Nico i need ur help

[naladude911]

Alright so I got pulled over today for tints. I have stock tints on the rear of my car and my front windows are tinted at 35% which appear lighter than the rear tints.

Anyways. I made a left and this charger cop was sitting by the fire department talking to one of my volunteer friends and he pulls me over. I later find out from the friend that the officer says "gotta go pull over this kid for tints". I get pulled over and the officer tells me that my tints are illegal. I have new york state documentation saying that both front and rear tints must let 70% or LESS light in. If my front tints are lighter than my rear tints then they must be legal. I also show him my receipt that I got my fronts tinted at 35%. The officer is like IDC basically and gives me a ticket. My town has no crime and earns their money via traffic violations. As soon as I got my ticket I went right to the police station and told them what happened and if I could have another officer look at the tints. They said no, we only have ONE tint meter for the ENTIRE department (bull s***), and you will have to come to court.

Basically I'm asking

What is the OEM tint age of tints

[Encryptshun]

I have new york state documentation saying that both front and rear tints must let 70% or LESS light in.

More likely it's 70% or MORE light in. Which then means that your 35% tint only lets in 65% light, which makes it illegal.

Think it through. Why would NY require tint that limits light to 70% or less? By that logic, letting 0% light in would be perfectly okay, as 0% is certainly less light than 70% but would make untinted windows illegal (since no tint would let in 100% light). Why don't you post up exactly what it is that you found and where you found it.

[Red coupe]

Cops are there to enforce what THEY think is the law.

The courts are there to correct their mistakes.
Why are you trying to deal with the cops?

Go to court with proof that your tint is less the the legal limit. OEM tint levels or even what the cops think is irrelevant.... Find out what is required and what you have, and show proof there is no conflict between the two.

[naladude911]

Copied off the nysDMV........


(1) the front windshield of which is composed of, covered by or
treated with any material which has a light transmittance of less than
seventy percent unless such materials are limited to the uppermost six
inches of the windshield; or
(2) the sidewings or side windows of which on either side forward of
or adjacent to the operator's seat are composed of, covered by or
treated with any material which has a light transmittance of less than
seventy percent; or
(3) if it is classified as a station wagon, sedan, hardtop, coupe,
hatchback or convertible and any rear side window has a light
transmittance of less than seventy percent; or
(4) the rear window of which is composed of, covered by or treated
with any material which has a light transmittance of less than seventy
percent. A rear window may have a light transmittance of less than
seventy percent if the vehicle is equipped with side mirrors on both
sides of the vehicle so adjusted that the driver thereof shall have a
clear and full view of the road and condition of traffic behind such
vehicle.

Basically if my rears are 30%, that means only 70% of light is unblocked correct?

lets look at it this way
limo tint is 5%. That means 95% of light is blocked
Dark tint is 20%. That means 80% of light is blocked
OEM tint is ~30 that means 70% of light is blocked
my front tints are 35% that means only 65% of light is blocked.
If I have 100% that means 0% of light is blocked

[Dattebayo]

You're such a dingus lol

[Dire91]

I was trying to explain this to him over AIM, I don't understand how it is so hard to grasp such a simple concept. New York law states that the windshield cannot have tint on it, the front and back windows must let in 70% of light and the rear window can have whatever percentage tint. You have 35% and 30% tint on your car, that means only 35% and 30% of light is let into your car that is far below the 70% set limit. So yes they are illegal and you got a ticket for a reason. /end rant
http://www.tintcenter.com/laws/NY/

[AppleBonker]

You lose nala. That's saying you can't have anything less than 70% on the sides. You have 35%. 35 is less than 70, therefore illegal. Pay the fine and move on. Don't even bother taking it to court. If you scrape the tint off, you can probably go to court and get the ticket thrown out. How much is the fine anyway?

[Bubba1]

I was trying to explain this to him over AIM, I don't understand how it is so hard to grasp such a simple concept. New York law states that the windshield cannot have tint on it, the front and back windows must let in 70% of light and the rear window can have whatever percentage tint. You have 35% and 30% tint on your car, that means only 35% and 30% of light is let into your car that is far below the 70% set limit. So yes they are illegal and you got a ticket for a reason. /end rant
http://www.tintcenter.com/laws/NY/

Nala, "it's deja vu all over again". The cops have told you its illegal. Dire even explained it to you. Our recommendation is for you to grow up, pay the ticket and remove that stupid tint (which does not make your mom's suv look cool).

I assume you're going to ignore our advice anyway, and you will get more tint tickets in the coming weeks until it sinks into that thick skull of yours that it is illegal. so to sum up...

YOU FAIL

[AppleBonker]

I got giddy when I saw that you posted in here Bubba. Is that odd?

[Urabus GodofTraction]

One, it's tint, not tints, you dumb, mouth-breathing tard.

Two...

My town has no crime and earns their money via traffic violations.

Rich people problem.

[IanS]

Windows are not tinted from the factory. At least not on any car I have ever seen. Most car companies apply a nearly clear UV blocking film, but not tint. It only blocks 5-7% light.

Window tinting is a dealer installed option. Just because the dealer had it done, does not make it legal.

Have someone run your windows with a light meter. If they pass, take that to court, if not, STFU and pay the ticket.

[Dano]

Windows are not tinted from the factory. At least not on any car I have ever seen. Most car companies apply a nearly clear UV blocking film, but not tint. It only blocks 5-7% light.

Window tinting is a dealer installed option. Just because the dealer had it done, does not make it legal.

Have someone run your windows with a light meter. If they pass, take that to court, if not, STFU and pay the ticket.

There is 'factory tinted glass' that have the tinting sandiwched in between two layers of glass, and some actually tint the glass itself before they form it into a sheet. It's more prevalent on trucks/vans/suvs than it is on cars. My dad's '08 pathfinder has it, my frontier has it, even our '94 Aerostar has it. 95% of the cars that have this tinted glass is only on the rear windows, drivers and passengers are usually untouched except for the UV coating. Only in the last 5-6 years have a handful of luxury automakers utilized driver/pass tinted glass, and even then it's only like 15%.

[audtatious]

I believe the rear glass used on sedans/coupes is factory tinted around 73%.

[Jesda]

I tape Mandy Moore posters to the inside of my windows. Blocks out 100% of the light. Gives me mad wood. Keeps thieves from seeing my stash of beef jerky.

[MinisterofDOOM]

If they're going to start citing for REAR tint, they had damn well better start citing all the jackasses who drive around all winter without clearing the snow and ice off their windows. And all the automohobos who cram the back windows of their cars to the roof with so much stuff it doubles the car's curb weight. Rear visibility is not legally required as long as you have sideview mirrors, as the hilariously worded legalese you quoted says.

Just wait until cars start coming with variable opacity electrochromic windows. What fun that'll be for tint citations.

Dark tint sucks. Factory polarized/UV-tinted glass accomplishes the desirable goals of semi-opaque tint without reducing visibility.

[naladude911]

What I dont get is every brand new SUV/Minivan/Pickup Truck ( except the s*** base models) has rear window tint that has been approved by DOT. If that tint is rated around ~30% (which blocks 70% light) but you are saying is blocking 30% of light and its not 70% then how come those vehicles pass inspection or arent getting pulled over for no reason? My front tints are LIGHTER than my rear tints. The higher the tint number is (5 is limo, 20 is dark, 30 is stock, 35 is light) the lighter the tint. Even in person if you look at the car my tints are lighter. I am not paying the $150 fine, or removing my $75 tints. Im going to court and wearing a suit

[numbnuts240]

in which case, you're going to look damned fine when you pay your, umm...fine. you aren't going to win. simple as that. your window tint is in violation of the ny state tint laws. accept it, pay the fine, move on.

"Section 375 (12-a) of the NYS Vehicle and Traffic Law does not allow a windshield or front side windows that are dark. The windshield and front side windows cannot block more than 30% of the light. Seventy percent or more of the light from the outside must pass through the window. This law also applies to the rear window unless the vehicle has outside rear-view mirrors on both sides. The mirrors must give the driver a full and clear view behind the vehicle."

copied from
http://nysdmv.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/nysd ... _topview=1

see the bold part? yeah, you lose. again. dumbass.

[Bubba1]

What I dont get is every brand new SUV/Minivan/Pickup Truck ( except the s*** base models) has rear window tint that has been approved by DOT. If that tint is rated around ~30% (which blocks 70% light) but you are saying is blocking 30% of light and its not 70% then how come those vehicles pass inspection or arent getting pulled over for no reason? My front tints are LIGHTER than my rear tints. The higher the tint number is (5 is limo, 20 is dark, 30 is stock, 35 is light) the lighter the tint. Even in person if you look at the car my tints are lighter. I am not paying the $150 fine, or removing my $75 tints. Im going to court and wearing a suit

Please re-read Dire's explanation. Keep in mind, you used the same flawed logic with your tail lens and failed spectacularly. It took 4 frigging tickets before it sunk into your skull it might make sense to remove them.

It is true most modern car windows are pre-tinted at the factory, and they are within legal limits. If you replace a windshield you'll learn that as you have to match the tint color. And many aftermarket tints you apply will immediately push you past the legal limit in states like NY and NJ. It doesn't take much.


If you go to court and lose, which is probable, you will not only pay the fine, but court costs too. You will then risk getting ticketed AGAIN until you pay to remove it. On second thought, go ahead and go to court. Mt. Kisco needs the money.

[krash]

What I dont get is every brand new SUV/Minivan/Pickup Truck ( except the s*** base models) has rear window tint that has been approved by DOT. If that tint is rated around ~30% (which blocks 70% light) but you are saying is blocking 30% of light and its not 70% then how come those vehicles pass inspection or arent getting pulled over for no reason? My front tints are LIGHTER than my rear tints. The higher the tint number is (5 is limo, 20 is dark, 30 is stock, 35 is light) the lighter the tint. Even in person if you look at the car my tints are lighter. I am not paying the $150 fine, or removing my $75 tints. Im going to court and wearing a suit

I think your problem is that you don't know what 5%, 20%, 30% and 35% mean. 35% VLT, means 35% visual light transmission. meaning that the tint will block 35% of the light coming into the car. If you have 35% tint on your front windows, then you are blocking 35% percent of the light thats coming in, which means you are only letting in 65% of the outside light. New York law states that you must have 70% light transmittance, or 70% of the light from outside the car must come inside the car. So you're wrong. Pay the fine, and stop doing useless things to the car.

From what I can remember (in MD at least) the tint law only applies to the driver, passenger, front window. When my sister got pulled over for tint, she just had to get the driver and passenger tint removed. Also, the back window on my car is basically half ductape and the other half has no visibilty, no one has given me problems for that.

[AppleBonker]

Krash, light transmission would mean light passing through, not being blocked. Definition of transmission. So 35% would block 65% or allow 35% to pass through.

[krash]

wait.... I think I wrote that backwards.... Window tint percentages are so confusing.

[AppleBonker]

Low tint percentages are darker. NY allows 70% or higher. Nala has 35%. It's illegal. So he's going to court to argue that other cars are illegal and not being pulled over, so he shouldn't either. It's a flawless argument. If he throws in the part about it just being a revenue stream, he get out of the ticket without trouble. In fact, they may pay him for teaching the court about the legal system.

[numbnuts240]

it doesn't matter. what matters is that he's going to go to court with his fancy schmancy suit, and his "i'm right, you're wrong" attitude and get raped in the a** by the prosecutor with a 18" diameter cactus, no lube. too bad you can't video tape that kind of stuff.

[sx moneypit]

[krash]

Low tint percentages are darker. NY allows 70% or higher. Nala has 35%. It's illegal. So he's going to court to argue that other cars are illegal and not being pulled over, so he shouldn't either. It's a flawless argument. If he throws in the part about it just being a revenue stream, he get out of the ticket without trouble. In fact, they may pay him for teaching the court about the legal system.

I think he's arguing about the rear tints on other cars and stuff being dark or whatever, and I don't think the law applies to rear windows. Also, the "other people were doing it so how come I got in trouble" thing doesn't work.... I tried it for my first speeding ticket.

However, I do smell sarcasm.

[Bubba1]

it doesn't matter. what matters is that he's going to go to court with his fancy schmancy suit, and his "i'm right, you're wrong" attitude and get raped in the a** by the prosecutor with a 18" diameter cactus, no lube. too bad you can't video tape that kind of stuff.

[numbnuts240]

However, I do smell sarcasm.

that wasn't sarcasm you smelled, i have gas this morning.

[krash]

oh you, an your sarcastic butthole

[numbnuts240]

[breadbox]

Lol. Go to a different Dept nowhere near you that does have a properly calibrated device. Get what it registers at, on paper. If its illegal, pay ticket and either hope you don't get pulled over or get legal tint.

Or get a medical exemption. Like you get migrains easy or some shizz, IDK what exempts a person.