasket. and being a cometic gasket it needs a clean perfect surface, and they swore they put the copper spray down on the cometic, they did not. This explains why he sounded all weird when I told him i will be removing the head and fixing the rest of the car...oh and the head dowels pretty much werent working at all since they were installed wrong.

Lessoned learned- I work on big *** military trucks atleast 14 hrs a day and Im more than capable of doing this myself. but in a pinch for time i resorted to the "proffessionals." Dont send your vehicule off to get work done if you can do it yourself. plus it wont take you two weeks to change a headgasket. I had my block naked in about 3 hrs.

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martins_240sx
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oh as for the dynoing I have to put it back on the dyno to get it driveable. Me and the dyno shop discussed that the boost is getting lowered to around 8-10psi for the breakin and then when that is done I can go back to 15-18psi. but as of now the tuning is for drivabilty. aem ems had nothing for a tune so he had to make it.

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240sxmech
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gotcha . sounds like everything is coming together finally.keep us posted

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martins_240sx
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well I hope so, the arp studs on monday wastegate spring wed along with the dowels and wed hopefully it drives home. tried calling this morning but only got your machine.

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Jdmstyles
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nice build. Im amazed at how you have time to work on your car even as a marine.

After im employed i'll start working on my 240 too. After repainting my wheels to the original silver my hatch resembles yours a lot.

and im assuming thats the original navy blue the car came with.

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martins_240sx
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yeah the parts that arent spray painted...alot of the work on the engine was done in my barracks room. and just cause im a marine doesnt mean I have no time, 30days paid vacation, holidays, and usually weekends...unless im in africa or jordan or cold weather training or something crazy.

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Jdmstyles
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I see.

The marines that i know are never back at home most of the time. I see them 3-4 times a year at most. Seems like a busy duty.

Anyway great work on your hatch so far. That coupe is really clean as well

oh btw is your hatch on coils or spring/shock combo? it looks about the same height as mine.

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martins_240sx
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they are meagen track coilovers, and i love em. better than my superdrifts in my opinion.

as for the marines, Ive only been home once this year. but that doesnt always mean Im busy....just dont have enough time to go home.

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Jdmstyles
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Oh. Im guessing that set up is for DD'ing then? id like to see it slammed ;]

Im planning to get megan street coilovers regardless of the criticism it gets as a non japanese product and for the fact that it has lower quality materials compared to its so called "twin" apex coils.

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martins_240sx
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I dont get what you meant. My car wont be that drivable if I went lower. there is maybe a finger gab all they way around, and the coupe is even less

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Jdmstyles
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From the pics of your added wheel spacers it looks like your hatch can safely go lower without scraping due to the fact that my hatch is about the same height and that I go over speed bumps without a problem. thats why i assume yours can safely go lower.


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martins_240sx
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it was lowered since that. iirc another 1-1/2. well got my head studs today so I will be putting my engine back together tommorow. also my coupe had a bad day. just bought rear tires but no fronts and they were a little on the bald side. it was raining to day and i understeered into a guard rail... all these post about no drifting and to be honest if I had of gave it some gas i would have drifted away. i need a new driverside rim and some fender damage. but it will prolly be fixed tomorow along with it getting its z32 bmc installed.

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martins_240sx
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I finally brought her home...runs like a champ. only 8psi 225hp/232tq. it is a little rich but its only for break in. I was having a problem with the wastegate though. as soon as 5000rpm comes the boost just climbs and climbs. but I cant go above 4500rpm anymore. dyno dont trust me so he put the limiter there. which is good since I dont need to go that high right now anyway. Now I just have to install my turbo timer, fix the stripped valve cover holes, timing cover holes, downpipe into turbo hole, downpipe,testpipe, catback, and mount miata battery up front. all of the stripping and destruction was from DRIFT TECH.

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Jdmstyles
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More pictures or a video when it's fully tuned would be nice

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martins_240sx
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well got a 130 miles on it and sent it to get painted. going a dark blue with black top. should get it thursday so ill post pics then

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240sxmech
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sounds good man been busy at work again so havent posted lately. i lost the message you left on my phone so give me a holla back 619 301 8840 maybe one day you can take a good road trip up here to my house and check out the conquest i have in my garage along wiht my 240. We can go play around ,thier is some good spots up here that i go drifting at. Later Scott

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martins_240sx
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yeah that would be awesome. Ive got to fix abunch of stripped holes. mainly valve cover and timing cover and one oil pan bolt. It blows my mind how a shop like that can stay in buisness.

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maj Andres
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*Off topic. Do you wanna sell me that Z32 BMC fitting that you got? I was test fitting the one I got and it seems like the threads are messed up where it meets the brake line. I just took it out of the bag!

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martins_240sx
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Ill just give it to you if I can find it.

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maj Andres
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Great! i a appreciate it much. awesome build too!

PHeller
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The coupe has a stock engine, right?

I've got a similar colored (two tone) coupe, and I absolutely have a crush on your suspension/wheel setup.

wirelessdude04
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nice build

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martins_240sx
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alright guys...I know its been a while since I lasted posted any updates. Im still on deployment right know but ive only got 2 months till im home. Due to the boredom of being stuck on a ship for 5 months now, I decided to spend some hard earned cash. I pretty much went on a spending spree on enjuku and Im trying on xcessive manurfacturing. If I didnt say I actually got the hatch painted and it "looked" good, but due to the many attempts of molding the bmagic over fenders on, the mold and paint cracked. So my final attempt with those fenders will be made when I get back. The paint shop is going to redo it all for free, lifetime warranty. If that doesnt work, which Im sure it wont, I will be placing on my newly purchased origin takashi over fenders. I will not be molding them on. just rivets and paint.

Other things on the to do listInstall shaved d21 valve coverInstall short shifterInstall Hood dampnersInstall Stainless steel brake linesInstall stainless steel clutch lineInstall alluminum overflow tankInstall nismo power braceInstall new adjustable suspension arms ( on both cars)Install 3 piece dme cooling panelInstall dual electric fan thermostateInstall nismo ebrake drifto knobInstall oil catch canInstall nismo dildo shift knob

These are being ordered and should be ready when I get homeInstall Xcessive intake plenumInstall Iac relocationInstall Xcessive oil pan with sr20det setupInstall sr20det high capacity oil pan adapter

To do listI will be doing a wire tuck I will be getting a real cage installed, prolly put the cusco in my coupe minus the front bars.Stripping interior minus door panels and center consuleRyno lining floor boardsPaint engine bay along with beautificationAnd of course finish up the 137 miles to 1000miles on the odometer and take her back to the dyno.

also if I get any more bored on this ship I dont think Im going to be able to stop myself from buying everything I need off of SIKKY to complete my coupe ls1 transformation. So stand by for "true pig part 2"Ive given up on making this car a comfortable daily...now it will be my fun toy. My coupe can be the comfortable daily hiding an ls1


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