PS3 Vs. XBOX 360

[marlin29311]

oh?and why is this...just out of curiousity:)

Because everyone that stated PS3 was better than 360 because of the bluray player can't say it anymore. People were justifying buying a $400 system for the bluray only...and it made sense for a while, considering that a bluray player cost $200-300....at $75, you can buy a 360 for $200, the bluray for $75, and now you've only spent $275 and have both components...

[ABM~Tuning]

hmm yeah that does make more sence.i dont think i would buy a ps3 just for the bluray its a consol youd be wasting your money if you only wanted it for bluray...

[dee_tymz_sl]

After seeing a $75 BluRay player at the Sony outlet this weekend, I've concluded that the Bluray argument on why PS3 is greater than 360 is no longer valid.

hmm yeah that does make more sence.i dont think i would buy a ps3 just for the bluray its a consol youd be wasting your money if you only wanted it for bluray...

Because everyone that stated PS3 was better than 360 because of the bluray player can't say it anymore. People were justifying buying a $400 system for the bluray only...and it made sense for a while, considering that a bluray player cost $200-300....at $75, you can buy a 360 for $200, the bluray for $75, and now you've only spent $275 and have both components...

hmm yeah that does make more sence.i dont think i would buy a ps3 just for the bluray its a consol youd be wasting your money if you only wanted it for bluray...

True quite valid points all around but how do you justify spending $50/m for playing games online? They may have more games but more doesn't always mean they are better games. However, in the end there isn't any justification for spending more than you have to just to play your games among your peers after you've already gone out to the stores and spend $60 per games.

[MinisterofDOOM]

True quite valid points all around but how do you justify spending $50/m for playing games online? They may have more games but more doesn't always mean they are better games. However, in the end there isn't any justification for spending more than you have to just to play your games among your peers after you've already gone out to the stores and spend $60 per games.

XBL is NOT $50/month. It's $50 for THIRTEEN months.

That said, I agree it's ridiculous to pay more on top of the purchase price just to get "out-of-box" functionality, especially since $60 for a console game is already out of hand.

[marlin29311]

XBL is NOT $50/month. It's $50 for THIRTEEN months.

That said, I agree it's ridiculous to pay more on top of the purchase price just to get "out-of-box" functionality, especially since $60 for a console game is already out of hand.

World of Warcraft. Nuff said.

And yea - good correction - it's $50 for over a year, not a month. If it was a month, no one would pay it.

[MinisterofDOOM]

World of Warcraft. Nuff said.

No. No. No.I have pointed out a million times the countless ways in which that comparison is NOT valid. They are NOTHING alike. XBL does not produce content. XBL does not host games. It is a matchmaking service and online store...you're paying for access to a store where you BUY things for crying out loud. WoW provides hosting, bandwidth and, most importantly, CONTENT for the $15/month. XBL does not do any of those things. WoW patches contain large amounts of new content. That has to have a price somewhere. New content for XBL games costs money ON TOP OF the XBL fees. And you're paying MS for XBL, not the game developers themselves.

The XBL/WoW comparison is stupid. The only similarity is that they're both a fee related to video games. Beyond that, they are entirely unalike.

[marlin29311]

The XBL/WoW comparison is stupid. The only similarity is that they're both a fee related to video games. Beyond that, they are entirely unalike.

Thats all I was aiming at. You pay $50+ for a game, then to have to pay a a monthly fee to play it.

[dee_tymz_sl]

Thats all I was aiming at. You pay $50+ for a game, then to have to pay a a monthly fee to play it.

Thank you, well said.

No. No. No.I have pointed out a million times the countless ways in which that comparison is NOT valid. They are NOTHING alike. XBL does not produce content. XBL does not host games. It is a matchmaking service and online store...you're paying for access to a store where you BUY things for crying out loud. WoW provides hosting, bandwidth and, most importantly, CONTENT for the $15/month. XBL does not do any of those things. WoW patches contain large amounts of new content. That has to have a price somewhere. New content for XBL games costs money ON TOP OF the XBL fees. And you're paying MS for XBL, not the game developers themselves.

The XBL/WoW comparison is stupid. The only similarity is that they're both a fee related to video games. Beyond that, they are entirely unalike.

No explanation as to why you have to pay extra, whether it be $15/m or $50 the fact is after spending an average of $60 per game, you have to pay additional fees just to enjoy these games and that's all that I was getting at.

[bmike818]

Thats all I was aiming at. You pay $50+ for a game, then to have to pay a a monthly fee to play it.

No explanation as to why you have to pay extra, whether it be $15/m or $50 the fact is after spending an average of $60 per game, you have to pay additional fees just to enjoy these games and that's all that I was getting at.

You can play the games without paying the Live fees, you just don't get to play online. get it straight people. Do you want a complete online experience or whatever you can get for free?

I rather pay to get better service.

I pay $3 a month for my Live. i bought a 13 month card for $34.00 plus tax.

For $3 a month I get these:Gold MembershipXbox LIVE Gold is a premium membership that lets you play games with friends online. Gold membership includes all the features of Silver (below) plus additional benefits and features.

Multiplayer games: Invite your friends into a multiplayer match and compete against each other or play co-op through expansive adventures.Marketplace: Gold members get early and exclusive access to select game add-ons, demos, trailers, videos, and more.TrueSkill matchmaking: For every ranked game you play, TrueSkill finds the best match for your skill level.Parties: Invite a group of friends into an Xbox LIVE Party, then you can all join games and play and chat together.Gamer feedback: Use the feedback system to select players you want to play with (or avoid) the next time you're online.Watch Netflix movies: Xbox LIVE Gold members who also belong to Netflix can watch Netflix’s extensive library of streaming movies and TV shows right on their console at no additional charge.

plusSilver MembershipXbox LIVE Silver is a free service that allows any Xbox 360 user with a broadband connection to get online and interact with the Xbox LIVE community.



Gamer profile: Showcase your online reputation and achievements for your friends to see.Avatar: Share the customized Avatar that represents your online identity.Friends list: Add other Xbox LIVE users to your friends list and chat using the headset or send text messages.Marketplace: Download free content from Marketplace such as demos, trailers, music videos, dashboard themes, and lots more.Microsoft Points: Redeem Microsoft Points (available at retail stores or through Xbox LIVE) for extra game content, Arcade games, movies and TV shows, independent videos, and more. Gold Weekends: Look for special offers from Xbox LIVE that let you experience the excitement of multiplayer gaming free.

it's well worth it IMO.

[MinisterofDOOM]

You can play the games without paying the Live fees, you just don't get to play online. get it straight people. Do you want a complete online experience or whatever you can get for free?

But, see, that's where I take issue. You CAN get "a complete online experience" for free. You just DON'T. My comparison to PC gaming's decades-old online capabilities has become even more useful thanks to MS themselves and GFWL. MS added GFWL "support" (in reality it's a curse and a crutch) to select PC games in hopes of spreading the reach of XBL because they figured more people would want access. But that's where it gets silly: GFWL is FREE while XBL costs $50 a year. But MS can't charge for it on the PC because there are countless alternatives to every facet of it. They also can't charge for it because it's a steaming pile of elephant dung, but that's beside the point. On the PC there have been "complete online experience" solutions for years. Look at Xfire and Steam. Both are free. Both offer most of XBL's services, less the gamerscore (which is pointless anyway). Steam even has a store. Steam does stats-tracking and scorekeeping. It's free. XBL is not. And the funny thing is that even though Valve profides Steam for free, it has still made them rich beyond their dreams. Microsoft doesn't need to charge for XBL, they're just greedy bastards.

[marlin29311]

Microsoft doesn't need to charge for XBL, they're just greedy bastards.

Expense mitigation. Where do you think the money for console warranty repair comes from?

[MinisterofDOOM]

Expense mitigation. Where do you think the money for console warranty repair comes from?

It couldn't be from the $10-$20 premium I pay for console games over PC version that goes straight into MS' pocket, could it? Or how about the money MS makes from each XBL software sale? Or on-demand media rental? Or the money they make selling peripherals and accessories for the console?

MS is NOT short on income to their gaming division. XBL is a cash-cow that's being milked at the consumer's expense. MS has plenty of other sources for funding their reliability issues.

[bmike818]

nothing greases the wheel of innovation better than cash money. As long as the service keeps running smooth, I will be a sucker and pay my monthly dues.

..the service did just go down the other day for an hour or two. I felt lost.

[dee_tymz_sl]

nothing greases the wheel of innovation better than cash money. As long as the service keeps running smooth, I will be a sucker and pay my monthly dues.

..the service did just go down the other day for an hour or two. I felt lost.

LOL, You should have filed a complaint and ask for a refund...

But, see, that's where I take issue. You CAN get "a complete online experience" for free. You just DON'T. My comparison to PC gaming's decades-old online capabilities has become even more useful thanks to MS themselves and GFWL. MS added GFWL "support" (in reality it's a curse and a crutch) to select PC games in hopes of spreading the reach of XBL because they figured more people would want access. But that's where it gets silly: GFWL is FREE while XBL costs $50 a year. But MS can't charge for it on the PC because there are countless alternatives to every facet of it. They also can't charge for it because it's a steaming pile of elephant dung, but that's beside the point. On the PC there have been "complete online experience" solutions for years. Look at Xfire and Steam. Both are free. Both offer most of XBL's services, less the gamerscore (which is pointless anyway). Steam even has a store. Steam does stats-tracking and scorekeeping. It's free. XBL is not. And the funny thing is that even though Valve profides Steam for free, it has still made them rich beyond their dreams. Microsoft doesn't need to charge for XBL, they're just greedy bastards.

Hey there, MisterofDoom, you're hitting all the points I was getting at or wanted to make my friend and your response is pretty similar to the one I was going to give but seeing you already did I'll just say this. For those people who think paying to pay for a "full online experience" is worth it keep paying because you and I both know that you are being ripped off for a service that doesn't need to be charged for. Keep paying, I'm sure they appreciate all the extra funds you're contributing to them each month...

I guess when people know they are being ripped off they'll find an excuse to downplay the situation.
Modified by dee_tymz_sl at 3:35 AM 8/16/2009

[bmike818]

Water is free, but sometimes you pay for it out of convenience. To each their own.

.....PS3 for $299........hmmmmmmmmmmmm? w/ free online play......still a no for now. Price is very tempting....I do have a Blue Ray copy of Dark Knight already I just need a player.

As it stands I have too many games for my 360 already, I have about 40 with about 5 games that I barely started. So I guess I will be sticking with my 360.

[MinisterofDOOM]

Water is free, but sometimes you pay for it out of convenience. To each their own.

That's exactly the point I addressed. It should not be NECESSARY to pay for convenience. It SHOULD be free. It COULD be free.

[bmike818]

I wish it was free.

XBox 360 FTW!!!!!! <-for you PS3 heads

[eds13]

I wish it was free.

XBox 360 FTW!!!!!! <-for you PS3 heads

yes

[initial_jc]

personally i have a xbox 360

but i would like a PS3 for the streaming from my HD

[RCA]

As it stands I have too many games for my 360 already, I have about 40 with about 5 games that I barely started. So I guess I will be sticking with my 360.

The only way to make that transition is to buy the next gen version of game you own.

EX:NCAA Football 2008 (Xbox) but get the 09 version for PS3 this particular example works well with sports games but outside of that IDK. You might need to buy PS3 exclusives or whatever. If you never take the first step, you will NEVER get the ball rolling and it would be pointless to own a PS3. unless of course Microsoft stops making games then it might make sense.

[bmike818]

ummmmm..........I like my Xbox360 thank you, plus the all the games I have I really like. I like not having to install games on my hard drive. GT5 and Metal Gear waere the only games I was really interested from Sony. After playing Forza 3, I could careless about GT5. GT5 is great, but where is it? Sony made people buy a $500-600 machine to play Gran Turismo. Alas the price has been cut and they only have an overpriced demo to show for. I am so happy I didn't buy a PS3 at launch.

at $299 I am still undecided if I want a PS3. I would probably buy another 360 before I buy a PS3. NOt because it's broken, I want to run mutltiple monitors when playing Forza

[RCA]

ummmmm..........I like my Xbox360 thank you, plus the all the games I have I really like. I like not having to install games on my hard drive. GT5 and Metal Gear waere the only games I was really interested from Sony. After playing Forza 3, I could careless about GT5. GT5 is great, but where is it? Sony made people buy a $500-600 machine to play Gran Turismo. Alas the price has been cut and they only have an overpriced demo to show for. I am so happy I didn't buy a PS3 at launch.

at $299 I am still undecided if I want a PS3. I would probably buy another 360 before I buy a PS3. NOt because it's broken, I want to run mutltiple monitors when playing Forza

- I have needed to "install" NCAA Football 09 and it took up 272MB, I wouldn't call that installing. Every other game just had data saved for updates which are basically like 12MB. Out side of NCAA and the first game I ever play on PS3 I haven't needed to install any thing. I doubt you need to install any games on PS3 any more. I actually prefer to install the games I play the most on my Xbox so I find that weird that you oppose it so much. But that doesn't matter because if Xbox made it mandatory to install some games you wouldn't complain about it, in fact you would marvel in the great load times.

[bmike818]

did you forget about Metal Gear with over 4gigs of mandatory install no thanks....no wonder Sony needs a bigger hard drive. At least the 360 uses the hard drive for mostly content. The 360 does give you the option to install games to make them run faster, but they are optional.

Sony does do everything....except the most important part.......GAMES!- show me the games!

[Poyzinous]

Saturday I will be purchasing either a 360 or a PS3. I have not yet made up my mind. Why I want the PS3: bluray, no RROD, free online mode and wireless. Why I want the 360: Live is, better? More games, Netflix. But I dont like the idea of paying for a service that should be free, and paying for a bunch of extras. But if someone doesn't convince me one is better, I'll just buy a Wii. And a pair of HEELS to go with my mini skirt.

[bmike818]

Xbox is only $50 a year, that's only $4.16 per month. Playstation 3 is free. I guess the clear winner is the PS3 here. The PS3 has Blue ray so you can watch HD movies, the XBOx360 only has HD movie downloads. I guess the winner is PS3 again. The playstation also does not experience RROD. I guess it's the PS3.

....but if you just want to play games. errr Great games i would suggest the 360. If you do decide to get a 360, they have some 60gig and 120gig models with free games you just have to look for them. I think the free games are Fable 2 and Halo 3.

p.s. I prefer the 360 over the PS3 mainly because of the games and online support.

[MinisterofDOOM]

But if someone doesn't convince me one is better, I'll just buy a Wii.

The Wii is an awesome console with some great games, but it won't play movies (not even DVDs) and the online support as far as actual games are concerned is crap.

I own a Wii and a 360.

[RCA]

Saturday I will be purchasing either a 360 or a PS3.

Basically it comes down to what bmike said. Also another key especially if you are an online gamer, which friends play what. For me I bought a 360 just so I can play the SAME exact game with friends. My PS3 buddies do not play COD4 like my Xbox friends so I went out and bought one.

But if your willing to splurge you might as well just pick up a PS360

[MinisterofDOOM]

If you buy a PS3, I'd make sure to pick up a slim. The big PS3s still left on shelves no longer have backward compatibility, so there's no reason to get them over a slim. But the slim is more efficient and cooler running, and supposed to be quieter when playing bluray movies, so it's worth getting over the fat.

[Poyzinous]

Okay well I got the 360. I picked it over the PS3 because my wife preferred the 360 for some reason. I wanted the ps3 for blu ray. But once they hit $150 or so next year I'll get a bluray player.

[bmike818]

your wife has good taste. What games did you get for your 360?