SFR Intake Manifold

[trayharrell951]

in all truth loop

I wish more companies will put more R&D into the altima community. Theres so much you can do to the altima. This is why I went with the 370z so many options to much more power and fun to drive. I wanted to boost the 3.5 and realized that if I did it a stock z would kill it. No questions asked. But more power to companies trying to support the altima community.

lmao @ stock z killing a boosted 3.5

its be proven nuff said. altima is ok not as fast as a z

[Ranga14]

Where's the proof?

[trayharrell951]

Where's the proof?

a buddy of mine has it. 3.5 custom greddy turbo kit 6 speed. we went to the track and it beat em two car lengths.

or if you dont believe me

get your car boosted then we can talk after I put my car back to stock lol

[Ranga14]

What year/model? Sounds like a bad driver to me.

[trayharrell951]

What year/model? Sounds like a bad driver to me.

no sounds like an altima wont beat a 370z

[Ranga14]

What year/model? Sounds like a bad driver to me.

no sounds like an altima wont beat a 370z

For some reason I thought you said 350. Although aren't stock 370z's only putting down in the 280whp range? At least from various dynos I've seen. That's still around 40whp less than a low psi 3.5. And you also never really mentioned what year/model the altima was, for all I know, it's some 5+ years old.

[dom_cull]

I'm curious how this would affect a boosted CVT?

ASK LOOP???????LOL Seriously,it will not be needed for a boosted CVT. Our turbo system can easily overwhelm the CVT if you throw more then 5 psi at it. And you can easily run up to about 10 psi safely on the VQ35.But with the CVT transmission,that is not possible so the transmission is the limiting factor. A six speed is a different story.

So there is no way you could turbo a cvt?

[trayharrell951]

it was an altima coupe. also altimas are fwd compared the z is rwd

[Hussain]

it was an altima coupe. also altimas are fwd compared the z is rwd

which means that since it's a FWD, it doesnt have as much drivetrain loss and will put more power to the wheels. the 370z is what, 330 hp? thats 60 more HP then a stock 3.5 altima coupe. don't people try to get about 100 hp out of a forced induction kit? I mean running it safely, without building up the motor. If so, then the coupe would be like 370 HP VS 330 HP... PLUS we cant forget about torque. a 370Z barely has anymore torque then a stock 3.5 altima and a boosted 3.5 altima will have waaaaaay more torque then a 370Z. only other factors could be weight or traction (or driver error). the weight difference isnt enough to off set the HP and Torque difference. maybe your friend had bad tires that can't take the power? or maybe they're just a really really really bad driver of epic proportion the 370z has better handling being that its a RWD and more sporty orientated and it has a lot more potential then the Altima coupe. But I don't believe a stock 370z can beat a boosted 3.5 altima coupe 6 speed... maybe the CVT since they can't boost more than pretty much anything without blowing the transmission.

[dldjros69]

Hello guy. Im sorry it took me so long to reply. I got a pm from loop shortly after i got to the bar last night. I told him i was drunk and i would address this in the morning. So here i am.

First off before i get into details SFR has left a bad taste in my mouth and will not recommend them to anyone. I would rather not do business with a company like this, and will not in the future.

All of our kits have a lead time of four weeks!!!I tell the customer that when ordering.Ask any of them! And i am assuming this was Anthony with a six speed.But I dont know for sure becasue there is no dldjros69 in our quickbooks! Like I said post the person real name so i can verify them as being one of our customers! But is this was Anthony.......We didnt know it was for a six speed.Once he got it the wastegate had an issue fitting with the linkage on six speed and the intercooler pipe needed to be modified so we paid his shop to mod the car for him.We used our money to pay them to take care of him!!!! and then we recently got a six speed in here and re-did our jigs to work with the six speed!!!Stuff happens dude but it doenst mean we treat anyone badly.And in this case we went out of our way to make it right for the customer and basically gave back all of our profits to get him on the road and turboed!!!

So i went to the SFR website -

1. It says in stock "1". There is NO NEED for a 4 week wait time if that siht is in stock
2. When they took their sweet a** time to get my kit to me, turbonetics had an issue, and took another 2 weeks to get me the turbo
3. Speed Force Racing is now offering a single turbo system for the 2002-2009 Nissan Altima Sedan with the 2.5L QR25 engine. STILL ON THEIR WEBSITE - NO IT DOES NOT FIT - TAKE THAT SIHT DOWN
4. Who is anythony. Im Danny Rosario, RT tuning guys are Vince H. and Matt P.
5. Not 100% on this but SFR ended up giving my guys the run around about $$$ and returning of the kit.

Tim, I have seen your work personally on Danny Rosario's Coupe. I haven't yet gotten a dire in it as the only time I saw it was during the Carlisle event in May and he had just picked it up. But he did post up some dyno numbers that were very impressive for a 2.5.

Big D sorry to call you out but NOOOO.

None of the work on my car is from SFR. Thanx for the manifold SFR, thats it. (and the turbonetics turbo but that dont count). Everything else got sent back.

My kit is a custom kit build from the ground up by RT tuning. Everything is 100% RT Tuning from the Piping to the 2.5in straight exhaust. They get the credit not these guys.

It took RT tuning 60 days to do my car but most of the problems were caused by SFR.

Im actually dropping my car off at RT tuning tomorrow to have an 8lb spring put in and having it retuned to be more agressive and account for my axle back. So i will be showing them this thread so they can give some input, and then im gonna show them Ricky's thread so we can have a chuckle.

Thats all for now if i forget anything ill post it up.

[dldjros69]

Just saw this at the bottom of the page

This system does not fit the 2.5L Coupe!

Whoops

Arent the engine bays the same for the 2.5 sedan and coupe.

That kit dont fit at all. The first problem they noticed is that the throttle body is angled on 07 plus altimas. The 02-06 is straight.

[dldjros69]

I just wanted to let you guys know that there is now a turbocharger option for all you 2.5L QR25 Altimas. This system was specifically designed for the QR25 Altima. It is a low boost system and will add over 100 horsepower a the wheels to your QR engine.The test car was only run at 4.5psi and it picked up about 80WHP.The plan is to re-tune it at a slightly higher boost level in a week or two.Stay tuned!

^Taken from their website

This has changed since i lasted looked at it?

This system bumps up the power level to 295WHP! This is about 345 horsepower as measured at the flywheel.

^ where did they get that crap from?

My car is running 6psi and its getting 250 whp, im bumping it up to 8 psi and hoping for 300whp.

It seems after they saw the results of my kit they inflated their claims on their website.

GET OF THE BOARD

[dldjros69]

Oh and one more thing

As i was reading this all i kept thinking is, is this dude really arguing with loop?

How unprofessional is that? Dude you made your company look like a joke.

YOU WANNA KNOW TRUE BUSINESS MEN

Kyle from stillen and Joe from racing line. Check out their posts my man...

Ive seen somebody attack Joe before and he handled it like a true gentleman.

Madd love to the trues in the community

[SHIFT_COUPE]

The people have spoken

[toxik]

[l33th41]

it was an altima coupe. also altimas are fwd compared the z is rwd

But I don't believe a stock 370z can beat a boosted 3.5 altima coupe 6 speed... maybe the CVT since they can't boost more than pretty much anything without blowing the transmission.

ok listen - I owned both a boosted '08 altima coupe cvt and I now own a 6spd 370z. I can tell you for a fact that even at 5psi the boosted alti would have no problem reeling me in and passing me... in fact the 370z feels a bit slow to me after getting rid of my alti, but that will change in time...

[surmanm]

WAD

[Ranga14]

Hard to tell if this thread is full of win or fail.

[speedforceracing]

Hello guy. Im sorry it took me so long to reply. I got a pm from loop shortly after i got to the bar last night. I told him i was drunk and i would address this in the morning. So here i am.

First off before i get into details SFR has left a bad taste in my mouth and will not recommend them to anyone. I would rather not do business with a company like this, and will not in the future.

So i went to the SFR website -

1. It says in stock "1". There is NO NEED for a 4 week wait time if that siht is in stock
2. When they took their sweet a** time to get my kit to me, turbonetics had an issue, and took another 2 weeks to get me the turbo
3. Speed Force Racing is now offering a single turbo system for the 2002-2009 Nissan Altima Sedan with the 2.5L QR25 engine. STILL ON THEIR WEBSITE - NO IT DOES NOT FIT - TAKE THAT SIHT DOWN
4. Who is anythony. Im Danny Rosario, RT tuning guys are Vince H. and Matt P.
5. Not 100% on this but SFR ended up giving my guys the run around about $$$ and returning of the kit.

First of all Danny I dont know who you are.It is true RT tuning bought a kit for your car.So we sent out the kit for an early model car as we have not yet gone into production for the late model cars.Its as simple as that. There was a communication error. Matt at RT decided he would use what he could from the kit and sent the rest of the stuff back to us. We refunded him the difference and that was that. As far as how long it took them,we have no control over it.But custom fab doenst just happen overnight.There is alot of time invloved in it!

Please also realize that we have three different kits for the QR25 now! Each one is slightly diffferent and the early model QR25 wont fit the late model and the late model wont fit the early model and the one for the Sentra is different as well. And then on the 3.5L Altimas there are five different kits for the same damn car! There is one for the four speed auto,the five speed auto,the manual trans,one for late model CVT and one for late model six speed.At this time we will not sell the 3.5L system for the late model sedan as we need ot get a car in here to test fit it. So there could potentially be fseven different kits for the Altima! And this is probabaly one of the reasons why there is not alot of aftemarket support for the Altimas!I mean jesus Christ! Doing R&D for five different kits is just insane from a time and a financial standpoint.

Anthony is a customer who bought a 3.5LCVT kit and he had a six speed.So some changes had to be made for his kit to work on the six speed.

[DJ_B_Easy]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1U10_Po ... re=related

[speedforceracing]

ASK LOOP???????LOL Seriously,it will not be needed for a boosted CVT. Our turbo system can easily overwhelm the CVT if you throw more then 5 psi at it. And you can easily run up to about 10 psi safely on the VQ35.But with the CVT transmission,that is not possible so the transmission is the limiting factor. A six speed is a different story.[/quote]


So there is no way you could turbo a cvt?[/quote]


We turbo them all the time but have to keep the boost down!


Tim

[speedforceracing]

I just wanted to let you guys know that there is now a turbocharger option for all you 2.5L QR25 Altimas. This system was specifically designed for the QR25 Altima. It is a low boost system and will add over 100 horsepower a the wheels to your QR engine.The test car was only run at 4.5psi and it picked up about 80WHP.The plan is to re-tune it at a slightly higher boost level in a week or two.Stay tuned!

^Taken from their website

This has changed since i lasted looked at it?

This system bumps up the power level to 295WHP! This is about 345 horsepower as measured at the flywheel.

^ where did they get that crap from?

My car is running 6psi and its getting 250 whp, im bumping it up to 8 psi and hoping for 300whp.

It seems after they saw the results of my kit they inflated their claims on their website.

GET OF THE BOARD

No my friend we didnt do anything based off of your car since I have never heard about or seen your car from RT with the exception of...it did well on the dyno..This QR2.5L turbo system was first introduced for the Senta Spec-v in 2003.So it has been out for seven years..We just adapted it to the Altima because of alot of inquiries from customers.On the Sentras it was pretty easy to make 300WHP with this kit using our exhaust manifold,tubro,intercooler,etc...so you should be able to do that too


Tim

[speedforceracing]

Oh and one more thing

As i was reading this all i kept thinking is, is this dude really arguing with loop?

How unprofessional is that? Dude you made your company look like a joke.

YOU WANNA KNOW TRUE BUSINESS MEN

Kyle from stillen and Joe from racing line. Check out their posts my man...

Ive seen somebody attack Joe before and he handled it like a true gentleman.

Madd love to the trues in the community

I felt Loops initial response was unwarranted! Especially when I am trying to see about becoming a sponser on this board.And we are every serious about this.If Loop was a mod or the owner,I wouldnt do it.....ha ha ha.

I said we were not perfect.But in no way shape or form have we ever screwed anyone over.Even you Danny. Found out the kit wouldnt fit that specific year and model of car and worked something out with RT to save them a ton of time designing a new exhaust manifold and took back all the other parts and returned their money.

[speedforceracing]

Defense mechnasim at its best. All you have answered is my irrelevant questions and I really do thank you for editting them multiple times as it will explain many peoples answer including the owners and myself. But you are managing to avoid my main questions.

Stop posting false information on these intake manifolds and update a new picture installed on a 07+ Altima. I would love to see an independent dyno.

Are you claiming you have not tested it on an 07+ now? Or are you coming to NICO to gauge interest?

You are posting information from an 02-06 Intake manifold and dyno. Please update your information before posting claims.

Still waiting on the 07+ Altima Intake Manifold installed pictures.

Another question, the picture you posted, is that the same intake manifold that is used on the 07+ Altima?

Intake Manifold is identical except for TB and lower manifold flange.they are substantially different for the 07+ cars.I will post pictures of the intake manifold installed and not installed,Pics of the inside of the manifold and also the dyno charts very soon.Bear with us.We are working with one of our customers with an 08' who will go to an independant dyno to test it. And I am also going to talk with Ricky and see if he wants to get one at a substantial discounted so we can test it on a boosted application with the newer engine.I edited my posts for typos and nothing more.When I type I dont look at the screen.I know its weird but hey I can type 100 words a minute.

[jewelz505]

im kinda interested in this intake manifold, gotta wait n see the dyno results and proof that if fits the 08+ altima coupes (pics)!!

[speedforceracing]

im kinda interested in this intake manifold, gotta wait n see the dyno results and proof that if fits the 08+ altima coupes (pics)!!

Soon enough!



Tim

[crayzitalian3]

would this manifold be fore the 3.5 or 2.5? If it was for the 2.5, would it even make a difference in power because if Nissan redesigned the manifold to flow better, how much more could you alter the design (besides weight and air flow) to the OEM to really maximize performance? I am just curious because i am planning on getting rid my car next year, but if there is a GB and the price is right for a good amount of power, I might possibly do it. Another thing that is holding me back is that, if this does put down a good amount of power, would the CVT be able to manage this for a long time. That should be another thing to consider for the CVT's

[Ranga14]

I find it refreshing that Tim responds to every post without backing down.

It's really hard for me to judge his company and I caution others on making any snap judgments based off of arguments in this thread.

I look forward to seeing the 08+ test results.

[speedforceracing]

I find it refreshing that Tim responds to every post without backing down.

It's really hard for me to judge his company and I caution others on making any snap judgments based off of arguments in this thread.

I look forward to seeing the 08+ test results.

Haha.It is easy enough to type us into google and see what pops up.If a crapload of bad stuff pops up.......then maybe you should be leary. LOL. But it doesnt!


Tim

[Loop]

I will let, Danny, handle your responses. From my point of view, smells fishy...This is my opinion, and only my opinion.

Intake Manifold is identical except for TB and lower manifold flange.they are substantially different for the 07+ cars.I will post pictures of the intake manifold installed and not installed,Pics of the inside of the manifold and also the dyno charts very soon.Bear with us.We are working with one of our customers with an 08' who will go to an independant dyno to test it. And I am also going to talk with Ricky and see if he wants to get one at a substantial discounted so we can test it on a boosted application with the newer engine.I edited my posts for typos and nothing more.When I type I dont look at the screen.I know its weird but hey I can type 100 words a minute.

Let the truth come out with all your comments. Nor will I need to justify myself anymore as its plain silly now as it shows everything who you really are and how you run your business. Til then, I would love to see those pictures/dynos/correct information in a reasonable time frame.

You have edited your post with additional information. Don't act like I am not following this as well as others.