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I watch a lot of Hulu.

Recently, Toyota has been producing shorts called "AutoBiographies". A recent one centers on the Lunds family, and is about Camrys.

The Lunds: Are all overweight. The mother, especially, has ballooned from attractive in the wedding photo to potential Biggest Loser candidate. The husband has owned a Camry for 19 years... 19 years. Of Camrys. I'll get that sink in. The livingroom which they were "interviewed" in is bland, and the wall is covered in pictures of their family. COVERED. And not exciting vacation photos... studio shots. Oh, and the son's wife is a TROLL.

I suspect these people also subscribe to the New York Times, and view Olive Garden as a fine Italian restaurant.

In short, Toyota has correctly captured a situation that if I found myself in, I'd shot myself in the face.

For your repulsion...
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nsYlxRdP5jk[/youtube]


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Geez dude, you're too hard on people.

They seem like a pretty weird family in my opinion, but at least they ARE a family. Even if they are the stereotypical midwest, bland, middle class, blue collar, blah blah blah.... I came from the midwest and can tell you there's COUNTLESS families like that. Is there something wrong with that? Not at all.

If everyone was like you Charlieo, I'd shoot myself in the face.

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Meh.
Let them drive what they want.

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Pretty bland car for a pretty bland family. The father doesn't think very far outside the box and the kids getting excited over a Camry means they grew up not knowing what a Nintendo was or that it even existed.

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leave the camry'ers alone charlieo. i myself have nothing against camry's, especially the early to mid 90's models. the newer are a little too over-designed for my personal tastes. It's just that where i am in life, i don't see myself owning one. Most people/families have particular makes they like and even go as far as having a particular models. Nothing wrong with that.

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Any family who voluntarily subjects themselves to 19 years of Camry ownership deserves all scorn and ridicule heaped on them.

At least they weren't all beige!

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Reverend D21 wrote:Pretty bland car for a pretty bland family. The father doesn't think very far outside the box and the kids getting excited over a Camry means they grew up not knowing what a Nintendo was or that it even existed.
They aren't a bland family. Look at back 0:28, do you think a cheerleader with trophies and personable belongings in boring?
I don't think it's right to rag on a family that seems as nice and close-knit as they do.

Most of what is said inside that video is fabricated - obviously the children weren't excited to receive Toyota Camrys, but they're getting paid to say what Toyota wants them to.

That's cool you like them, they are bland and boring to me. Just a forgettable family as far as I am concerned. Cheerleaders with trophies...yawn. You're right about not ragging on close-knit families, but it's perfectly fine to rag on families who are put themselves on TV, that's public domain and to think people won't have an opinion of things on TV is not being realistic. My PERSONAL opinion is this TV family makes me sick and makes me glad I have a perfectly f*** up family, I'd languish in a home like that. Good family or not, they are bland....my bottom line.

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infiniti_lineup wrote: Hmm, let's see - how many years have you voluntarily owned your '88 Land Cruiser? Should I start insulting you now or later? :tisk:
Sure. Go ahead and say a FJ62 Land Cruiser is bland and boring. You'd be wrong.

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Reverend D21 wrote:Pretty bland car for a pretty bland family. The father doesn't think very far outside the box and the kids getting excited over a Camry means they grew up not knowing what a Nintendo was or that it even existed.
They aren't a bland family. Look at back 0:28, do you think a cheerleader with trophies and personable belongings in boring?
I don't think it's right to rag on a family that seems as nice and close-knit as they do.

Most of what is said inside that video is fabricated - obviously the children weren't excited to receive Toyota Camrys, but they're getting paid to say what Toyota wants them to.
+1 None of them are enthusiasts looking to carve up a mountain road. None of them are interested in performance or great steerng. They just want to get from point a to b reliably. Since the Dad had good experiences with Camry's, he became a repeat buyer. That's hardly shocking. People have been brand loyal for decades.

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infiniti_lineup wrote:You know what they are and you're not?

HAPPY.
This.

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infiniti_lineup wrote:
Sure. Go ahead and say a Toyota Camry is bland and boring. You'd be wrong BECAUSE everyone has different wants and needs.

You're ragging on them for having Camry when someone could easily be ragging on you for having a Land Cruiser.
Let's try to make this world a better place, not worse.
Wants and needs have nothing to do with bland and boring. Imagine what live would be like eating at just Applebee's for nearly two decades. That is life with 19 years of Toyota Camrys.

Variety is the spice of life, man! The spice! And the spice must flow!

They're white bread. Microwave oatmeal- plain. Damn, I should go make dinner.

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Variety is interesting, but it comes with several variables. Why create the potential for a bad situation when it isn't necessary?

If I enjoyed the food from Applebee's, it never caused me any heath issues, and the cost was within my budget, I'd surely go eat there for two decades - if not more. But if I ever became sick from Applebee's food, then I'd have a motive to move to another restaurant. And if I had the opportunity to eat at some expensive steakhouse, then I might choose to indulge in that restaurant, but not until I've been given a reason to do so. Does that make sense?

Apply that methodology to this family's history with purchasing Toyota Camrys - they continue purchasing them because they've found them to be reliable, repair-cost friendly, and fit well within their budget. I'm sure if they had a bad experience or continual problems with their Camry(s) then they would not keep purchasing them.
Would you eat at Applebee's for dinner every single night for 20 years? And be happy about it? If so, I pity you as much as the Lunds.

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charlieo wrote:Would you eat at Applebee's for dinner every single night for 20 years? And be happy about it? If so, I pity you as much as the Lunds.
If it's something that I can enjoy and the family enjoys it as well, I see no issue with that.

If Toyota Camrys bring some sort of joy and appeasement to this family then there is no need for them to change that and cause the possibility for problems.
You sir, have my pity. What a life you must lead! Sex, always in the same position. Vacations, always in the same place. Always the same author of your books, genre of your movies. Happiness sure is easy enough!

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charlieo wrote:
You sir, have my pity. What a life you must lead! Sex, always in the same position. Vacations, always in the same place. Always the same author of your books, genre of your movies. Happiness sure is easy enough!
I wasn't suggesting not to go indulge in some European vacation or bungee jump off of a bridge. Those, for example, are fun experiences and enjoyable for that single situation.

But a vehicle that transports you from A-to-B (work, school) and is needed on a daily basis shouldn't be something that you need to indulge on, unless you have have a want to (enthusiasts, which obviously this family isn't).
And my point has consistently been that the family in the commercial has no evidence of a life including any experience beyond the milquetoast, and their choice of car reflects it.

You missed the point by an astounding margin.

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driving dependable bland s*** cars is surprisingly fun, nobody notices you and you can thrash them with no worries about damaging the car or driving it to work the next day. it may not be fast, handle good or look good but hey, it's a hand me down car that's paid off and doesn't need much maintenance.

as far as the dad, as he's gotten older the camry has become more of an old man car so it just keeps on appealing to him. he may have bought a lexus if they didn't keep making it bigger and softer.

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You sir, have my pity. What a life you must lead! Sex, always in the same position. Vacations, always in the same place. Always the same author of your books, genre of your movies. Happiness sure is easy enough!
Who are YOU to define what happiness means? If everyone was content with one single thing, there would be no happiness. Can you really judge a family and their lifestyle by a 2 minute commercial paid by Toyota? Sure they don't seem to be the most adventurous family in the world, but who are you to say that they aren't happy with what they have? A car is just a means of transportation for them. If you look at it this way, they are an exciting enough family to go on national TV showing the world why they've stuck to that car over the years. Would you be comfortable opening up your family and house to cameras to show how your lifestyle is? I bet you wouldn't as you'd be too concerned about what others think about you.

Your closed minded-ness and negativity towards other decisions shows what kind of person you really are. You should stop focusing on looking down at others and try making yourself happy by doing the things that YOU like.

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3 posts in you begin your attempts at the main point of my tongue-in-cheek social commentary, and begin the defense of the Camry. You toddled back over asking about if I consider becoming President an accomplishment, but in the end you swung back to the Camry, and away from the point. Also notice not once did I talk about the family's happiness, only the dreary life they find happiness in, and the excruciating madness it would drive me to.

Reverend D21 actually got the point the whole time. Gold star for him.

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charlieo wrote:Any family who voluntarily subjects themselves to 19 years of Camry ownership deserves all scorn and ridicule heaped on them.

At least they weren't all beige!
:rotfl :rotfl :rotfl

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Who are YOU to define what happiness means? If everyone was content with one single thing, there would be no happiness. Can you really judge a family and their lifestyle by a 2 minute commercial paid by Toyota? Sure they don't seem to be the most adventurous family in the world, but who are you to say that they aren't happy with what they have? A car is just a means of transportation for them. If you look at it this way, they are an exciting enough family to go on national TV showing the world why they've stuck to that car over the years. Would you be comfortable opening up your family and house to cameras to show how your lifestyle is? I bet you wouldn't as you'd be too concerned about what others think about you.

Your closed minded-ness and negativity towards other decisions shows what kind of person you really are. You should stop focusing on looking down at others and try making yourself happy by doing the things that YOU like.

Why yes, I can judge someone via a two minute commercial. And judging them DOES make me happy, because I am oh so glad I don't live their vanilla life. BONUS ROUND: show me I gave a damn about what makes them happy or not happy? s***, the title of the thread should have clued you in this was about me.
infiniti_lineup wrote:Stop looking for excuses.

Summary of this thread: You're a close-minded judgmental bastard. :slap:
I find it humorous to be called close-minded by a man who admits he wouldn't eat at another restaurant but Applebee's if it constantly made him happy.

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charlieo wrote: I find it humorous to be called close-minded by a man who admits he wouldn't eat at another restaurant but Applebee's if it constantly made him happy.
You can laugh all you want, but if my family and I are happy with what we do, then give me a reason why I should change my lifestyle to please you. Oh wait, you can't.
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I think you see your family in that family. Obesity is no joke, buddy. I'd get that looked at.

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charlieo wrote:I think you see your family in that family. Obesity is no joke, buddy. I'd get that looked at.
You're upset that your entire viewpoint has been shot down. It's OK, I understand you're looking to insult me because you can't win.

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Yeah... Not seeing that. My point was that family is bland. You admitted so. Then you blathered on about their happiness, and I said you missed the point. So yeah... Solid win brah!

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charlieo wrote:Yeah... Not seeing that. My point was that family is bland. You admitted so. Then you blathered on about their happiness, and I said you missed the point. So yeah... Solid win brah!
I never admitted that. In fact, I specifically said: "They aren't a bland family."

You began the discussion of happiness: "Happiness sure is easy enough!"

You really need to learn how to read. Fuggin' idiot


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OH s***! Bold! It's all so clear now! Man if only I had known!

No brah, you admitted they were a bland family. You didn't say they were bland, but you got all concerned and white-knighty about a family that is bland. Your basic premise is that if happiness is staying inside the box, well then that's cool. Inside the box is bland, bro.

You also demonstrated a stunning lack of ability to catch on to subtle humor. GrilledCheese got it, and he used to drive a Honda!

But thanks for the bold letters. They're adventurous!

I'm really flattered at your attempts to be me in a thread by me. It's cute.

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Charlieo, for once, I kind of agree with you. I flipping hate Camrys. Not because they're a bad car, they're actually pretty reliable. But like you said, they're so damn boring! I don't think I'd be happy after 19 years of Camry.

As far as the family thing goes, I just assumed they're actors.

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Charlieo, for once, I kind of agree with you. I flipping hate Camrys. Not because they're a bad car, they're actually pretty reliable. But like you said, they're so damn boring! I don't think I'd be happy after 19 years of Camry.

As far as the family thing goes, I just assumed they're actors.

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I'm both better AND judgmental. Thanks though.

And you're damn right I can't say I didn't make fun of them. I'll NEVER find myself in that situation, though, so I'm covered there.

I judge people in gated communities too.

Dude, you're batting a thousand!

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AZ89two4Tsx wrote:
If everyone was like you Charlieo, I'd shoot myself in the face.
infiniti_lineup wrote:Stop looking for excuses.

Summary of this thread: You're a close-minded judgmental bastard. :slap:

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charlieo wrote:I'm both better AND judgmental. Thanks though.

And you're damn right I can't say I didn't make fun of them. I'll NEVER find myself in that situation, though, so I'm covered there.

I judge people in gated communities too.

Dude, you're batting a thousand!
In my viewpoint, you aren't better because your making fun of those who have less than you.

And you won't know for certainty that you'll never be in that position until you're dead. You'd be suprised at the amount many successful, wealthy people that were displaced and broken down after the economy crashed and, to this day, would just wish and pray to live the life that the family in this Toyota family is living.

As a note, I'm only 20. See the cars in my profile? Yes, I own them.
So, (in financial numbers) I'm probably better than you, your family, and the family in the Toyota commercial. But, I'm not making fun or passing judgement on any of them.

Follow by example, young grasshopper.
Wow! That's a lot of paid-off cars! I'm impressed!

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infiniti_lineup wrote:Thanks, most people are. ;)
Oh, you should know that was sarcasm. I'm suspicious they're paid off.

Plus, life isn't completely about money. It's about experiences. Of which the Lunds appear hilariously lacking in. And don't give me that "joy of raising a child" s***. They don't even have a dog!

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You should put your sarcasm in italics from now on. It's hard to tell it apart from the rest of the crap your saying. But, yes, they are paid off.

That's why I stated that my comparison was based on financial means, not experiences. It'd be impossible to compare people on the basis of personal experiences, as they'd rank differently from the emotional response/meaning in each person. And, as I said earlier, this commercial focuses on the Toyota family's experiences with Toyota, it does not document the rest of their lives. So, again, judging them based on the commercial (or at all) is invalid.

My mistake to tell you that I like the last word in all conversations/arguments. Now you're just pulling at strings in your posts to get your post count higher. :tisk:
Of course you LIKE the last word. Nobody likes being trumped.

Plus, your white-knighting amuses me.

And if I'm invalid you're an invalid. Wordplay!


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