SFR Intake Manifold

[speedforceracing]

I will let, Danny, handle your responses. From my point of view, smells fishy...This is my opinion, and only my opinion.

Intake Manifold is identical except for TB and lower manifold flange.they are substantially different for the 07+ cars.I will post pictures of the intake manifold installed and not installed,Pics of the inside of the manifold and also the dyno charts very soon.Bear with us.We are working with one of our customers with an 08' who will go to an independant dyno to test it. And I am also going to talk with Ricky and see if he wants to get one at a substantial discounted so we can test it on a boosted application with the newer engine.I edited my posts for typos and nothing more.When I type I dont look at the screen.I know its weird but hey I can type 100 words a minute.

Let the truth come out with all your comments. Nor will I need to justify myself anymore as its plain silly now as it shows everything who you really are and how you run your business. Til then, I would love to see those pictures/dynos/correct information in a reasonable time frame.

You have edited your post with additional information. Don't act like I am not following this as well as others.

And Matt from RT will chime in too as we talked earlier. And lets just say he has a competely different opinion then what Danny has.So I will let him speak for himself as well.

I might have added a detail or two here or there in some of my posts but it is hard to keep track of 30+ posts.And I have been qouted so much you can see what has changed and what hasnt.

[QR25DE]

SFR: I get your side of it.
Danny: I get your side.

The kit is a "Kit". I agree way back as it was represented on the site that it would work on a 2009 QR25DE Altima, however, if piping doesn't fit etc, then make your own... I mean... all mine is custom. I bought a QR25DE Kit from eBay and along with friends custom rigged it to work on my car... it took 4+ guys, beer and a good week and a half. The kit was a manifold, turbo, piping and some clamps. Everything else was extra and was painstakingly figured out. SAFC settings, wiring from manuals from the dealer etc.

Danny, no offense to you whatsoever as I have chatted with your briefly on FaceBook and believe you are a great guy (no h0m0 lol), I appreciate your build and the money you have thrown into it, however having a shop do it for you and doing it yourself are two different things, kit or not. Do you even have UpRev loaded on a laptop with your stock roms you should have been provided to monitor and re-tune your car for changing weather etc? With the $700 package you get completed control over your ECU and BCM functions, set up to 5 custom tunes, real time tuning, DTC Disable, primary O2 as a wideband (no need for AEM UEGO), etc. Or did your company just keep everything "under the hood" and give you the keys? Just curious of what you learned out of the whole thing. Just want to see what else you have done with the software on your own to get ideas for what I am going to do with mine. I have reflashed my ECU with a stock UpRev patched rom and have begun playing around with it. On my next days off I'm planning on putting a bypass for the SAFC to start re-tuning with UpRev. In a bind I can reflash to stock and flick a switch or unplug a bypass harness to go back to the SAFC tune. Simple as pie.

SFR: Obviously the kit shouldn't have been labeled on the site for the 2009 Altima... at the time (Back in Dec/Jan 2010) technically it does work just with custom piping etc. I haven't checked the site since, but I remember it clearly as I made a post about it when I found the kit myself.



Anyways:

Again, my request.

1. AfterMarket Clutch is my main request.

[Loop]

That is the issue with SFR comments and website, it is very misleading to the uniformed and informed people.

[QR25DE]

That is the issue with SFR comments and website, it is very misleading to the uniformed and informed people.

I agree, however, they do have a phone number and contact information. If there was any doubt, I would have called them. Only saw pics for the 06~ Altima on their site, I myself would have called. And If I could find the topic I created about it I clearly said it probably wont work unless with custom piping. Looking now...

Again, aftermarket clutch. lol.

[QR25DE]

Bingo: sfr-2-5l-2002-2009-qr25de-turbo-kit-t475441.html

[Ranga14]

Bingo: sfr-2-5l-2002-2009-qr25de-turbo-kit-t475441.html

I remember that convo too.

[Loop]

Thank you for brining that thread up, Dannys post:

My shopped called them and asked them if the kit would fit a coupe. SFR said yes it would work with "slight" modification. So yeah its bs.

The words that SFR uses is to vague and same goes with his first and other post.

[QR25DE]

Thank you for brining that thread up, Dannys post:

My shopped called them and asked them if the kit would fit a coupe. SFR said yes it would work with "slight" modification. So yeah its bs.

The words that SFR uses is to vague and same goes with his first and other post.

Slight: ask to specify what would need to be changed and order parts accordingly.

For a shop, this would have been no big deal unless they cannot custom fab anything.

The main components fit perfectly fine. IE: Manifold, turbo, waste gate, BOV, injectors, etc. Things that would have had to be changed would be possible down pipe and charge piping.


Aftermarket clutch.

[2008AltiCoupeDan]

wtb new clutch +3 lol

[QR25DE]

wtb new clutch +3 lol

ROFL, thats all I wanted someone to notice hahhhahaha

[trayharrell951]

ok listen - I owned both a boosted '08 altima coupe cvt and I now own a 6spd 370z. I can tell you for a fact that even at 5psi the boosted alti would have no problem reeling me in and passing me... in fact the 370z feels a bit slow to me after getting rid of my alti, but that will change in time... [/quote]


no i dont need to listen. You can only base your opinion on assumptions not based on actual results. CVT transmission is crap as we all know and i hope to God nissan does something about that transmission. Thats the main reason why I got rid of my altima and got the z.

[Loop]

Slight: ask to specify what would need to be changed and order parts accordingly.

For a shop, this would have been no big deal unless they cannot custom fab anything.

The main components fit perfectly fine. IE: Manifold, turbo, waste gate, BOV, injectors, etc. Things that would have had to be changed would be possible down pipe and charge piping.


Aftermarket clutch.

I am only going by what danny has posted. You really do not need to explain this to me as I am not the person to explain it too. I am not the one who bought it or is interested. I can only go by what I read on here. In this case, it is true SFR is being vague or else I would of not needed to ask the questions I asked.

[trayharrell951]

it was an altima coupe. also altimas are fwd compared the z is rwd

which means that since it's a FWD, it doesnt have as much drivetrain loss and will put more power to the wheels. the 370z is what, 330 hp? thats 60 more HP then a stock 3.5 altima coupe. don't people try to get about 100 hp out of a forced induction kit? I mean running it safely, without building up the motor. If so, then the coupe would be like 370 HP VS 330 HP... PLUS we cant forget about torque. a 370Z barely has anymore torque then a stock 3.5 altima and a boosted 3.5 altima will have waaaaaay more torque then a 370Z. only other factors could be weight or traction (or driver error). the weight difference isnt enough to off set the HP and Torque difference. maybe your friend had bad tires that can't take the power? or maybe they're just a really really really bad driver of epic proportion the 370z has better handling being that its a RWD and more sporty orientated and it has a lot more potential then the Altima coupe. But I don't believe a stock 370z can beat a boosted 3.5 altima coupe 6 speed... maybe the CVT since they can't boost more th two an pretty much anything without blowing the transmission.

do your research. its not added hp its hp to the wheels. totally two different things.. I drove the altima 3.5 turbo 6 speed. Great car especially with the old 350z engine in it. You guys need to stop saying ohh it would win against the 370z. Have your guys driven the 370z and a boosted 3.5. Theres like one other guy l33th41 on the forum that has driven both. Nevertheless his car was cvt.
Back to the purpose of this thread. I hope SFR Contiunes to develop more FI applications Nissan family. Just wish there was a way to fix the cvt issue.,

[Ranga14]

I am only going by what danny has posted. You really do not need to explain this to me as I am not the person to explain it too. I am not the one who bought it or is interested. I can only go by what I read on here. In this case, it is true SFR is being vague or else I would of not needed to ask the questions I asked.

Let's just let SFR come back with their new test results and then we'll see. If they can't do that then it's case closed. No sense in continuing the he said/she said game.

[Ranga14]

do your research. its not added hp its hp to the wheels. totally two different things.. I drove the altima 3.5 turbo 6 speed. Great car especially with the old 350z engine in it. You guys need to stop saying ohh it would win against the 370z. Have your guys driven the 370z and a boosted 3.5. Theres like one other guy l33th41 on the forum that has driven both. Nevertheless his car was cvt.
Back to the purpose of this thread. I hope SFR Contiunes to develop more FI applications Nissan family. Just wish there was a way to fix the cvt issue.,

Not sure if you saw my post but I stated that I thought you said "350"... For some reason I got that in my head and I've raced stock 350's and either been neck and neck or beat them so that's what was blowing my mind.

[Loop]

Let's just let SFR come back with their new test results and then we'll see. If they can't do that then it's case closed. No sense in continuing the he said/she said game.

I would like to see their flow charts as well when including their new results. Also including pictures of multiple intake manifolds. It should be no problem as it has been recently released or do they mean in the prototype stages(?)

Your right, hence I am leaving it too Danny as only he knows.

[QR25DE]

Slight: ask to specify what would need to be changed and order parts accordingly.

For a shop, this would have been no big deal unless they cannot custom fab anything.

The main components fit perfectly fine. IE: Manifold, turbo, waste gate, BOV, injectors, etc. Things that would have had to be changed would be possible down pipe and charge piping.


Aftermarket clutch.

I am only going by what danny has posted. You really do not need to explain this to me as I am not the person to explain it too. I am not the one who bought it or is interested. I can only go by what I read on here. In this case, it is true SFR is being vague or else I would of not needed to ask the questions I asked.

Cool cool. We still friends Loop? lol


Edit: Aftermarket clutch.

[Loop]

Only because you have a Turbo Altima

On a side note: I find this thread entertaining with the different types of defense mechanism. Oh do I wish to continue, but Darryl won't let me.

[QR25DE]

Only because you have a Turbo Altima

On a side note: I find this thread entertaining with the different types of defense mechanism. Oh do I wish to continue, but Darryl won't let me.

<3 you and darryl no h o m o

Edit: Aftermarket clutch.

[nismogxs21]

Damn i just read every thread on here & all i c are GUNSHOTS flying back & forth in EVERY DIRECTION

nonetheless it's very entertaining

[soxypoo]

sing " why cant we be friend ???? ..."

[Loop]

Soxypoo, that won't be happening, and it starts with:

We recenlty released a new Speed Force Racing intake manifold for all year Altimas/Maximas.

- No valid information/proof
- Vague
- Oh wait, according to SFR, it has not been tested.

I dont think many people are aware of its existance.

- Advertising
- What existance? Testing waters?
- No proof

We have seen huge gains on N/A car and turbo cars.

- Vague
- Marketing
- No valid information for 07+ Altima's.

So I thought I would let people know about it.

- Advertising
- No valid information for 07+ Altima's
- Testing waters?

Here is a picture and the dyno chart. As you can see the power does not taper off on the top end like the stock manifold! And in some areas there is almost a 30WHP gain!

- Irrelevant to the 07+ Altima's
- 07+ Altima's IM is completely redesigned
- Marketing
- Advertising

For the 2008 Sedans and Coupes, the intake manifolds come with a phenolic spacer to keep the heat from transferring to the intake manifold through the engine

- No valid information/proof
- Could this new PS what makes it fit?
- Lets see if the new IM design will consider the fuel injector, fuel tube, power valve, VIAS, Evap, etc...

[Loop]

More post to come from me...I am no longer chained/restricted...

[Loop]

And just to be clear....cause I dont want this thread to disappear. We are not attempting to sell this product on here, just let people know of its existance

- Can I say desperate? Wait what product? Oh I know, scaming more people in buying your product. It is evidently you have done it to NICO members and I could careless what you say anymore. It is obviously that you will defend yourself and post lies. NUff said

Not exactly.We did not list price or any direct links to this part.

- You are full of crap, you are affiliated and owner of the company. Your username and pictures is enuff said.

We have a 2.5L turbo system now.....However,we need ot get a Coupe or Sedan in here as some of the things are different from the 2003-2007 Altima 2.5's.So we need ot make a couple changes to the ic piping and that sort of thing.

- Stop misleading the people. You are making no sense. What? You said it yourself, the kit is incomplete.

Possibly but it depends on people interest honestly!

- Bahaha, stop trying to test wasters.

We will post some new pics of it installed on an 07+ very soon.This dyno was done by one of our customers.

- Where are the pictures you speak of? What kind of company does not have pictures of their own product? Do you even have renderings of your NEW IM? It does not take long at all to post pictures. Even my little sister is capable of doing this.

I posted all year Altimas and Maximas in my post.Yes the testing was done on 02-06.Yes we will test it out on an 07-10 six speed as the CVT is not too dyno friendly from our experience.

- No, stop misleading and testing waters. You are doing it very wrong. Did you just contradict yourself? You make no sense at all. Whatever happened to it being released?

I didnt make any false claims. I was letting people know that this is available.

- This is utter crap. No proof or valid information to back up what you are saying.

[Loop]

To be continued...after I come back eating....

[dldjros69]

No my friend we didnt do anything based off of your car since I have never heard about or seen your car from RT with the exception of...it did well on the dyno..This QR2.5L turbo system was first introduced for the Senta Spec-v in 2003.

Your gains and your clams have changed on your site since my car has been finished. It just seems fishy like your business practices.

I said we were not perfect.But in no way shape or form have we ever screwed anyone over.Even you Danny. Found out the kit wouldnt fit that specific year and model of car and worked something out with RT to save them a ton of time designing a new exhaust manifold and took back all the other parts and returned their money.

You should have done proper research before shipping a 4,500 dollar kit to somebody. This isnt a freaken intake for 300 dollars. Trial and error on my time isnt how this works. Thanx for the exhaust manifold - not sure what you charged them or me. I will be discussing this with them tomorrow.

And Matt from RT will chime in too as we talked earlier. And lets just say he has a competely different opinion then what Danny has.So I will let him speak for himself as well.

Id love to hear what Matt and Vince have to say, DONT WORRY ILL ASK THEM TOMORROW.
i doubt its different - unless you totally back doored me and gave it to them cheap so they can make money and still charge me, that is the only way they would be kissing your a** as you put it.

SFR: I get your side of it.
Danny: I get your side.

The kit is a "Kit". I agree way back as it was represented on the site that it would work on a 2009 QR25DE Altima, however, if piping doesn't fit etc, then make your own... I mean... all mine is custom. I bought a QR25DE Kit from eBay and along with friends custom rigged it to work on my car... it took 4+ guys, beer and a good week and a half. The kit was a manifold, turbo, piping and some clamps. Everything else was extra and was painstakingly figured out. SAFC settings, wiring from manuals from the dealer etc.

Danny, no offense to you whatsoever as I have chatted with your briefly on FaceBook and believe you are a great guy (no **** lol), I appreciate your build and the money you have thrown into it, however having a shop do it for you and doing it yourself are two different things, kit or not. Do you even have UpRev loaded on a laptop with your stock roms you should have been provided to monitor and re-tune your car for changing weather etc? With the $700 package you get completed control over your ECU and BCM functions, set up to 5 custom tunes, real time tuning, DTC Disable, primary O2 as a wideband (no need for AEM UEGO), etc. Or did your company just keep everything "under the hood" and give you the keys? Just curious of what you learned out of the whole thing. Just want to see what else you have done with the software on your own to get ideas for what I am going to do with mine. I have reflashed my ECU with a stock UpRev patched rom and have begun playing around with it. On my next days off I'm planning on putting a bypass for the SAFC to start re-tuning with UpRev. In a bind I can reflash to stock and flick a switch or unplug a bypass harness to go back to the SAFC tune. Simple as pie.

SFR: Obviously the kit shouldn't have been labeled on the site for the 2009 Altima... at the time (Back in Dec/Jan 2010) technically it does work just with custom piping etc. I haven't checked the site since, but I remember it clearly as I made a post about it when I found the kit myself.

Reguardless of how my kit was made it was misrepesented in the first place.

There is no need for me to do it myself, my kit performs like second to none. I have no fear about my kit, its perfect. There was no trial and error or abuse to my car. I took it to professionals who knew what they were doing.

I did not pay to have the uprev cable for myself, so no its not on my lap top. They did everything and i payed them dearly. I wouldnt know where to begin tuning it. Thats all them. Ive learned some stuff nothing im going to get into on this thread. This thread is about their failures, sorry but at this point im fired up.

Slight: ask to specify what would need to be changed and order parts accordingly.

For a shop, this would have been no big deal unless they cannot custom fab anything.

The main components fit perfectly fine. IE: Manifold, turbo, waste gate, BOV, injectors, etc. Things that would have had to be changed would be possible down pipe and charge piping.

All that garbage got sent back and they used better parts besides the manifold.

ISNT THAT WHAT MAKING A TURBO IS???? DOWN PIPE AND INTERCOOLER PIPING. come on

Ive been at work all day. Finally got time to respond. i have nothing else to donate now.

But loop nice work - keep it up.

[Ranga14]

Looks like the battlelines are being drawn.

[Loop]

You win by chasing off potential sponsers?????? Hmmmm.....maybe I am missing something.We sponser alot of baords and this could have just been another one.....................but if your the mod or owner....then you are not doing it right and this is from a business owner for 15 years.

- In fact, yes, shady companies like you is what your are missing. The power of not being a mod or owner rules! Oh do I love the freedom of not being one. 15 years of a business owner, your pathetic and it shows it.

I have read some of your other comments and replies and you defintiely are an *******!!!!!

- Tough luck. Did I hurt your feelings? Did I make you cry? You are going downhill.

and also look closely at the dyno for the Altima intake manifold.There is only a peak of 6 horsepower which is nothing special.It is the other spots in the rpm range where it makes significant more power then the stock plenum

- Ha, from the owner himself saying it...At least you are admiting it.

Ha ha..... you had to go back over five years ago to a posting on a potential manifold we were going to be offering but never did????? Sounds desperate.That manifold was scrapped in favor of our new one.


Next..............

- Nothing is funny at all when showing facts. It clearly shows your business ethics and how you run your business. Are you really laughing at that? Shady as it can be. One second...I hope this thread doesn't turn out same one I posted. I am desperate? You are the desperate one by creating this thread. Why so defensive?

Actually your done cause you brought up a bunch of BS that doesnt support what you are saying! I replied ot everyhting with an explanation.I am not saying we are perfect.But we dont mistreat our customers,we dont mislead them and we dont leave them hanging. And that is exactly what you were insinuating.And the thing is we dont need to do that to our customers.We build nice parts and can make any car fast.We have 8000 sq.ft of car heaven with lifts,a dyno,a full machine shop and cars like 350Z,GTR,G35,Supra,NSX,BMW,Porsche,Evo,etc.... here right now.Why are we gonna ruin our business by lying and mistreating people???????

- Not at all, you are only assuming I am, and your wrong. Now I am coming right back at you. I laughed hard when I read this from your website "You are guaranteed a top quality product in a timely manner." This is shown to be incorrect. Nor will I care about your excuses anymore. Why? You are full of crap.

ASK LOOP???????LOL Seriously,it will not be needed for a boosted CVT. Our turbo system can easily overwhelm the CVT if you throw more then 5 psi at it. And you can easily run up to about 10 psi safely on the VQ35.But with the CVT transmission,that is not possible so the transmission is the limiting factor. A six speed is a different story.

-I love it!!! It shows how foolish and unprofessional you really are. No, in fact, don't even recommend anything to a CVT owner with your misleading comments. We all know the CVT fails even with the smallest boost and without boost.

[Hussain]

it was an altima coupe. also altimas are fwd compared the z is rwd

which means that since it's a FWD, it doesnt have as much drivetrain loss and will put more power to the wheels. the 370z is what, 330 hp? thats 60 more HP then a stock 3.5 altima coupe. don't people try to get about 100 hp out of a forced induction kit? I mean running it safely, without building up the motor. If so, then the coupe would be like 370 HP VS 330 HP... PLUS we cant forget about torque. a 370Z barely has anymore torque then a stock 3.5 altima and a boosted 3.5 altima will have waaaaaay more torque then a 370Z. only other factors could be weight or traction (or driver error). the weight difference isnt enough to off set the HP and Torque difference. maybe your friend had bad tires that can't take the power? or maybe they're just a really really really bad driver of epic proportion the 370z has better handling being that its a RWD and more sporty orientated and it has a lot more potential then the Altima coupe. But I don't believe a stock 370z can beat a boosted 3.5 altima coupe 6 speed... maybe the CVT since they can't boost more th two an pretty much anything without blowing the transmission.

do your research. its not added hp its hp to the wheels. totally two different things.. I drove the altima 3.5 turbo 6 speed. Great car especially with the old 350z engine in it. You guys need to stop saying ohh it would win against the 370z. Have your guys driven the 370z and a boosted 3.5. Theres like one other guy l33th41 on the forum that has driven both. Nevertheless his car was cvt.
Back to the purpose of this thread. I hope SFR Contiunes to develop more FI applications Nissan family. Just wish there was a way to fix the cvt issue.,[/quote]


I dont need to drive them both, I've already seen the numbers. stock 370Z does a 13.3 in the 1/4 mile. 08coupe or what ever his screen name was had a dark slate 3.5se 6 speed with the turbo kit from that white altima coupe at the SEMA show a couple years ago and he did 12's in the 1/4 mile. doing 12's is quicker then doing mid to low 13's.... I agree that the 370z has more potential BUT a stock 370z can't win against a boosted 3.5se A/C 6 speed UNLESS the A/C driver was the worst driver in the history of cars or the tires were horrible and couldnt grip anything

[rjdmmfl1]

I like turtles...