Theft prevention tip

[White Comet]

both of you knock it off. its a pet peeve of mine when someone gets pissed and then says they were joking

[tramp_drift240]

now srsly, what's the ECU have to "relearn" after you disconnect the battery?

i thought battery cutoff was a common thing for theft prevention.

[90_rb20]

I believe that the ECU will actually log very small bits of information so that it can "learn" the driving that it will be getting on a day to day basis. Random hard accelerations, all the time hard accelerations, just cruising period. I know that Ive driven two different Audi's and one was pampered and one was raced, and it seemed like the one that was raced had a quicker response engine wise to what was going on.

EDIT: Of course that was with the butt dyno, which may be broken at any given time.

[tramp_drift240]

hmmm. i dont know how big of a deal it would be to be disconnecting the battery, but seeing how ive gone throuhg 3 or so in the past few months with my car, my ecu sees a lot of "forgetting"

oh well. ill just do the fuel pump kill and the starter kill. eh?

[fourLUG_hero]

If you disconnect your battery, what will power your alarm system ? Duracell ? Energizer ? Starter cutoff, fuel cutoff, and a good alarm would make you good with the run of the mill thieves. But if a thief really wants your car, he'll tow it.

[tramp_drift240]

alarms normally have backup batteries for that reason, actually.

and no one's gonna tow my car, i dont think itll work.

it definitely doesnt fit on a flatbed, and im pretty sure the claw wouldnt fit under my car either.

note - theft prevention: extremely low ride height.

[nissan~240sx]

ummm i dunno if anyone else has said it but a quick release steering wheel is your best bet

you cant drive a car without one

i would also go with a fuel pump switch, battery turn on/off switch, and maybe just a simple car alarm would do.

[Clawhammer]

OP: Cutting off your tow hooks = fail.

Guy trying to post pictures: Clear your cache...Even when I go to the original site where you got the pic from the pic doesn't work. (http://007central.tripod.com/cars.htm)

nissan~: People bring their own steering wheels, AND I've heard of thieves driving the car with pliers.

[White Comet]

^ they dont always drive cars away

[tramp_drift240]

if you get the hub lock, it'd be a better idea. then they cant put vicegrips OR their own wheel on.

but yeah, they do tow a lot if they really want it, which White is hinting towards.

so like i said, just dump your car. then they wont be able to put anything under it to take it.

[Clawhammer]

The front tow hooks are still accessible...even with my car lowered and the lip. I towed my car twice in the last 2 days without even taking the bumper off. (My dad's Ram and a tow strap) If a real tow truck was to tow me it'd rip my front bumper off I'm sure...I think if someone is trying to steal your car they're not going to be concerned with damaging it.

[tramp_drift240]

then....

maybe. just maybe. if whenever you park your car, you always lock the column at full lock right or left, then take off the steering wheel and put on the hub locker.

then it wont be able to get towed with just a strap pulling it.

eh eh?

[White Comet]

^ indeed

my security plans are; alarm, fuel cut switch, never park in bad places and let very few know where my car lives. the only people that knows where my 240s parked at are people i trust

[tramp_drift240]

i think ill go with alarm, fuel cut, full lock and hub lock.

sounds like a winning combo to me.

but also, like i said, im in WV, everyone here loves domestics. they wouldnt even be able to part out a 240 if they jacked it.

[fourLUG_hero]

What if they lift up the car from the front and drive with the E-brake still on and/or with it in gear. I doubt they'll be concerned with ripping up a transmission when most S-chassis trannies are interchangeable. Like I said, if a thief REALLY wants your car, he'll tow it. He'll find a way.

[tramp_drift240]

the chances of my car being out somewhere suspicious, without it being in my sight long enough for someone to REALLY figure out how to tow it are very slim.

but i guess ill stop commenting on what i should do to keep my car from getting jacked, since its very very unlikely in my area. rednecks see no need in lowered imports, theyre all about the lifted trucks.

[Dittoz7]

Avoid Tow Theft...Left Her Sleep On Her Frame.

[fourLUG_hero]

Hehe, if you ventured out into a honda forum, you'd be surprised how easily cars get stolen. I've heard instances of cars being stolen right in front of a police station ! Also, there was an instance when a guy was playing Halo 3 at like 4 AM with his car parked right by his window next to him and all he heard was "chichichiVROOOOOM." He made a thread about it in the morning.

[Clawhammer]

I always park out in the open. It takes 3 seconds to break into our cars, even less if you have if you know the other secrets. If someone is going to break into my car they're not gonna have the cover of other cars/ bushes/ buildings. Besides it'll be that much more obvious when the alarm is going off.

zerothread?id=303223

You could always put one of those in a SUPER SECRET place haha. But that's only going to make it take longer for a theif to steal your car. As soon as they get tired of looking for the button they can hotwire that shiz. It's only 5 wires...it took me all of like 3 seconds to hotwire mine to figure out where to put the button.

It's really kind of depressing, how easy it is to steal our cars.

[tramp_drift240]

LOL

and never forget my stories about "lot kids" cars getting towed from the parking lot with them watching.

[Dittoz7]

Surprised How Nobody Has Mentioned The Trunk Monkey....

[Clawhammer]

lolol the trunk monkey is my secret defense...the element of surprise...

[verSat1l3]

I've heard instances of cars being stolen right in front of a police station !

This happened to my roommates piece of crap Oldsmobile. Stolen right across the street from the downtown Baltimore Police station on Baltimore St.

If they want to tow it there is nothing you can do with the car itself to stop it. They can drag it up onto a rollback and be gone. Car thieves don't care about damage either. If they want your's they'll break anything and everything to get it done.

Do a fuel cutoff switch and a starter kill switch. HIDE THEM, or better yet get one of the key code style units. Get a good alarm with shock and interior motion sensors plus a battery backup. If its in your driveway mount a motion sensor facing the car and hook it up to a door chime/buzzer/whatever inside the house.

I think I'll put up a sign similar to this one next to my driveway. That ought to make my intentions clear...

[auto alchemist]

now srsly, what's the ECU have to "relearn" after you disconnect the battery?

i thought battery cutoff was a common thing for theft prevention.

well i dont want to type out everything but a quick search online came up with the basic idea, the ecu has to fine tune the controls do to things like weather conditions, parts being worn, driving conditions, and driving habbits, and resetting your ecu causes all of this data to be lost, which means decreased performance untl it relearns. Only the factory preset maps are saved when you reset the ecu.Your ecu also controls timing, in accordance with what octane rating fuel you are using.

but anyways here is the simple but accurate description that i found online

"The ECU of your car is like its brain. For your car to deliver it’s best performance you have to keep it in a fit condition at all times. This is the only way to ensure that you get the best in both driving as well as handling. Modern day cars do not have manual controls. Nowadays sophisticated technology is being incorporated in the form of computerized controls that guide and ensure Engine performance. Whenever you make a physical intervention the data pertaining to such intervention gets recorded in the memory banks of your car’s computer. The computer uses the mapped data to work out the optimum control conditions in which the engine should function. The ECU shuffles through the tons of data that come to it in the form of readings to decide the course of action that should be taken by the engine to ensure an ideal drive. The ECU tells your engine not only what to do but also how to do it. Thus the ECU in order to make accurate diagnosis on engine control utilizes stored data."

if you want to learn more theres alot of great site where you can find this info.

[addisonblck]

im interested.....

[YOUNG240SX]

F*** bs,do it like the hondas do.unplug the ecu ans call it a day....lol

[fourLUG_hero]

LOL

and never forget my stories about "lot kids" cars getting towed from the parking lot with them watching.

LOL Honda Day 2007 in Englishtown, NJ. 12 cars got stolen right from the car show with owners within visual distance from their vehicles.

[auto alchemist]

F*** bs,do it like the hondas do.unplug the ecu ans call it a day....lol

fuel pump cut off switch, starter switch and battery shut off switch would all do the same exact thing.

and weve already been over the part where disconecting your ecu from a power source is bad lol

[auto alchemist]

and just for the record none of this stuff is 100%, my freinds dad tows cars for a living, with a roll back tow truck it doesnt matter if the car doesnt even have wheels on it, throw the hooks on something on the underside of the car, drag it up on the bed and away we go lol

[BMAR240SX]

LOL Honda Day 2007 in Englishtown, NJ. 12 cars got stolen right from the car show with owners within visual distance from their vehicles.

Your kidding right?