NC FOLKS: **Scammer Alert: '90silvia/90RPS13/Alec Bradford**

[AZhitman]

...as David Lee Roth would say...

"Might as well, BUMP!"

[H8tred]

Wait until I get hold of Discount Tire tomorrow.....

Oooo, you getting me some wheels for my birthday?! Haha, keep us updated on what they say. I want nothing more than to see him fail until he makes things right and admits his wrong doing... Even then I might continue to hate him, just because I enjoy being a hateful bastard...

[Razi]

Oooo, you getting me some wheels for my birthday?! Haha, keep us updated on what they say. I want nothing more than to see him fail until he makes things right and admits his wrong doing... Even then I might continue to hate him, just because I enjoy being a hateful bastard...

Hence your name! : H8tred

Alec!! You sad Emo Scammer you

[ArticDragon192]

WTF gives you guys the right to mess with someone's GB? He's helping out people on Z ilvia and other's to get some cheap wheels for even less money. Many have already gotten their refunds if they didn't want to wait for the wheels they wanted to come in stock. The thread is constantly updated and he answers all the questions made, even though they may have been answered multiple times already.

Ok, so the dude may have some bad history on here, but many on Z ilvia still trust him, and it's apparent in the GB he's putting on. And no, I'm not supporting him just because I'm a Z ilvia member. I've been on NICO longer than I have been on Z ilvia. So don't pull that card with me. Don't believbe people have gotten refunds? Contact those members yourself and realize that all this BS is unnecessary.

And goddammit, stop stealing my silhouette images of the S13 chassis.

[AZhitman]

He needs to refund EVERYONE. Not just the people on that forum, but the people here.

And if he doesn't like it, he can come defend himself here. He won't because there's NO excuse for what he's done.

I do appreciate your point (to a point), but the fact is, he hasn't made EVERYONE whole.

Oh, and by the way: We have sponsors that can offer the same pricing on MB Weapons. He's not doing anyone any favors.

[ArticDragon192]

Not everyone is on NICO. people go for what they see and know and have access to.

I also don't see why he has to defend himself on a forum he's not active in and in a forum he's not doing the GB on.

BTW, which sponser can offer the same pricing? I can't find it, lol. Cause 450 and 530 shipped seem like a banging deal to me. If I can get that price without tax, then I'll agree with you on that,

Seems like a lot of people jump the hating bandwagon.

[Jiggyfry]

WTF gives you guys the right to mess with someone's GB? He's helping out people on Z ilvia and other's to get some cheap wheels for even less money. .

What gives people the right? Read the previous pages. Unfortunatly something like what he did will haunt him forever. Trust is hard to earn yet easily lost.

[shiux]

Not everyone is on NICO. people go for what they see and know and have access to.

I also don't see why he has to defend himself on a forum he's not active in and in a forum he's not doing the GB on.

BTW, which sponser can offer the same pricing? I can't find it, lol. Cause 450 and 530 shipped seem like a banging deal to me. If I can get that price without tax, then I'll agree with you on that,

Seems like a lot of people jump the hating bandwagon.

you sir, are ****ing retarded. im sorry, but youre honestly saying that him scamming so many people, is okay? defending a criminal is no better than being a criminal. you dont condone his actions, but youre okay with them? i double hate this guy, because ive been scammed before, and because he makes popping your collar look bad. haha i want to punch him in the nose. shame he isnt from my area

EDIT what i said isnt a directed so much towards this statement as it was your first one. also, no ones jumping on a hate bandwagon. people know whats right and wron g (mostly) and dont want others to be wronged. if someone killed your mother, would i be jumping on a hate bandwagon if i called them a sick degenerate, or whatever? extreme comparison, but still

[rexhunta]

i'm a well known person over at evom.net, used to be a mod there, and i know a lot of people high up in their food chain.

they know the situation and have already acted on it
Modified by rexhunta at 9:51 PM 4/10/2007

[H8tred]

someone give me a link to the original thread of him stuffing people up

i'm a well known person over at evom.net, used to be a mod there, and i know a lot of people high up in their food chain.

Here you go bro, my membership is still pending lol. zer...age=1

ArticDragon192, please understand that this isn't some petty Nico vs. Z ilvia ordeal. He has at least $1,000.00 owed that I can think of off the top of my head. It wouldn't matter if he was a member of Nico, or any other site, the facts are facts and he shouldn't be able to conduct ANY business deals anywhere until his prior obligations or fulfilled. I don't give a **** if he ripped of the Ford Fiesta Club, I would still feel the same. Not to mention that he's blatantly bad mouthing this forum for no better reason than us calling him out on his bad dealings. I don't feel that you're protecting Alec, I feel that you're just confused. I would agree with you if I was just doing it to do it in spite of Z ilvia, but that's not the case.

I feel that people should know about the risk, even though he seems less likely to bite the hand that feeds him (Z ilvia), it could still happen. If 4 people in that group buy don't get their item or a refund for option A.(17x9's +17 Gunmetal $450 Shipped Retail $528) That's a free new 240 for him... I wont stand by and watch that happen. As far as him not being an active member here, maybe I'm stupid, but he posted that he is dead less than 12 hours ago. That's active enough for me... I just thought I would pass the info on to Z ilvia since no one there seemed to care that Alec has passed on...

[H8tred]

Oh, would you look at that. It would seem that he has misplaced someones refund...

[dickie]

que?

[Feint of Heart]

Oh, and by the way: We have sponsors that can offer the same pricing on MB Weapons. He's not doing anyone any favors.

So yeah, which sponsor is that? Email me, or just post on here whatever you want to do Greg.

Funny thing was...I was going to jump on that group buy. It didn't occur to me that he was '90Silvia...as I had just seen the name '90Silvia on the OTHER forum earlier that day...now I need to get a hold of Chris about this.

[ArticDragon192]

Here you go bro, my membership is still pending lol. zer...age=1

ArticDragon192, please understand that this isn't some petty Nico vs. Z ilvia ordeal. He has at least $1,000.00 owed that I can think of off the top of my head. It wouldn't matter if he was a member of Nico, or any other site, the facts are facts and he shouldn't be able to conduct ANY business deals anywhere until his prior obligations or fulfilled. I don't give a **** if he ripped of the Ford Fiesta Club, I would still feel the same. Not to mention that he's blatantly bad mouthing this forum for no better reason than us calling him out on his bad dealings. I don't feel that you're protecting Alec, I feel that you're just confused. I would agree with you if I was just doing it to do it in spite of Z ilvia, but that's not the case.

I feel that people should know about the risk, even though he seems less likely to bite the hand that feeds him (Z ilvia), it could still happen. If 4 people in that group buy don't get their item or a refund for option A.(17x9's +17 Gunmetal $450 Shipped Retail $528) That's a free new 240 for him... I wont stand by and watch that happen. As far as him not being an active member here, maybe I'm stupid, but he posted that he is dead less than 12 hours ago. That's active enough for me... I just thought I would pass the info on to Z ilvia since no one there seemed to care that Alec has passed on...

People are in constant contact with the dude. Not one day has passed where he hasn't given updates on the status of the GB, the status of refunds, etc so I really don't see how he's scamming people there. Isn';t that what most people want from people organizing a GB. Hell, I was gonna get a set from him. I know his history but he's an OG member on Z ilvia and many of the old timers do trust him enough to give him money for the GB. He's put in a lot of time and effort to get something going for us.

you sir, are ****ing retarded. im sorry, but youre honestly saying that him scamming so many people, is okay? defending a criminal is no better than being a criminal. you dont condone his actions, but youre okay with them? i double hate this guy, because ive been scammed before, and because he makes popping your collar look bad. haha i want to punch him in the nose. shame he isnt from my area

EDIT what i said isnt a directed so much towards this statement as it was your first one. also, no ones jumping on a hate bandwagon. people known whats right and wron g (mostly) ad dont want others to be wronged. if someone killed your mother, would i be jumping on a hate bandwagon if i called them a sick degenerate, or whatever? extreme comparison, but still

I never said scamming was ok though. i've been scammed several times and each time I've never been able to recuperate my loses. And wtf does propped collars have to do with anything? I'm saying it's a hate bandwagon people you guys doin't see what's going on with the GB.

And H8tred, stop misleading people on here with the "misplaced" refund.

I hope someone chokes him out with his anal-bead necklace.

Popped-collar queerbait...

BTW, if he's not banned over at that little punkass forum, someone let me know - I got a little something for them.

Is that a threat towards the members of Z ilvia?

[AZhitman]

Here's the pricing he's "advertising":

(A.)17x9's +17 Gunmetal $450 Shipped (Retail $528) (B.)17x9's +17 Bronze $450 Shipped (Retail $528) (C.)18x9's +15 Gunmetal $530 Shipped (Retail $668) (D.)18x9's +15 Bronze $530 Shipped (Retail $668) (E.)17x9 +17 Fr/18x9 +15 Rr Any Color $490 Shipped (Retail $598) (F.)17x9 +17 MB Competitions Gunmetal $525 Shipped (Retail $620)

According to Discount Tire Direct and DirectPerformance, these wheels are NOT CURRENTLY AVAILABLE!!!

THEY ARE ON NATIONAL BACKORDER.

They are now aware of Alec's little scam and will be addressing it with him (BTW, his father is involved as well).

[Dammitboy]

Articdragon, stop being gie. Alec is a well known douche bag & there's no sense in defending him, unless you guys is close.

Once a scammer, always.

[digzsublime]

I think we should just let Arcticdragon figure it out for himself. Go ahead bro, give Alec your money and when you get squat in return, don't come cryin here.

As far as him being a member in good standing on Z ilvia, most of the people who have posted negativley about him scamming have been banned and their posts deleted. So, how are the Z ilvia members supposed to know?

[Feint of Heart]

Here's the pricing he's "advertising":

(A.)17x9's +17 Gunmetal $450 Shipped (Retail $528) (B.)17x9's +17 Bronze $450 Shipped (Retail $528) (C.)18x9's +15 Gunmetal $530 Shipped (Retail $668) (D.)18x9's +15 Bronze $530 Shipped (Retail $668) (E.)17x9 +17 Fr/18x9 +15 Rr Any Color $490 Shipped (Retail $598) (F.)17x9 +17 MB Competitions Gunmetal $525 Shipped (Retail $620)

According to Discount Tire Direct and DirectPerformance, these wheels are NOT CURRENTLY AVAILABLE!!!

THEY ARE ON NATIONAL BACKORDER.

They are now aware of Alec's little scam and will be addressing it with him (BTW, his father is involved as well).

Alright, I'm not sticking up for anyone when I post this but...

The thread you were linked to Greg, was his feeler thread on Z ilvia, in his actual GB thread, he states that these wheels are on backorder.

http://www.Z ilvia.com/f/showthread.php?t=137673

That is the actual GB thread.

Quote from Alec in his thread -->

"Refunds were given because 17x9 +17mm Weapons are on Backorder for a few weeks. First wave is now delayed and I am currently extending the GB to

17x9 +27mm Weapons17x9 +17mm Compsand18x9 +15mm Gunmetal Weapons

until the 17x9 +17mm Weapons come instock."

Later on in the thread he also says other models are in fact on backorder and refunds are available to people if they do not want to wait.

[Hamann]

As a friend of Alec I would first like to say that he is not a terrible person. This whole GB thing on Z ilvia is legit in my eyes. I am not an active member of that site so I cant tell you what is going on but he drove with me to get my Z32 about 2 weeks ago. And during the hour and a half drive we talked about what he is up to and he talked remorseful for the bad deals with NICO but he was trying to go legit and get his named cleared. I know what he did was wrong and it disapointed me to find out his bad deals with people but in his defense Alec is not a bad person but when it comes down to it he will put his family before anyone. Yet again i dont know the whole story on what he did but i dont think any of you know the whole story either. Alec has been put between a rock and a hard place and he chose to make sure his family was safe and secure. People can change and they can make things right but making death threats isnt gonna get you your money back.

[dickie]

so why do they get refunds when the rest of us have to struggle and wait 6 months + and watch him buying and selling other crap continuously?

why do we have to prod him for weeks to get any info from him?

how is grand larceny, mail fraud, wire fraud, impersonation etc... (all felonies) helping his family?

i know more about alec and his situation than you think. two wrongs dont make a right.

you guys defending him want to point out how "legit" his current deals are, but they are still based on thousands of dollars that he obtained from innocent people through fraudulent means with the help of a forum that supports and covers up for him.

i dont think you will be able to change anyone's mind that has dealt with alec and gotten shafted much less the FBI and DA when the **** hits the fan.

actually that would be the best way out of it, as i understand the authorities aren't looking to beat him retarded whereas some of the people with "private interests" may not be as gentle.

[the_momo]

Here's the pricing he's "advertising":

(A.)17x9's +17 Gunmetal $450 Shipped (Retail $528) (B.)17x9's +17 Bronze $450 Shipped (Retail $528) (C.)18x9's +15 Gunmetal $530 Shipped (Retail $668) (D.)18x9's +15 Bronze $530 Shipped (Retail $668) (E.)17x9 +17 Fr/18x9 +15 Rr Any Color $490 Shipped (Retail $598) (F.)17x9 +17 MB Competitions Gunmetal $525 Shipped (Retail $620)

According to Discount Tire Direct and DirectPerformance, these wheels are NOT CURRENTLY AVAILABLE!!!

THEY ARE ON NATIONAL BACKORDER.

They are now aware of Alec's little scam and will be addressing it with him (BTW, his father is involved as well).

i recently got some of these wheels from my friend who is a district manager at discount tire here in mi. they were, are, and always will be on natinoal backorder simply due to the way mb motoring ships their products.they do two(yes two) total major shipments from overseas every year. it takes minumum of six months if they are out of stock.

and i paid less than 400 a set and they were ready to mount when i got to the store.....thats a crappy gb. gl to any of the tards who buy into that.

[Feint of Heart]

I am in no way sticking up for him, I'm just saying what I saw on his group buy, that I had been watching.

d!ck, you are one of the reasons I am now not going on this group buy. The action that you originally took in regards to Alec showed me that I should not buy from him as this seems to be an often occurrence with transactions regarding him. If you read my post a little ways up the page, I did not put 2+2 together, to realize that this 90RPS13 was the same '90Silvia. Now that I know this, I probably will not be buying from this group buy.

[AZhitman]

Adam, I understand completely.

Guys, the big concern is this: The money was taken. It wasn't refunded in full. Now more is being taken.

And the guy in charge of vendors through DTD wasn't very reassuring.

Guys, if you want MB Weapons, let me see what I can arrange - Keep your damn money until the wheels come in.

[Hamann]

so why do they get refunds when the rest of us have to struggle and wait 6 months + and watch him buying and selling other crap continuously?

why do we have to prod him for weeks to get any info from him?

how is grand larceny, mail fraud, wire fraud, impersonation etc... (all felonies) helping his family?

i know more about alec and his situation than you think. two wrongs dont make a right.

you guys defending him want to point out how "legit" his current deals are, but they are still based on thousands of dollars that he obtained from innocent people through fraudulent means with the help of a forum that supports and covers up for him.

i dont think you will be able to change anyone's mind that has dealt with alec and gotten shafted much less the FBI and DA when the **** hits the fan.

actually that would be the best way out of it, as i understand the authorities aren't looking to beat him retarded whereas some of the people with "private interests" may not be as gentle.

d!ck I am sorry for what alec did to you to everyone he shafted. When i read your original post detailing your communications with Alec it infuriated me. I know this wont make anything better but i am new to NICO and i am still trying to decide what he did to who. I know this is asking alot but compile list of what he owes to who and i will give it to him personally. Other than that, the illegal activities he did would you go to jail to make sure your family has a roof over there head. Cause i would. Yet again i would like to take a middle ground because the kid is like a brother but I will try to get any merchandise that is owed to there rightful owners. BY THE WAY TO ANY ONE OUT THERE WHAT HE DID IS ILLEGAL BUT MAKING DEATH THREATS IS ALSO ILLEGAL. and it wont help you get your stuff back.

[dickie]

1: i never made a death threat of any sort.

2: when he does go to jail, not only will he not be able to provide for his family, he will be fined for much more than he owes us all combined. his actions represent the kind of short-term thinking that will keep them where they are right now and force him to continue to operate his less-than-legal operations.

its not going to take long before he scams the wrong person and ends up facedown in a gutter over this ****. i guess then his family will have to do something else to get money and it wont be pretty. i know for a FACT there are people looking for him right now, and it would be pretty easy for me to drop a line to some locals there and get the info they need. id rather see justice done properly.

as for a list of all the people he scammed, its all in the 14 pages of the other thread, and he should know everyone since he has names and addresses.

[AZhitman]

Hamann, your efforts are appreciated, but Alec can communicate with these people on his own.

Let's not paint him as a "martyr" because his family members have fallen on hard times or made poor choices in life - We've all been through crap, but we don't resort to jacking our friends.

Let's just hold him accountable, through whatever means necessary.

[Hamann]

Greg your a scholar and a gentleman just let me know what I can do.

Also d!ck I didnt mean to imply you made death threats but they were made.

[H8tred]

People are in constant contact with the dude. Not one day has passed where he hasn't given updates on the status of the GB, the status of refunds, etc so I really don't see how he's scamming people there. Isn';t that what most people want from people organizing a GB. Hell, I was gonna get a set from him. I know his history but he's an OG member on Z ilvia and many of the old timers do trust him enough to give him money for the GB. He's put in a lot of time and effort to get something going for us.

My point, but he comes here where he owes parts and money and says he's dead. He ignores the emails and other various forms of contact from these people he owes. Like I said, it would seem he "trys" to keep a better reputation on Z ilvia. In the meantime, he scams on countless other forums and even ebay for ****s sake. Stop being so greedy, your post only shows that you only care about yourself and Z ilvia "Ooooo, kiss his nuts, he's getting us not really discounted wheels woot"

As a friend of Alec I would first like to say that he is not a terrible person. This whole GB thing on Z ilvia is legit in my eyes.

Who cares if it's legit? The fact of the matter is he shouldn't be trusted holding his boyfriends wang until he pays what is owed... Creditors don't give you credit while you're in debt, why should it be any different anywhere else in life...

Other than that, the illegal activities he did would you go to jail to make sure your family has a roof over there head. Cause i would. BY THE WAY TO ANY ONE OUT THERE WHAT HE DID IS ILLEGAL BUT MAKING DEATH THREATS IS ALSO ILLEGAL. and it wont help you get your stuff back.

So while he's keeping a roof over his parents head he can still afford to buy cars, car parts, and sell sell sell? He shouldn't have a car, or be buying parts for that car, he OWES people money...And there are no death threats. He came in here and said he was dead, and we just mused the idea that he suggested ultimately deciding that he is full of **** (Again)...

I never said scamming was ok though. i've been scammed several times and each time I've never been able to recuperate my loses. And wtf does propped collars have to do with anything? I'm saying it's a hate bandwagon people you guys doin't see what's going on with the GB.

And H8tred, stop misleading people on here with the "misplaced" refund.

Again, I don't care what's going on in his Group Buy. Take your time and read this real good like. HE HAS SCAMMED PARTS AND MONEY, HE HASN'T RETURNED THIS MONEY OR PARTS. I'M NOT GOING TO 1. LET OTHERS FALL FOR A SCAM. 2. OR LET OTHERS CONTINUE TO THINK THAT HE IS HIGH AND MIGHTY. The people that scammed you, did you kiss their nuts and suggest to your friends that they too should purchase something off of them? No? So why are you kissing up on Alecs ***? OOOoooo, he didn't scam you. I forgot that makes it ok...You're now on my douche bag list with Alec. Congrats, Douche bag...

And that refund is in fact misplaced until he gets his money... Like I said, 4 "Misplaced" refunds, and Alec' got another car, or four sets of kouki tail lights, or a set of "Baller" wheels as you people like to call them. I accuse him of nothing he hasn't already been known to do.

[H8tred]

Hamann, I'm not trying to be a jerk to you, so long as you're sincere in your efforts to help these people with their issues with Alec. However, I will continue to inform people of his bad dealings until this is cleared up. So from myself, and all those involved, Thank you for your help.

[WDRacing]

If everyone pooled money we could hire a PI and have him trashed forever, legally.

Any and all people that do not understand that this individual is a scam artist ate naive at life in general. This will end badly and I'm seriously going to enjoy the coming, "I Told You SO".

If anyone were to take my money, they are taking away from my children and my family, which isthe very excuse he's using to take your money in the first place. I take things like this seriously. Never take food from my kids mouths. If he took moeny from me, getting put in jail would be his best option. I'd seriously enjoy slowly lowering his body into an industrial woodchipper.

WD