OMG.....VERSA HEADER

[Knightro2]

For the $130 install and whatever you paid for the header in the first place....I don't really hear a significant difference.

[superskunk]

you dont hear, but you feel....

[Knightro2]

Well I'm sure...but why make a whole video and sound clips with no difference. lol

[They Call Me Whatshisname]

LOL Mightyversa is still reading the forums I see?

[Knightro2]

MightyVersa? Where did he come in on this?

[They Call Me Whatshisname]

On the youtube video. He commented on it 5 hours ago.

[Knightro2]

Ahh, I didn't read the comments before.

[reyes1212]

Geeze...so for a noob that doesn't now how to explain himself, what needs to be asked when going to a shop that is willing to do this?

[ADOversa]

That youtube vid sounds pretty mean

[#1Tango]

thanks guys. for a noob going to a shop, just ask if they can give you a quote for a header install, they will want to see the header. after that they will tell you if they will do it or not and they will give you a price quote. tell them to put the new header on and cut the flange from the obx downpipe and weld it to the pre-cat to keep it carb (if you want to do a whole cat delete then go for it) and just sit back and watch them go at your car for 3 hours . there is a slight difference in the exhausts tone, its a little deeper, i imagine if you put the whole downpipe on it would be more of an audible difference. maybe i can only hear it because im so used to my car. but there is a +3db gain in the exhausts idle, i noticed it in my editing software with the left and right audio levels. and the exhaust pulses hit a little bit harder when you put your hand in front of the muffler. im really happy with this, this i would have to say is in my top favorite mods for my versa yet.

[#1Tango]

Well I'm sure...but why make a whole video and sound clips with no difference. lol

just for people who want to hear if there is a difference or not. i mean if i didn't post a vid wouldn't you want to know what it sounds like? let alone compared to the oem one? the tone is slightly deeper btw

[Skim302]

Well just to let everyone know, I will be putting the down pipe on too (since no one else has yet). I live in delaware so its not too strict and I'm not going to get my car inspected for another 4 years so why not. So I'll tell you how it sounds.

[ADOversa]

Is there a noticeable gain in power?

[superskunk]

Well just to let everyone know, I will be putting the down pipe on too (since no one else has yet). I live in delaware so its not too strict and I'm not going to get my car inspected for another 4 years so why not. So I'll tell you how it sounds.

JUS14 did this already and his CEL is on... he said he would try and resolve this issue with the anti-foulers

Is there a noticeable gain in power?

compared to stock? hell yeah... for better results i would pair it with Cold Air Intake and some sort of exhaust setup...

Geeze...so for a noob that doesn't now how to explain himself, what needs to be asked when going to a shop that is willing to do this?

just tell them to call me! lol.... its pretty simple just swap flanges cuz once you got the header on you will notice that the 2 different flanges dont match up... thats where the cutting and swapping comes in...

For the $130 install and whatever you paid for the header in the first place....I don't really hear a significant difference.

the whole setup installed should cost in or around $367 depending on the shop who does it for you...

[#1Tango]

i think the anti foulers will work, but the O2 sensor is on top of the pipe, so it might be a tight fit. i think it will work and if it doesn't i was thinking that you could just cut through the heatshield a little bit. if the cops didn't give me so much trouble i would have gone this route...

[Knightro2]

but there is a +3db gain in the exhausts idle, i noticed it in my editing software with the left and right audio levels.

Just for accuracy, I would re-record your new exhaust but make sure the camera is the same distance away like your first video. To me it seems your camera is closer in the OBX vid than it is in the OEM vid which might account for the +3db gain. Just a thought...it's my analytical part of my mind churning for accuracy...it's what I do at work.

[#1Tango]

they were actually the same distance, atleast i tried just by sight. it doesn't look like it because i enlarged the footage on the obx header so the car filled the screen. ill make another vid when i have the chance though

[Red Devil]

IMO anything under 2.0 liters doesn't really sound that spectacular. Then again nothing, except for V-8's and some others, sound bad when any mods to the exhaust are done.

[Jus14]

For those of you wondering i have posted a video already in the garage and driving by on down in the forums,really didnt get any replies on it though i think it sounds like no other 1.8 ,but i indeed have used the downpipe and will do the write up on how to build the CEL blocker as i call it it worked nicely ,but i am goin to try to post a step by step and part numbers and for those of you wondering i think a very noticeable difference in torque and all the way through the rpms makes the car more fun to drive......

[Jemdawg]

I want dyno results, before and after, before I can be convinced that this isn't a total waste of time and effort. I have a very strong feeling that this, even with a CAI and an exhaust, which is presumably an axle-back unless it's custom built, will show no significant improvements. If I remember correctly, stock horsepower to the wheels is just above 100 and torque is about the same, so what are the expected gains? Maybe 2-3 hp, 2-3 ft-lbs of torque? I'm going to remain a non believer until someone can prove to me that this header actually accomplishes something. Headers on cars that have potential, with engines that take well to upgrades, can give at least 10-15 hp, even more if you're dealing with, say, an old '89 Mustang GT.

[#1Tango]

im gonna try to get the car dyno'd. i have my cars dyno numbers with the intake and custom exhaust, so next time i go it will now be with the header installed. not sure when ill go, but i need to wait for a couple more paychecks. the header will see a dyno though

[WORKS89]

If I remember correctly, stock horsepower to the wheels is just above 100 and torque is about the same, so what are the expected gains? Maybe 2-3 hp, 2-3 ft-lbs of torque? Headers on cars that have potential, with engines that take well to upgrades, can give at least 10-15 hp, even more if you're dealing with, say, an old '89 Mustang GT.

Just wanted to make sure I understand your statement. So I get that the Versa makes like 105WHP stock, but when you started talking about gain did you switched from WHP to HP, or are you still talking about WHP just forgot to put the "W" in. Just wanted to clearify because on a low HP, car 2-3"WHP" can be a pretty decent increase.

[Skim302]

For those of you wondering i have posted a video already in the garage and driving by on down in the forums,really didnt get any replies on it though i think it sounds like no other 1.8 ,but i indeed have used the downpipe and will do the write up on how to build the CEL blocker as i call it it worked nicely ,but i am goin to try to post a step by step and part numbers and for those of you wondering i think a very noticeable difference in torque and all the way through the rpms makes the car more fun to drive......

Yeah make sure you get a write up of the anit fouler cause I'm going to need it.

[#1Tango]

was there enough room for the anti-foulers due to the heatshield? did you use 1 or 2 to space out the o2 sensor?

[viet510racer]

was kinda curious how this header will perform when smog comes? think it will pass in cali??

[superskunk]

im really hoping so... or else i will have to resort to other means of passing... i mean it should... no CEL and the stock cats are in place... still waiting till i have to smog...

[Jus14]

Well im back to inform the one fouler after a few days threw a CEL so i have drilled the first out and hoping for enough room for the second one and it for sure should fit so i will post a write up and how to soon as i get a chance probably next weekend working 12 hrs everyday......

[#1Tango]

let us know how it turns out. i think im gonna put the whole straight pipe on and do the cat delete. only because i think there is too much stress on the flanges where i welded the header to the stock cats because i was driving normally and then i heard a huge plunk and then it felt like a bolt popped off the flange and i was right because then i hit the gas and i just heard this huge WHAAAAAAAAA WAAHHHHHHHH!!!!! i was so embarassed to drive it around town. it sounded really cool when it was idleing but as soon as i hit the gas, it sounded like a honda fresh out of a junk yard. i went to the muffler shop and the guy told me the bolts snapped on the stress and the gasket was gone. so they put a new gasket in and sealed it. i went driving and it sounded solid and better than the 1st time it was installed. then about 10 minutes later i hear a loud buzzing sound from the header and then i popped the hood and had my gf rev the car and sure enough i smell exhaust gasses and i saw some white stuff spitting out between the 2 flanges. so i think there is too much stress on the header to the cats so i might put the straight pipe on with the flex pipe.

jus14, do you hear a slight buzzing sound when you hit the gas pedal hard? how about you theo? a slight buzz? this is annoying. i think its the flanges and the gasket not seating properly. opinions?

[Skim302]

I hear a buzzing whenever I get on it. But it usually gets drownd out by the sound of the exhaust.

[Red Devil]

I hear a buzzing whenever I get on it. But it usually gets drownd out by the sound of the exhaust.

If it looks like this then it's normal, especially the "exhaust" sound....

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wi...1.jpg

Sorry, had to do it.