Toyota makes a commercial duplicating my worst nightmare

[dre1507]

It's kind of stupid to call a family bland because of their tastes in cars. there are plenty of other camry owners out there that do not lead bland lives, and until you've sat down with this family and gone through their history member by member, your point will remain illogical. For example, a rock-climber who possibly drives a camry or any of the other cars you may judge as bland. Cars are not his/her passion. they are simply a means of transportation. It's not logical to say s/he lacks living experiences. i'm with infinity dude 100% on this one.

[Otto.]

Thanks, most people are.

Oh, you should know that was sarcasm. I'm suspicious they're paid off.

Plus, life isn't completely about money. It's about experiences. Of which the Lunds appear hilariously lacking in. And don't give me that "joy of raising a child" bullsh*t. They don't even have a dog!

Wow... you'll find a fault in anything (even if it means contradicting yourself) and argue about it.

Where do you find happiness? Only in judging other people and pointing out THEIR flaws? Are you really that miserable?

[Urabus GodofTraction]

It's not a matter of being trumped, I've obviously trumped you in this thread already. It's more of a social order related thing.

Stop saying white-knighting, all these words "brah" "white-knighting" whatever else you said in this thread...it makes you seem like you're some fat, pimply kid that surfs 4chan.

Ok dude! You're really, really bad with satire.

Wow... you'll find a fault in anything (even if it means contradicting yourself) and argue about it.

Where do you find happiness? Only in judging other people and pointing out THEIR flaws? Are you really that miserable?

I wouldn't say only!

I like:
Raindrops on roses and whiskers on kittens
Bright copper kettles and warm woolen mittens
Brown paper packages tied up with strings
Cream colored ponies and crisp apple streudels
Doorbells and sleigh bells and schnitzel with noodles
Wild geese that fly with the moon on their wings
Girls in white dresses with blue satin sashes
Snowflakes that stay on my nose and eyelashes
Silver white winters that melt into springs
Those are a few of my favorite things!

[alms24sebring]

They're white bread. Microwave oatmeal- plain. Damn, I should go make dinner.

I guess I see your point but it its alittle extreme and critical. The only thing that bothered me was when he asked the brother what it was like having so many sisters, and he reacted like he fudged them all secretely on a daily basis.

I think Charlio and Dattabayo are brothers. Both like insulting and always have something critical to say about something.. no offense

[Urabus GodofTraction]

I guess I see your point but it its alittle extreme and critical. The only thing that bothered me was when he asked the brother what it was like having so many sisters, and he reacted like he fudged them all secretely on a daily basis.

I think Charlio and Dattabayo are brothers. Both like insulting and always have something critical to say about something.. no offense

Whoa. Whoa whoa. You can take my love, take my land, take me where I cannot stand. But, you can't lump me in with Datte.

The guy is a HUGE fatty. Also I'm halfway useful sometimes. He's just a huge fatty.

I think the guy was shady because he's actually the 4th sister.

[Urabus GodofTraction]

I just noticed how many ninja edits you made on your posts in this thread.

And I'll stake my reputation against saying that you're not anywhere as critical in real life as your are on this forum. Sure, you can say that I'm wrong, but I know that I'm not.

You're a keyboard kiddie.

I've made one ninja edit (two counting this one), and one regular edit.

And your reputation would be HALF besmirched. See, in real life I associate myself with people of an extremely high caliber, both in my professional life and my personal life. So, I'm less critical of them. Also some of them are my bosses.

They do know and enjoy my biting criticism of those I don't associate with. My "People of Wal-Mart" blog would actually be "People of this Planet."

[dre1507]

Charlieo has a Unicorn mentality. He's better than us horses and donkeys. Don't even mention the mules. better hope he never loses those long legs, white hair and horn.

[Urabus GodofTraction]

That's two more than me. I know what I'm saying when I post it and don't have to go back and correct it.

So you've again proved two things that I've said in my previous posts:
"You're a close-minded judgmental bastard."
"In my viewpoint, you aren't better because your making fun of those who have less than you."

You don't criticize or pass judgement on your bosses or those above you in this world because you know that you're viewpoints would be rejected and cause you to be cast off your job/relationships/etc.

Common knowledge and societal order states that people that are above you in a professional capacity or personal capacity are smarter than you.

What does that make you?

In order:

The edits have not be for valued content, just silliness like song lyrics. Or spelling, public school education being what it is...

I've not denied being judgmental. But you can't begin to call me close-minded when you admit you would change anything if you were in your comfort zone (ie: Applebee's).

LOL. Man, you need to know where I work before you start telling me my superiors are smarter than me. I'm critical, not stupid. Sure, I could have penned an essay on the terrible job my old squadron commander was doing, but then I'd be in f***, New Mexico swatting blowflys and dodging taco trucks. Some real idiots manage to tumble themselves up the ranks, and even stuck in a dead-end assignment like my last commander, can still f*** me over good. That comment may have been the stupidest thing you've said all night. You honestly can tell me you think every boss you've ever had is smarter than you? Either you dumb, or you delusional, dawg.

[ADDirishboy]

This thread sucks.

[Urabus GodofTraction]

Charlieo has a Unicorn mentality. He's better than us horses and donkeys. Don't even mention the mules. better hope he never loses those long legs, white hair and horn.

If by horn you mean my pen15, I sure hope I don't lose it either!

My parents own a donkey. It's the s***!

[Urabus GodofTraction]

This thread sucks.

Indeed. Dude tried to make a joke about beige A-B mobiles and fat wives, gets jumped.

[ADDirishboy]

I do find all those damned Toyota commercials to be insanely obnoxious though. Whenever one comes on, I want to punch the family in the face.

[Urabus GodofTraction]

Still. Say what you mean and mean what you say...but don't say it mean!

If I was given a reason to change something, then I would. But, if I'm not, then theres no need to change. That's not close-mindedness, that's convenience and comfortability. What don't you get about that?

That's societal order for you. Your bosses didn't get to their position by being stupid. They know what they needed to do to get to that position, and they keep doing it to keep that position. That's s-m-a-r-t.

You're not a very bright person, huh? The kind of person you'd expect to be at a KKK meeting.

You're reaching at straws now. Just trying to get that last word in!

So you're willing to admit that every boss you've had is smarter or as smart as you are?

[Urabus GodofTraction]

Nice copying what I said earlier!

I don't have bosses, my friend.

I just Control-Fed both pages. You didn't mention straw ONCE.

Self employed? Touche!

Past bosses. Everybody flipped burgers or slung newspapers at one point. Hell, we'll count teachers too, as socially they were above you. Or parents.

Edit for the Control-F verification.

[gammer_ghn]

Too many toyoda lovers in here its getting hard to breath!!! we need to ban the toyota lovers or at least teleport them to honda nation so they go crazy when all the v-tecs kick in!

What's your judgement on these people charlieo?

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0DUPQbz-F_M[/youtube]

When i saw this two first appear i wanted to stab their eyes out with a sword and feed it to my dog, my x gf is so stuck up and self loving like these people they are so full of them selves wooooww, as far as i know and seen California and toyota doesn't match! it makes me want to hurt these self centered selfish disgusting people that drive side by side others and smirk when they see you mad and do everything in their power to piss you off while you are driving!

[Urabus GodofTraction]

What's your judgement on these people charlieo?

They're terrible actors, and the "mom" is on the chubby side. So, JUDGEMENT.

[asoomal]

lol @ Lund...

[Urabus GodofTraction]

Three more edits than me now. And I actually said "pulling at strings" which is the correct way to say that statement, but that's beside the point.

Not really self-employed either, it's more of family money/business. You get a lot further higher in the ranks in that type of organization.

Ok, so you're stating that everyone of your past bosses "flipped flipped burgers or slung newspapers", but then you contradicted your entire point by stating "at one point". Obviously, they don't do that anymore. Now, they've become more successful/SMARTER than before and have achieved the rank that they had before.

VERY rarely have I ever seen someone who has achieved their position only thru seniority only. Some combination of achievements, success in their position, and approval/performance ranks have to be around in order for them to receive a higher position.

Grasping at straws is correct as well. To say otherwise is grasping at threads. You're making no headwind with the "oh I'm so much better because I haven't admitted to editing anything" shtick either. I'm going to say you've made 4 ninja edits. That's one more than me! Look how awesome I am! Prove me wrong, bucko.

On past employers. You've arrived at a problem now, I'm afraid. First, you've introduced success into the equation, which, as Paris Hilton can tell you, has little to do with character or intelligence. She is more successful than the both of us, but are we better than her? I would hope so (though I haven't had a South Park made about me... is that success?) Two, you assume that if a fry cook quits his job, and gets employed as a Wal-Mart assistant manager, that he's gotten smarter. People can max out in their... shall we say, quality, and still continue to rise to higher levels. Perhaps working in a family business you've been sheltered from such events. A woman could get promoted because she has nice cans, or maybe was in the same sorority as her boss. Dozens of variables go into promotions. Take two totally equal people: they are just born 2 years apart. Both pursue jobs in the TSA, entering exactly two years apart. The older one, having been in for 10 years, gets promoted to head passenger harasser. The younger is now his subordinate, despite being identical in every quantitative aspect except only having been in for 8.

[gammer_ghn]

When i saw this two first appear i wanted to stab their eyes out with a sword and feed it to my dog, my x gf is so stuck up and self loving like these people they are so full of them selves wooooww, as far as i know and seen California and toyota doesn't match! it makes me want to hurt these self centered selfish disgusting people that drive side by side others and smirk when they see you mad and do everything in their power to piss you off while you are driving!

That doesn't seem to be a normal reaction. They're just a young family with children. How does that make you come to the conclusion that they are self-centered, selfish, and disgusting people? You're taking the commercial far out of context and applying stereotypical, invalid thought processes.

And, not in relation to your judgement on the young couple, what's wrong with a self-love? If you don't like yourself then you are greatly reducing your change of achieving happiness.

lol @ Lund...

Care to explain your irrational, unproven statement with founded factual information that would have some substance and relevance to this thread?

Otherwise, GTFO

What i was getting at is that they feel so highly of them selves, like oh im above you cuz im a conservative... Its like who gives a f*** i dont need to put up with you get out of my way or get in the right lane and stop driving side by side the other guy so i cant get passed and look back in ur rear view with an evil smile. They feel they can enforce their own laws of 5 miles below speedlimit. I get to a stop light they give me a lecture for passing them when they dont want to share the road. I have a very bad drive to work people are so stuck up and out of 10 cars 6 are toyotas so it raises their average therefore the bad apples are seen.

[Urabus GodofTraction]

Grasping at straws, grasping at threads, ANYTHING other than "pulling at strings" is incorrect. Just because they pop up on Google's suggestion list doesn't make them correct.

Prove it. You're dealing with regional colloquialisms and broad statements such as that are on thin ice. Or skating on thin ice, either is correct. I'll also accept tugging at threads.

And how can you prove that I've made four ninja edits? I don't see any substance behind that accusation. Prove ME wrong.

I have faith.

Believe it or not, Paris Hilton is a much more intellectually smarter than either one of us, I'm afraid.

More intellectually smarter. Well, with statements like that she's probably smarter than you! And no, again you're confusing success with intelligence. One can be inferior and more successful. Take you for example. You claim to make more than me. Does that make you more intelligent, and more superior? Vastly suspect. I sacrificed financial gains for a life of service to country and flying big-a** airplanes.

Paris Hilton is certainly not intelligent. She has some business savvy, in that she is smart enough to employ people smarter than her. Wait! That goes counter to your argument as well... the concept of employing people smarter than you!

Back on topic - you're assuming that the event a fry cook becoming employed as a Wal-Mart assistant manager would happen. First off all, what are the salaries on each? Management position comparison, stock holding differences? All of that information is relative to even begin considering that situation. But, even if that information was provided, your assuming that the event would even occur. Basic laws of economics state that, that would never happen. You cannot move up in rank without showing some form of achievement/continuing education/etc.

Simply because I'm more relative towards a family business environment doesn't lead one to assume that I have no experience or understanding of a public/private corporation's ethics, inner-workings, and policies. Take Infiniti, for example, I've been subjected to their corporate and retailer structure for seven years and have learned almost all of their policies and inner-workings. Infiniti Corporate would never hire a Service Technician, that was fired at a BMW Dealership, as a CFO (position is open, by the way) for their company. BOOM! You're example - it's now shot down and thrown out.

Your attempts to muddy the waters with talk of stock options, car dealerships, and tossing out phrases like "basic economics" is pathetic. You have no ground to stand on anymore, and it's showing.

I won't even tackle your other example. You were stated a completely un-qualitative example as the older TSA employee is two years the older of the younger TSA employee. Either both will be promoted or outside hiring would take place (especially since the TSA is a government agency), else a workplace dispute would ensue with potential for a equal employment lawsuit.

Nope. It's completely possible that given two equal personnel, a promotion would be decided based solely on time-in-grade. In fact, it happens all the time. Ask union autoworkers. Nice try, though.

I take great pleasure in this merry sidetrack you've taken us on. When in doubt, change the subject, ehh? I'm on to you. Go back to trying to defend the Lunds.

Have you ever worked a job outside your little family bubble? Ask around. Promotions are not always granted to superiority. To be fair to you, if you got extremely philosophical about it, you could get away with making that claim, but you're down in the cave, watching shadows.

[gammer_ghn]

What i was getting at is that they feel so highly of them selves, like oh im above you cuz im a conservative... Its like who gives a f*** i dont need to put up with you get out of my way or get in the right lane and stop driving side by side the other guy so i cant get passed and look back in ur rear view with an evil smile. They feel they can enforce their own laws of 5 miles below speedlimit. I get to a stop light they give me a lecture for passing them when they dont want to share the road. I have a very bad drive to work people are so stuck up and out of 10 cars 6 are toyotas so it raises their average therefore the bad apples are seen.

So you got all of that from a 2 minute, 27 second Toyota commercial documenting the family's happy experiences with a Toyota vehicle? Who mentioned being conservative? They could be left-wing extremists for all you know.

Also, you determined that the parents in the commercial drive in the left lane? I don't recall the camera showing which lane the vehicle was traveling in. They were traveling at 5mph below the speed limit? I don't recall the camera showing the speedometer.

You're subjecting unsupported and unfounded stereotypes that you've developed because of your daily work drive onto ALL Toyota drivers - or, for that matter, drivers from ALL manufactures.

Can you read i said toyota drivers in general in my area and seeing their spokes people acting like oh we are so cool cuz we drive a toyota omg omg omg pisses me off, im sure u havent seen their music video and all. Conservative part comes from the whole its reliable look at us we have toyotas, i dont like posers. dude you need to wake up and see what these advertisements are feeding you. Take a trip to La and you will develop the same frustration! I have friends who drive toyotas and wooow they annoy they crap out of me and that is one of the main reasons i don't associate my self with them unless i run into them. I also hate ford but i work at a ford dealer, selling fords... These commercials are annoying to the people who dislike the types of people and vehicles they drive and i am entitled to my own opinion last i checked, you seem like an intelligent man so think outside the box and put your self in others perspective to help you understand where they are coming from before your 2 cents, you are also entitled to your opinion but don't be a prophet when you try to make your point get across.

[Jesda]

Toyota ads are a bit depressing. They don't inspire, convey pride, or create a sense of want.

"Hi, I have a Camry. I'm a pudgy white American. Want to see my Peter Cetera records?"

The Sienna ads are at least self-deprecating.

[ADDirishboy]

And she isn't chubby in relation to factual information on the United State's average weight and obesity weight average. So, WRONG.

So we should be OK with the fact that the "average" American is overweight and accept it?

No. You should be sickened by the fact that everyone is accepting that Americans are fat. Sorry, but I don't like being portrayed to the rest of the world as an obese little intellectual dwarf, thankyouverymuch.

Put the fork down and get on a treadmill, pudgy.

[PEZi]

At least they weren't all beige!

the more you post.... the more i like you....




you're still a complete f*** tho....

[PoorManQ45]

The first two daughters shown appear to have a nice thickness...

[Bubba1]

The first two daughters shown appear to have a nice thickness...

LOL. You guys are rough. Did it occur to you that Toyota's ad was aimed at their target demographic? Middle class, multicar families that view cars as appliances. Whether Toyota hired actors or used an actual family is irrelevent. There are a whole lot more people like the ones portrayed than there are enthusiasts who care more about the driving experience as opposed to reliability/functionality. FYI, if Toyota used supermodels and professional stunt drivers, none of you would purchase a camry anyway.

[PoorManQ45]

The first two daughters shown appear to have a nice thickness...

LOL. You guys are rough. Did it occur to you that Toyota's ad was aimed at their target demographic? Middle class, multicar families that view cars as appliances. Whether Toyota hired actors or used an actual family is irrelevent. There are a whole lot more people like the ones portrayed than there are enthusiasts who care more about the driving experience as opposed to reliability/functionality. FYI, if Toyota used supermodels and professional stunt drivers, none of you would purchase a camry anyway.

Oh, I was being serious. I'd hit it!

[MinisterofDOOM]

Any family who voluntarily subjects themselves to 19 years of Camry ownership deserves all scorn and ridicule heaped on them.

At least they weren't all beige!

If you were a chick I'd propose right now.

[themadscientist]

As long as the Duggars exist, these people are ok.

[dre1507]

lol, TMS. At least the next generation will have a plethora of christmas presents from aunts and uncles. still find 20 kids way too much.

Did it occur to you that Toyota's ad was aimed at their target demographic? Middle class, multicar families that view cars as appliances. Whether Toyota hired actors or used an actual family is irrelevent. There are a whole lot more people like the ones portrayed than there are enthusiasts who care more about the driving experience as opposed to reliability/functionality.

bubba. that's exactly the point infinty lineup made on page 1.