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Rabbits want to prescribe that woman the pill.


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Lol. funniest thing i've heard all morning. thank you kind sir.

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infiniti_lineup wrote:Giant Wall-o-text.

It's not often I get to say this to someone only a few years my junior....
You never answered about your previous employment, so let me snap you into reality: Get out into the real world a bit, and then tell me if your fairy tale promotion system works. It doesn't. It would be terrific if we could all hold hands and sing Kumbaya while the cream rose to the top, but that's now how it works. s***, dumb people win, and win a lot.

In real life people get promoted on merit and experience, yes. Often. Also often, the utterly incompetent are friends of the boss, at the right place at the right time, know the right people, or maybe just backstabbed their way to the top. You keep up with your little utopia, but even PMQ, who is the master of this sort of silliness, will not say you have to be better to be promoted.

As for the ads, you're DEFENDING mediocrity. Which, interestingly, is the enemy of your fantasy promotion system. And also, humanity. The steam engine gets me places just fine! It's safe, no need to change anything.

Oh wait. Someone wanted better and now we're all using the internal combustion engine. Things we should have also missed out on if we were happy with bland: going to the moon. Making Blu-Ray p0rn. Microwaves. The Concorde. Star Wars. 200hp motorcycles. High-speed internet.

Dude. You'd be happy living in a world without Blu-Ray p0rn. How can you look at yourself?!
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charlieo wrote:Any family who voluntarily subjects themselves to 19 years of Camry ownership deserves all scorn and ridicule heaped on them.

At least they weren't all beige!
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dre1507 wrote:It's kind of stupid to call a family bland because of their tastes in cars. there are plenty of other camry owners out there that do not lead bland lives, and until you've sat down with this family and gone through their history member by member, your point will remain illogical. For example, a rock-climber who possibly drives a camry or any of the other cars you may judge as bland. Cars are not his/her passion. they are simply a means of transportation. It's not logical to say s/he lacks living experiences. i'm with infinity dude 100% on this one.

You are going into hypothetical mode here. I am basing my opinion on what was presented to me and I find it boring and bland. There is no logic to be found in opinions but feel free to keep looking. I was presented Mr and Mrs. Typical Non-Controversial Conservative America and it bored me plain and simple. I find the thought of going through the family's history member by member even less interesting.

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a 2 minute commercial about a family's tastes in cars could not have told you everything about them. so to call them bland will remain a stupid opinion IMO. i too, find their tastes in cars to be bland, but i wouldn't go about calling the people themselves bland just because of that. it's your opinion though. so i guess it ends there.

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You are just jealous I came up with my opinion before you did.

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lol dude. lol.

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lol

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dre1507 wrote:bubba. that's exactly the point infinty lineup made on page 1.
I guess great minds think alike. :dblthumb:

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dre1507 wrote:a 2 minute commercial about a family's tastes in cars could not have told you everything about them. so to call them bland will remain a stupid opinion IMO. i too, find their tastes in cars to be bland, but i wouldn't go about calling the people themselves bland just because of that. it's your opinion though. so i guess it ends there.
that's right, for all you know, that mom might wear a leather dominatrix outfit with a whip and the dad wears a spiked dog collar and a tutu, which would make them blend in with Nala's car club. :) (j/k)

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^^^ :lolling: :bowrofl: now that takes the cake for the funniest thing I've heard today.

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Bubba1 wrote:Did it occur to you that Toyota's ad was aimed at their target demographic? Middle class, multicar families that view cars as appliances. Whether Toyota hired actors or used an actual family is irrelevent. There are a whole lot more people like the ones portrayed than there are enthusiasts who care more about the driving experience as opposed to reliability/functionality.
Of course it did. THAT is the source of the horror.
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It always bothered me they called those a shooting brake. I mean, I understand why, it sounds much cooler, but shooting brakes are two-doors.

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charlieo wrote:I watch a lot of Hulu.

Recently, Toyota has been producing shorts called "AutoBiographies". A recent one centers on the Lunds family, and is about Camrys.

The Lunds: Are all overweight. The mother, especially, has ballooned from attractive in the wedding photo to potential Biggest Loser candidate. The husband has owned a Camry for 19 years... 19 years. Of Camrys. I'll get that sink in. The livingroom which they were "interviewed" in is bland, and the wall is covered in pictures of their family. COVERED. And not exciting vacation photos... studio shots. Oh, and the son's wife is a TROLL.

I suspect these people also subscribe to the New York Times, and view Olive Garden as a fine Italian restaurant.

In short, Toyota has correctly captured a situation that if I found myself in, I'd shot myself in the face.

For your repulsion...
LOL Awesome man. You think like i do...which scares me. :dblthumb:

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Another one of these Toyota "autobiographies" features a 15 year old kid who expresses extreme excitement at the idea of getting to drive the family Camry Hybrid in a few months. The look on his face is even convincing. Someone needs to stick his balls in a microwave before he spreads the stupid.

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charlieo wrote:You keep up with your little utopia, but even PMQ, who is the master of this sort of silliness, will not say you have to be better to be promoted.

Agreed. Often times the hard worker will hear, "We need to keep you in this position because you're so good at it." So wait, you're telling me I'm TOO GOOD to promote! FU!!!

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infiniti_lineup wrote:
charlieo wrote:Any family who voluntarily subjects themselves to 19 years of Camry ownership deserves all scorn and ridicule heaped on them.

At least they weren't all beige!
No. They've found a vehicle that suits their needs and hasn't failed them for all those years. More props to them for that, not scorn and ridicule.

Hmm, let's see - how many years have you voluntarily owned your '88 Land Cruiser? Should I start insulting you now or later? :tisk:

There's a family up the street from me that has 3 Volvos. Not sure on the models as I've never really looked at them, 2 wagons and one sedan. All the same mid-90's generation. While it probably means they're all about safety and they are kind of bland cars (actually one of the wagons might be a turbo), it's always cool to me to see people with well-taken-care-of older cars that have obviously been in the family forever.

There are boring people out there that don't care about their cars except for them to be reliable and that's it. :gotme

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charlieo wrote:Variety is the spice of life, man! The spice! And the spice must flow!
In your world of "variety" there would be no fat people, right? GOOD ONE

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Huge fatty makes me laugh, but quit trying to start a fight. This particular fatty lifts weights 4 times a week and can run and likes to climb. If and when he wants to say these things to my face, then I'll have it out.

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Dattebayo wrote:Huge fatty makes me laugh, but quit trying to start a fight. This particular fatty lifts weights 4 times a week and can run and likes to climb. If and when he wants to say these things to my face, then I'll have it out.
Oh boy! A fatty who can run. Tell you what, next NICOfest that's in Omaha, come on up. I'll be there. We'll get raging drunk and I'll slap you around a little. Oh and I like fatties existing... they cheer me up.


Infiniti_lineup, until you've had a job outside your sheltered little bubble, you're nothing but a bad troll. You've shot down nothing. In fact, you've gone from stating that people who get promoted above, say, you are smarter than you, then you retract that and say we agree! Grow up, get a job, get real. Or you can cling to your absolute (despite all the bold text you can come up with) defense of a sheltered life...wait! It makes sense now. You're the Lunds! Oh man, I'm so sorry. Enjoy your boring, sad, pathetic life.

I'm glad I could give you a chance to have an e-venture, though.

Original point, one last time, maybe you'll finally get it:
The Lunds, with their ever-increasing beltlines, Wal-Mart furniture, multiple Camrys, and most telling, a wall full of nothing but sterile, studio portraits of their family, sure have the life. I'm jealous! Jealous of the fact they could live that life without eating rat poison.

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I think the j30 is a boring car.

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infiniti_lineup wrote:
charlieo wrote:Original point, one last time, maybe you'll finally get it:
The Lunds, with their ever-increasing beltlines, Wal-Mart furniture, multiple Camrys, and most telling, a wall full of nothing but sterile, studio portraits of their family, sure have the life. I'm jealous! Jealous of the fact they could live that life without eating rat poison.
I'll ignore your other unfounded attacks on me.

You're a sick human being.

No way you act like this in real life. You'd be dead or in prison already if you did.
He's not sick...because he didn't eat the rat poison
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infiniti_lineup wrote:Don't you ever wonder if someone is thinking/hoping the same about you?

The 2002 WRX Wagon, 2004 SV650, 1988 Land Cruiser you all own sure aren't anything special. So, according to your mentality, you should be enjoying some rat poison too?

Oh man! Those weren't Altoids at all!

Motorcycles, if you don't know, are instant sources of specialness. Why? Because even on a daily commute, you catch glimpses of gruesome deaths. I think Looney once said it best; "at the end of a ride, you're always saying 'Yay! I didn't die!'"

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infiniti_lineup wrote:I guess. But the dangerous factor of riding a motorcycle really lies in the driver, which could be applied to a regular sedan and be compared to being of equal danger.

Who the hell is Looney? Making up fake quotes now?

And I sure hope you aren't that obnoxious motorcycle driver that lets his fat rolls and crack fall out of his pants and make people behind you throw up.
Car drivers are generally the slayer of motorcyclists, not the riders themselves. No-notice left hand turns by cagers across traffic are the Holocaust for bikers, not riding one.

Looney_b0mber. On NICO. Nice guy, has a kid, likes shooting possums and wearing expensive jeans. I paraphrased a bit, but the sentiment stays the same.

And no, most of the time I'm not commuting (in which I'm wearing a onesie), I'm in two-piece leathers, so there's no crack there. The leathers also smush my fat up so nobody is assaulted by that either.

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Also, you ride a motorcycle, like one rides a horse. I know Google suggests that driving a motorcycle is an option, but it's just not right.

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Ahh go f*** you self dude you are a douche. You have no sense of reason or intelligence! All you are doing is being in your little shoe box and not even reading or even trying to understand what others are saying. My x gf had alot in common with you thats why i dumped her after putting up with her annoying closed mindedness for three and half years, which you acquire the same traits, i feel bad for your surroundings due to your lack of understanding what others are trying to say. Its no use beating a dead dog with a stick so just blabber along. I hope you wake up from your dream in which everyone is like you and the ones that aren't like you need to convert to your douchbagery.

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infiniti_lineup wrote:
charlieo wrote:Also, you ride a motorcycle, like one rides a horse. I know Google suggests that driving a motorcycle is an option, but it's just not right.
What are you saying? Sorry, just trying to be clear.

You're saying that riding a motorcycle is an inherited right? Not an option? Or the opposite?
No. Remember when you said grasping for straws was incorrect? Well, calling the operator of a motorcycle a "driver" is actually incorrect. Motorcycles are ridden, like a horse or a bicycle. If you want to try an play King of Semantics (Don't play MoD, he actually is the king), you better get these little details right. I've bolded your misuse below.
infiniti_lineup wrote: But then you have the motorcyclists that choose to swerve between lanes with vehicles IN those lanes and, of course, that annoying one that sneaks up to the beginning of the line at a red light. Those situations cause accidents, and that's the fault of the motorcyclist - not the drivers around them. I'd imagine that motorcycle accidents are 75% caused by the driver of such motorcycle.

Oh. Thought you might have been referring to George Clooney or something. Werd.

Leather? Should have expected that from you.
Leather is the top-tier choice for protection against long slides on the pavement. You're damn right that's what you should expect from me.

The Hurt Report (named after Dr. Hurt), analyzed 900 motorcycle accidents over a two year period... left hand turners accounted for 28% of collisions. "Angle collisions" like a car pulling out in front of a motorcycle at a stop sign accounted for 29%. "Other," in which your wreckless rider is lumped, accounted for just 18%. Oh, and 26% of collisions involved just the motorcycle. This study, while dated, is the only large-scale, government funded study into motorcycle collisions.

Road Rider's 2004 study of reported accidents was similar, with 28% being angle collisions, and 24% being left turners.

What study did you get your 75% figure from?

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infiniti_lineup wrote: Leather is also a fad that ended in the early 1960s. Only greased-up slimeballs (or hot women) wear them now.

"Here's an astonishing fact. If you were injured in a motorcycle accident chances are it was your fault only 20% of the time. That means that in 80% of the accidents involving a motorcycle, it was due to the negligence of another."

Whopsie - my estimate was off. Just took a guess after remembering the horrible experiences I've had with dumbass motorcycle drivers in Florida.
Valentino Rossi. Won MotoGP a handful of times... wearing leathers.

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Of course, his is a brutally expensive Dainese one-piece, I just have an AGV set. Nice try with the insult, though.

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infiniti_lineup wrote:Hello, have you never heard of nylon or Kevlar? Codura? Lycra? All good alternatives that aren't passé. And offer better protection from the weather's elements than leather.
You're not a rider. What you're talking about are referred to as "textiles." They do not offer the impact and abrasion protection leathers do. Textiles are are superior against wetness and often better ventilated in the heat (though they make perforated leathers that flow excellent amounts of air), and they are popular with adventure riders (aka BMW GS owners).

But...

In Proficient Motorcycling, the top-selling motorcycling book for 10 years, the author notes that "Fabric riding suits with armored patches can be almost as abrasion resistant as leather...the more hazardous the situation, the greater the need for the good stuff. When I'm making a nighttime transit through deer country on my two-wheeled rocket, I'm inclined to wear my heavyweight leathers..." p. 37.

If you turn the page, you see of picture of a rider in a full textile suit, and under it "Leather is the king in terms of abrasion resistance..."

There is a reason professionals wear leather.

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infiniti_lineup wrote:.....You're not a professional motorcycle driver. You don't need leather. Plus, you're killing cows. Good job.
Last time: rider. If you get anal retentive about "pulling at strings," you're going to have to suffer the consequences of being pedantic.

Of course I don't need leather. It's better, and I can afford the extra protection it offer.

I like to think the leather came from the cows I had slaughtered so I could eat a hamburger yesterday.


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