Screw lil Wayne and all the music on the radio and MTV. pure garbage

[Papi Chulo]

Yeaaaaaaaah

[kornmanz]

have you been driving the 240 in the snow.

Yeah I went twice, it was funner than ****.

[LeroyBrown]

Yeah I went twice, it was funner than ****.

yeah i know for real yo. the only thing i hate is seeing my car dirty.

[phanatikz32]

hell ya fam, one be lo said it best that **** is hip pop not hip hop, rappers now day have no knowledge of what hip hop is and dont know the history of this ****, they just in it for the fame. screw those clowns man. niggas need to be bumpin mecca and the soul brotha instead of plies and soulja boy. i'm not tryin to preach so i'll just break it down simply

MAINSTREAM = FAILUNDERGROUND = WIN

anyone who respects real music visit myspace.com/analogarchitects

[RCA]

This is an easy answer.He is marketable. He sells records because he is Pop Culture not because he is a good rapper / hip hop artist.50 Cent is a perfect equal. At his prime he had a 6 pack and pleanty of million dollar beats so guess what he ruled the game as well.

But serioulsy when lil wayne claims himself to be the best rapper alive it and you cant speak english that is a problem.The only people that agree with this are people in his camp, the people he has collaborated with and Robin Thicke

Also I have seen him live in concert and he was too blasted to perform. MTV music awards he spent his performance barely holding his pants at his knees.

That plus he giggles on a track...Who does that

this is by far the most pointless post in the entire thread...it deems no responce..

As far as the OP posted tracks...bro, if thats your ****, play it...I know cats that like the raw basement, old school sound...nothing wrong with it...but to get on here and post some weak ***, fake gangsta boyz II men track talking hard about the best in the game is laughable...I could see postin up some Pac, any number of other greats....Wayne would toast them cats, blunted mindlessly

Yea it was pointless to list the things that makes Wayne horrible. I spend time with people who really listen to whats going on. And it is an unanimous decision. Wayne < Trash

He is Pop, no dout about it. He sells records but as an artist & performer he is sh*t.

People like you fuel his record sales and there are plenty of people who enjoy him so he gets magazine covers and MTV/Radio air time.

It is really that simple...I am sorry you cant realize that

[LeroyBrown]

Yea it was pointless to list the things that makes Wayne horrible. I spend time with people who really listen to whats going on. And it is an unanimous decision. Wayne < Trash

He is Pop, no dout about it. He sells records but as an artist & performer he is sh*t.

People like you fuel his record sales and there are plenty of people who enjoy him so he gets magazine covers and MTV/Radio air time.

It is really that simple...I am sorry you cant realize that

thanks bro i agree with you 100% to bad everyone else is hypnotized.

[RCA]

No problem.

Some people are just way to main stream to notice any thing else.

[LeroyBrown]

No problem.

Some people are just way to main stream to notice any thing else.

what is it bro i try to show them the light with great music but they keep telling me lil wayne is the best rapper alive. i can never convince anyone.

[arabdrifter]

well ill have to agree with ya on lil wayne as a coulda-woulda-shoulda no nothing sh*t rapper! these kind of azz hats pretend to sound good when they themselves have no idea what the message is..therefore giving rap a bad name. rap these days has turned too corporate where rapping about hard life in the ghetto is now about money, fame, nasty hotchie mammas, cars & etc.

in my eyes till this day 2-pac is & will always remain as the greatest rapper that ever lived. he had amazing songs, very inspiriational, never turned corp. taked about the truth of his hood and brought it mainstream.

other rappers such as bone thugs, dre, m&m(my second favorite),snoop, & biggie are just some of the best rappers that bring it.

people who talk about money & b.s. need to be shot. rap is about the hard life, the hood, and just things that the simple can relate to

[LeroyBrown]

rap is about the hard life, the hood, and just things that the simple can relate to

damn bro that is so true i am saving what you just said. maby thats why i like the real stuff because iv been through the same stuff such as them. thats why i can relate to them and i feel where there coming from.

[93coupe]

Wu Tang is in Baltimore for new years eve and I'll be there!

Who has me on some Reef the Lost cauze, AOTP, Doap Nixon, Outerspace, Snowgoons?

[adrianfromthecastle]

rap these days has turned too corporate where rapping about hard life in the ghetto is now about money, fame, nasty hotchie mammas, cars & etc.

I disagree... so you're saying rappers have NEVER talked about money before? 2Pac never talked about fame? Too $hort never talked about nasty hotchies (wtf is hotchie? I think you mean hootchie). Snoop never talked about his 64?

people who talk about money & b.s. need to be shot. rap is about the hard life, the hood, and just things that the simple can relate to.

Lil wayne has always been who he has for the past decade and represents a tradition that has always been even before him. His personality has NEVER changed. He's a person that represents hard earned hustlin money, and isn't afraid to floss that, aka Southern Rap. Every other southern rapper is the same, whether mainstream or underground. Look at No-Limit Records and all their rappers albums. Its all bling representing money and fame whether it be from sellin rock or pimpin or whatever. They wear gold fronts for goodness sake. They'll fit diamonds and gold where ever they can to show what they got. THIS ISN'T NEW! The whole swagger attitude that makes you wanna say, "yeah, my chain is thicker, my peice is bigger/larger, my rims are bigger, I got more money than you, I got more karats than you... etc" isn't new. Three 6 Mafia, Rich Boy, Young Buck, Slim Thug, Big Boi, Lil Flip, Luda, etc... all portray a southern rap that has decades of traditions of flossing bling. If they don't rap it, they still show it (i.e. chains, ear rings, fronts, pinky rings etc) Like I said, you're comparing a different genre of rap and hip hop and considering it as a "new school vs old school" when it's not. LIL WAYNE ISN'T NEW, nor is his attitude. He didn't just pop up last year or a couple of years ago. Southern Rap has always been around... its just been their turn to shine, and a lot of people don't get that.

and if you don't think gangsta rap doesn't revolve around gettin money, hoes, drugs... I don't know wtf you've been perceiving when you listen to the radio. Every respectable gansta rapper has revolved their carreer over them, from Dipset to Luniz. aaand if you don't think that Lil Wayne's rap hasn't revolved around hard life, puttin work on the corner, or reppin pirus... then you don't listen to Lil Wayne. You're nothing but a radio listener.

Mid to late 90's belonged to the West Coast and East Coast. Radios and media (mtv) only played like pac, biggie, puffy, dre, black rob, you get the point... you'd get lucky to hear Southern Rap on west coast radios in that time. Every now and then you'll get like Outkast or like a Bun B feature.. but that's about it.

Now rap's mainstream focus has lately focused a lot to the south. T.I., T Pain, Wayne, Andree 3000, Lil Jon and a hand full of others is ALL you hear on the radios. That's the South.

Solja boy... now that's something I can agree with when you wanna talk crap. But I don't see how Lil Wayne relates to Solja Boy at all. Lil Wayne can rap and has made a career off of his talent. Solja Boy's songs contain less than 5 English words that have been repeated throughout the whole song along with some cheesey *** beat. He got lucky off of youtube. that's it..

Don't compare 2 different genre's of rap like its the same. ignorant mistake.

[arabdrifter]

all of these n****s are just wanna be's and trying to get their 5min of fame! they know nothing of the struggle that people like 2pac & biggie had to endure.

the "hood" of 2day is mommy & daddy saying no to buying these suckers their fake azz gold teeth or some chump ice link chain.

LIL WAYNE: ur nothing but a "has been that used to have talent, but gave in to corp. & media b.s.!"

to the o.p.- its ur opinion in the end that counts. you know what's good/bad. id look into 2pacs greatest hits & mackavelli! prolly known as the 2greatest albums in history for its message and telling the true story of life in the hood . btw..I've never herd a rapper treat their mom with the amount of respect let alone a song dedicated to her: DEAR MOMMA"..like 2pac did!

2PAC: may u rest in peace g! u inspired me in many ways through ur music as it helped millions as well through hard times. true artist of his time..too bad ur not here to wipe the floor with these fake azz niggas..lol. u were even #1 in ur grave!!!..yet no rapper before or after u has ever accomplished that..peace

[adrianfromthecastle]

all of these niggas are just wanna be's and trying to get their 5min of fame! they know nothing of the struggle that people like 2pac & biggie had to endure.

did you not read my post?

all of these niggas are just wanna be's and trying to get their 5min of fame! they know nothing of the struggle that people like 2pac & biggie had to endure.

the "hood" of 2day is mommy & daddy saying no to buying these suckers their fake azz gold teeth or some chump ice link chain.

LIL WAYNE: ur nothing but a "has been that used to have talent, but gave in to corp. & media b.s.!"

huh? Lil Wayne's from Hollygrove... not Beverly Hills... WTF? He has a dead beat dad... and if it wasn't for his rap career, he'd still be selling rock. And his mom isn't freakin Oprah rich either. He's worked for money. He's been doin basement mixtapes and freestyles. He left hundreds of freestyle recording on Baby's voicemail at the age of 14 before he even considered him on a Cash money song. He's earned his pieces his street cred. He put work to be where he's at right now in his carreer.

smells like you're just hating

[Papi Chulo]

Expression is/will always be the soul of music.Music is art.Art is subjective.

What/Why are you guys arguing (about)?

All music has its place. This thread blows d!ck.

[Jesda]

You put the boom-boom into my heart.

[adrianfromthecastle]

tell me wayne doesn't represent hoodhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-LddrDlocl4

only difference now is he's gotten a bit more trendy with his clothes instead of the usual XXXXXXL white T's and such and he's now explored other aspecs of music.. moreso than any other rapper

[adrianfromthecastle]

Expression is/will always be the soul of music.Music is art.Art is subjective.

no i agree. I just don't understand how everyone will say "oh I hate lil wayne" then refer to Solja boy's music. Like wth? How is that even a valid argument?

Rap will always be an interested topic to me because I love it all. I grew up to it. It's very interesting to me on how people perceive rap and where they think its going. I mean, rap itself is a very broad topic.

[MinisterofDOOM]

All music has its place.

This is very true.

Most music's place is well out of my range of hearing.

[Papi Chulo]

I'll try to explain

Lil Wayne = MetallicaSolja boy = Jonas BrothersVery similar yet.... so different.

Maybe not that extreme but that's how I see it. Lil Wayne writes music both to sell records *metallica*, and writes for himself/fans; his well thought out, sincere pieces of music *metallica*.

Solja *** just wants to sell records/entertain the masses like JB.

Amirite?

[adrianfromthecastle]

^ interesting aspect.

I can't say I disagree. Although I dont think I've ever heard a song from Jonas Brothers... I mean, I've seen them on TV and like perform on late night talk shows... but I've never paid attention. Are they Amish?

[Papi Chulo]

I dunno, I'll have to ask my niece.

[f1seb]

i prefer my music to either yell at me or make cool computer sounds.... and sometimes both....

but for real, i listen to everything..... cept rap and country.

only good song on the radio right now: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZBQMJlVXyc

I'm glad to see Pendulum to go and take their own path. They will no longer be regarded as the Prodigy wannabe's and cover band. This ensures them their own mark on music.

[MinisterofDOOM]

I dunno, I'll have to ask my niece.

Or the nearest middle-aged woman.

[LeroyBrown]

tell me wayne doesn't represent hoodhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-LddrDlocl4

only difference now is he's gotten a bit more trendy with his clothes instead of the usual XXXXXXL white T's and such and he's now explored other aspecs of music.. moreso than any other rapper

i cant believe your going to put that bull shiit song and say thats representing the hood who in the hell flashes money in the hood. have you ever even been to the hood.

here are some real songs telling about the hood and how life is growing up in them.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yoakxO5taMQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wl54ABY8VgY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bLVD3uMT ... H9htrQp0ks

i can go on forever I still cant believe you put that ****y song................

[adrianfromthecastle]

i cant believe your going to put that bull shiit song and say thats representing the hood who in the hell flashes money in the hood. have you ever even been to the hood.

first off, yes, I've been to the hood, and I was born and raised in the hood. I was born in East Side Long Beach. I know what its like to get robbed. I know what its like to get shot at. I know what its like to lose friends to gang violence. Search my older threads I started in gen chat a few years ago about a) my house getting robbed with me in it and b) me getting in a fight and some ****ers messed with my car. HAVE YOU? Do they even have hoods in New Mexico?

who in the hell flashes money in the hood.

Leroy Leroy Leroy... you're not reading what I'm saying. I already named a buttload

Lil wayne has always been who he has for the past decade and represents a tradition that has always been even before him. His personality has NEVER changed. He's a person that represents hard earned hustlin money, and isn't afraid to floss that, aka Southern Rap. Every other southern rapper is the same, whether mainstream or underground. Look at No-Limit Records and all their rappers albums. Its all bling representing money and fame whether it be from sellin rock or pimpin or whatever. They wear gold fronts for goodness sake. They'll fit diamonds and gold where ever they can to show what they got. THIS ISN'T NEW! The whole swagger attitude that makes you wanna say, "yeah, my chain is thicker, my peice is bigger/larger, my rims are bigger, I got more money than you, I got more karats than you... etc" isn't new. Three 6 Mafia, Rich Boy, Young Buck, Slim Thug, Big Boi, Lil Flip, Luda, etc... all portray a southern rap that has decades of traditions of flossing bling. If they don't rap it, they still show it (i.e. chains, ear rings, fronts, pinky rings etc) Like I said, you're comparing a different genre of rap and hip hop and considering it as a "new school vs old school" when it's not. LIL WAYNE ISN'T NEW, nor is his attitude. He didn't just pop up last year or a couple of years ago. Southern Rap has always been around... its just been their turn to shine, and a lot of people don't get that.

of course, its not west coast or east coast style like the vids you posted. You wont find large diamond pieces on west coast or east coast rapper. I know west coast rap (Glasses Malone, Game, Guerilla Black, etc) and I know the image we have. Its DIFFERENT. I don't expect ANY of them to wear large peices around their necks or gold and platinum fronts.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yoakxO5taMQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wl54ABY8VgY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bLVD3uMT ... H9htrQp0ks

i can go on forever I still cant believe you put that ****y song................

okay but you still haven't proved anything? You just posted vids of east coast and west coast rappers. Now if you're just straight hating on Southern Rap, that's a different topic. Sounds like to me you've just generalized all of rap like its all the same thing, and southern rap isn't supposed to be recognized. pfff

[ANVIL]

just went through this thread again after my last post yesterday.

adrians_s13 pretty much said everything i wanted to say. you guys are comparing apples to oranges man. you cant compare **** in different times. its like comparing 2001 lakers to the 96 bulls and saying who was better. for people who are so into music or whatever you want to call yourself you sure are ignorant. especially to hate on lil wayne, who came from the underground, built his career around mixtapes.

leroy you should listen to the drought 3. its not his newest stuff but its was just prior to the release of C3. kills it over and over on that one. and to say he is all about money, he gave that double disk mixtape for free. i dont know if you still can but there were tons of places to dl it.

[LeroyBrown]

HAVE YOU? Do they even have hoods in New Mexico?

yes dawg iv been through the whole process. seen it all and done most of it. and yes we have hoods in new mexico. new mexico is one of the poorest states and we have the highest crime rate per capita.

Sounds like to me you've just generalized all of rap like its all the same thing, and southern rap isn't supposed to be recognized.

hip hop and rap is generally the same thing. Souther rap is good like tripple six mafia, young jeezy, project pat, etc.

but little wayne is not hip hop. He is POP.

just agree with me that little wayne is pop and not true hip hop.

just like "Scienz of life" says "many people admire hip hop but not everyone can inter pit hip hop, this takes a certain site and many people are simple to afraid to go where hip hop originates from, hip hop is a strategy that frees you from the traps of the inner city. we dont just look at hip hop as rap music a way to get money or a way to be famous although thats included and belated but hip hop is not defined as that. hip hop is defined by your health your ability to give and receive love your awareness and your wealth.

[s0m3th1ngAZ]

leroy strikes me as a ...how you say...posieur? doesn't really know what he's talking about.

[LeroyBrown]

leroy strikes me as a ...how you say...posieur? doesn't really know what he's talking about.

A posieur shut the hell up. what am i trying to pose as. how do i come off as a posieur. i know everything there is about hip hop the birth of it, the founders the legends. the producers, i have 15k of real hip hop. so i understand every aspect of it.