PS3 Vs. XBOX 360

[LeeSmash2k10]

ok im wondering what you guys think. lol im gettin a game system and was wondering what is better ps3 or xbox 360?

[redtop91]

Dear Lord Baby Jesus.

[LeeSmash2k10]

no imserious i play PC games mainly. sorryfor being such a Noob.

[OldmanPurdy]

General consensus is Xbox 360 and I agree but if you want to play with your friends online then get whatever system they play.

[bmike818]

I have an Xbox 360, I don't have a PS3 or feel the need to get one. Maybe if it was $250 I would pick one up, but for $399 even with Blue Ray...Hecks No!!!

There are more games on the 360 and cheaper too. PS3 fans would this disagree, but everyone is entitled to their own opinions. My vote for you is 360 FTW!!!

[C-Kwik]

Get the system that has and is projected to have the games you want to play most. If its pretty equal, perhaps look towards the peripheral features and price to decide. But ultimately, both are great gaming systems.

[FASTUNZ]

Well i have had a 360 for almost a year now and i don't have any complaints about it. My girlfriend bought me a PS3 for Christmas and i must say i am very dissapointed, the graphics are nowhere near as good as the 360. This whole time i have been hearing about how good the ps3 hardware was, and i really don't see it. the only thing i like about it is the blu-ray, that pretty much it, im also waiting for gt5 the game, not the prologue. so i recommend the 360

[MinisterofDOOM]

I love it when people say things like "ps3's graphics are crappy."

That's a PURELY game-by-game basis thing. PS3 vs 360 graphics quality will vary from game to game.

But more importantly, what does it matter? Even if the PS3 had crappier graphics quality across the board, there's a LOT more than just graphics quality to a console. Or at least, there should be for anyone seriously deciding between the two.

[Axel Grungy]

heres my outlook on the systems. Graphically they are the same to me.

XBOXpros-Better online service-more games-more of my friends use xboxCONS-console failure rate-PAYING for xbox live-more screaming 12 year olds-no blu-ray-The console is REALLY LOUD!!

PS3Cons-online service isnt as good, but hell its FREE-not as many of my friends have ps3-doesnt have as many games, but all the good ones make it to ps3, so no biggie-Its black and it attracts dust really bad HAHA-sometimes release dates are held back compared to xbox

Pros-muuuuch lower failure rate, no RROD-IS SILENT ahhh very nice-Free online-blu-ray, and yes i use it alot. even for regular movies-more mature people seem to have them. IE not as many screaming 12 year olds-Just feels more streamlined and better made to me, hardware and software.

When it comes down to it, i prefer the ps3 more. I do have both systems and dont play my xbox anymore. And i dont have to worry about the RROD

[hatchback240]

^QFT, axel said it best.

[C-Kwik]

If one is to pick up a new 360 now, they should look for the Jasper models. It appears they are most prevalant in the Arcade models, they are now using 65nm dies for the GPU, CPU and EDRAM now. The big deal here is that experts are suggesting that this could be the solution for any widespread RRoD failures. I'll post a more technical link which will explain the speculation, but regardless, there should be less heat coming off the smaller die, which should help. The article has several tips for identifying the Jasper model without opening the box...

http://www.anandtech.com/showdoc.aspx?i=3472

BTW, this article is pretty general about the issue and just touches on some of the key points. They do link to another article that has some pretty good detail about the solderball issues (which is also somewhat diluted as its not intended for an audience of engineers; but has a much greater depth of explanation) which you can read if you are truly interested. But you'll get the jist of what they think in the article above.

[MinisterofDOOM]

I almost went out and bought a PS3 yesterday, but then I realized I don't really want one. Not because I dislike the console per se, but because there just aren't enough PS3 exclusives to make it worth needing a PS3 in addition to my 360. I wouldn't mind having both consoles, especially with the PS3's bluray, but the blasted things are just too pricey to own two. I've been neglecting my 360 as it is lately since I have a half-decent video card in my PC now.

Then I almost bought a PSP3000 until I remembered that I never use my PSP1000 as it is except to occasionally play Locoroco.

[Red Devil]

Plus you'll be waiting till 2012 to play the full GT5.

[Initial_R90]

http://www.gamespot.com/news/6202377.html

anyone take this into effect?

[OldmanPurdy]

"Microsoft was aware that reorienting the console while a game disc was spinning could result in permanent damage."

Moving any optical drive while it is spinning has the potential to gouge and scratch discs, i'm sure I can look through the manual of any vertical mount game console and they will all say not to move the system while the disc is spinning.

[MinisterofDOOM]

"Microsoft was aware that reorienting the console while a game disc was spinning could result in permanent damage."

No S%^T!!!!! It's called basic physics kiddies. Being too stupid to understand the most basic laws of reality does not make MS responsible for your discs being scratched!

And yeah, I'd be really surprised if the Xbox manual doesn't include a warning not to move the system with a disc in use (or even just sitting idle in the drive).

[fiznowler]

I had a xbox 360 and sold it to buy my ps3. I would have to say I like the ps3 much better. Graphics wise on most games seem to be similar. I watch alot of movies so the blueray is a huge seller to me. I also like that the live is free but as stated before xbox live is better than PSN quality wise so far. That and my xbox had a dvdrom drive failure. They make it a pain in the *** to fix them if they are out of warranty. It just seems that it isn't if your 360 will mess up but when. I know this isn't 100% but I know more people that have had failures than ones that haven't. I haven't had to screw with the ps3 and i don't expect to have to. It just seems to be built much better all around. And you can play a game or watch a movie with the volume down and still hear it because the PS3 isn't rediculous loud!

We just need to get some decent mods for the ps3 now!

[Loki]

Well i have had a 360 for almost a year now and i don't have any complaints about it. My girlfriend bought me a PS3 for Christmas and i must say i am very dissapointed, the graphics are nowhere near as good as the 360. This whole time i have been hearing about how good the ps3 hardware was, and i really don't see it. the only thing i like about it is the blu-ray, that pretty much it, im also waiting for gt5 the game, not the prologue. so i recommend the 360

You playing on a 42" HDTV or a 27" CRT?

[bmike818]

So which system did you decide on?

[RCA]

http://www.gamespot.com/news/6202377.html

anyone take this into effect?

Oh fantastic! This is probably why the Xbox' sales are so good compared to the PS3 - it's the same customers having to buy new consoles over and over again!

LMAO

[lrb_2000]

Whichever is better for you.

If you just want to play some games, by yourself and whatever, get a 360.. or if all your friends use xbox live, get a 360..

If you want to have a blueray player, and such, get a ps3.. but that's all about it's good for right now, unless your friends all have one. lol..

Personally, I would choose the PC over all of them. Better graphics, better controls, more multiplayer, and you don't have to pay for it.. but still, consoles are fun.

[BusyBadger]

I've said it before and I'll say it again: Titles sell consoles.

The PS3's BluRay is fine and all but if I want to watch a BRD I'll by the appropriate player. What it comes down to is what titles are available for the consoles. All the top tier titles will be mulit-platform; GTA, Fallout3, COD series - so what it comes down to is what console exclusives are there.

[Axel Grungy]

I've said it before and I'll say it again: Titles sell consoles.

Pretty soon there wont be exclusive console titles. Tons more money can be made by making it for multiple platforms. Im pretty sure even the new Final Fantasy will be released on xbox, pretty soon im sure MGS will be as well.

[BusyBadger]

Pretty soon there wont be exclusive console titles. Tons more money can be made by making it for multiple platforms. Im pretty sure even the new Final Fantasy will be released on xbox, pretty soon im sure MGS will be as well.

If it were to come to that it would be much better news for Sony that for MSFT. There are so few PS3 exclusive titles that really look worth playing that I can't imagine picking up one just to play the limited offerings. Little Big Planet, Resistance, MGS (from what I understand even a lot of the diehard fans were a bit put off by the last convoluted cutscene filled offering, what did it have 20 minutes of gameplay?)? The only exclusive PS3 title that I considered picking up the console for was Assassin's Creed, fortunately it wasn't an exclusive. It certainly helped keep some clutter away from my entertainment centre. I won't even mention Gran Turismo since it seems to be stuck in development/game release hell. Is there even a date on it? I suppose there's the "demo" that you have to pay for (and yet they make their online gaming service free - they've got it the wrong way around). I keep hearing about how the full version will destroy Forza2 when its released but Forza3 (and maybe Forza4) will have been out before GT ever sees the light of day.

Think back to the Halo3 release near the holiday season a few years back? Remember how Sony was fine with that since they would be able to push sales of the PS3 version of GTA, then Rockstar delayed the game and it wasn't able to compete at the register Not only did Sony not even have an exclusive to stack up against the Halo juggernaut, they couldn't even throw a multi-platform title out there either. I could almost hear Ken Kutaragi crying from the other side of the Pacific. The most recent numbers I could find for total console sales are here.

Square Enix, among other developers, has made it clear that developing for the PS3 was a big PITA compared to the 360. Why develop for the easier platform and port it over (I also imagine a 360 to PC port is far easier than a 360 to PS3 port) to the harder to develop platform, IF there is enough demand for it. Final Fantasy XIII will see release on both platforms in the US and is a PS3 only release in Japan.

Side note: I heard that there are new versions of Thief and Deus Ex due out next year but I haven't seen anything about either anywhere. Since the Splinter Cell is no longer about stealth and more like Assassin's Creed meets Jason Bourne I am certainly looking forward to the original (and my favourite) stealth title to get a new game. I saw a snippet (years ago) on G4 that Riddick was also getting a new makeover but haven't heard a thing since. Anybody got anything on these?

[MinisterofDOOM]

I saw a snippet (years ago) on G4 that Riddick was also getting a new makeover but haven't heard a thing since. Anybody got anything on these?

The new Riddick is called "Assult on Dark Athena." Butcher Bay has actually been made-over once already (the enhanced PC version that had some significant changes), but this will be a "real" remake with new tech. It'll still tell the Butcher Bay story, but will have a lot of new content as well, involving Riddick sneaking onto a merc ship called "Dark Athena." I'm looking forward to it as a fan of the movies and the first two iterations of the game.

[BusyBadger]

I was actually referring to an updated Butchers Bay that was 360 compatible. The original Xbox version won't work on the 360. It was supposed to have improved graphics and even Vin was to have done some new VO work on it.

I'm guessing that the enhanced PC version you mentioned is what I was thinking of, though I was certain it was coming out for the 360. The omission of a backwards compatibility patch for Riddick and Deus Ex 2 are inexcusable.

Good to hear a new (full!) version of Riddick is in the works though. Now if could only find out about Thief.

Sorry for the threadjack.

[EpicNightMayor]

I have an Xbox 360, I don't have a PS3 or feel the need to get one. Maybe if it was $250 I would pick one up, but for $399 even with Blue Ray...Hecks No!!!

There are more games on the 360 and cheaper too. PS3 fans would this disagree, but everyone is entitled to their own opinions. My vote for you is 360 FTW!!!

But what about the amount of time that you guys have to send your xbox back to the factory every other month, then get it back, and have to send it back the next day. PS3 FTW all the way, free online play, xbox = expensive online play. I'll admit, xbox does have some good games but 2009 or 2010 will be the year for game for PS3. Definitely get a PS3

[BusyBadger]

I've got my 360 shortly after the release date and have had to send it back ONCE. Total time out of my house was maybe a week. The RRoD is not as all pervasive in the 360 consoles as the PS3 fans would like to think. I've yet to hear of any console failures from any of the new Jasper style 360's.

$50 a year is "expensive online play"? Sorry to hear about your financial problems.

[MinisterofDOOM]

I was actually referring to an updated Butchers Bay that was 360 compatible. The original Xbox version won't work on the 360. It was supposed to have improved graphics and even Vin was to have done some new VO work on it.

Dark Athena is that game. It is a remake of Butcher Bay plus new content.

$50 a year is "expensive online play"? Sorry to hear about your financial problems.

"Expensive" is a judgement of value, not available funds. XBL simply should not cost what it does.

The Playstation Network blows, however. Free is awesome, but the implementation is abysmal.

[BusyBadger]

I did some checking on Dark Athena after you mentioned it and found out the same thing. Suddenly April seems like it will take a while to arrive.

I'm well aware of the difference between value and price, in any case...

The value assessment on XBL service though - 4 bucks and change a month is perfectly reasonable if you play much at all. The replayability it adds to one $60 title alone should make its value obvious. Multiply this by two or three games and its even better. The alternative being packing up your rig and driving to someone's house for a LAN party seems pretty expensive in comparison (though its still a blast if its not your only gaming option).

I do think that MSFT should make different versions of the XBL service though. If you don't game online but want to download demos or backwards compatibility patches it should be less, or for someone that doesn't download demos, patches or added game materials but does want online play.

I've heard far more complaints than praise regarding Sony's XBL equivalent, the Playstation Network. But it seems like its easier for Sony to have the lesser service based on the console's offered titles. FPS titles are the backbone of XBL (well, before Guitar Hero and Rockband anyway), the PS3 seems to have such a larger RP base that the online play doesn't seem to be such a necessity. If Gran Turismo ever sees the light of day though, PSN better be up to the task.

I didn't mention any movie or tv downloads for either PSN or XBL since the discussion seemed to be aimed more at gaming.