N/A Q45 0-60 5sec 1/4mile in 13.5 detuned a bit.

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N/A Q45 wrote:blah blah blah
Nice temper tantrum. I don't think anyone will miss you, since you haven't contributed anything but fantasies and excuses.

It sucks to get called out by people who have built more cars than you've even DRIVEN, kid.

So, let's get back to this 13.5-sec Q45, shall we? We still don't know where you got that number, considering you've been backpedaling since you started spouting off. GPS? What kind? How did you set it up?

For an event SO monumental, I'd hope you remembered how you did it. :rolleyes:

Maybe, just maybe, you're a kid who's never driven anything remotely fast... but the Q FEELS fast, so then you decide to take your Super Street knowledge and make up a story about your Mustang-killing Q45. :)

Would you be interested to know what a supercharged Q45 running 6psi does in the 1/4?
How about Wes's chipped Q with race gas, a 4.08 rear end, Level 10 transmission and a fat shot of nitrous?
Or maybe we should invite Sijoko in here, with his monster turbocharged Q?

See, there's a lot of history here. A lot of us are old guys who have built many modded cars. We have lots of track time, lots of time in the garage, and a pretty intimate knowledge of the VH45DE and what it's capable of. So, why would ANYONE just blindly accept your blabbering as fact?

Let's get down to some facts, starting with this: How was my injector post "BS"? You claimed the "pattern" is different for a 270 than a 370. Wrong.

How about you tell us where you were able to view the spray pattern? Let's start with that load of crap. No further posting until you explain - fair enough?

We'll be waiting.

p.s. I'm not gonna ban you - You dug this hole, now you get to figure out how to crawl out of it.


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Lol well I'm not a "kid" nice try though sounds like you need a timeout in the corner for a bit as I thought you would get all tear eyed.. Sad but o well not my problem.

And as for you saying

"Let's get down to some facts, starting with this: How was my injector post "BS"? You claimed the "pattern" is different for a 270 than a 370. Wrong. "

^You really need to take your time when you read as you clearly get overwhelmed.
I said you set 370s to the same psi I and running and see what your afrs read if it even runs.
I have also found the best max pressure for the 270s from building my ka and watching the stream form the injectors at different psi. Maybe you can learn something from this but who knows. The more psi you can run the more it wants to pull air in with it aswell like a collector in a exhaust system (please search if you don't know how they work) + at 8 inches at the psi I run the stream breaks up into a mist and mixes with the air better (please search if you don't know).

I have been building engines since I was 16 starting with my N/A MX race bikes.
Not saying I "know everything" anyone who does is the one that knows nothing.
Even with the 270s the vh's afrs are not good, at 3500 they start at 13.1:1 and by readline hit 11.5:1.. And its way to lean before 3500 to make power as you can see in my older 0-60 this thing is 10.2:1 I don't see any reason it can't break its hp/L 450hp for -its 4.5L other then the fuel map intake and headers. Some people on here seem to think they need to rais the compression when you really don't.
This motor and ecu are good aside from those few things such a** all of its timing is in by 2200rpm and it adds 15* from what is on the crank so you can run a lot and the starter can still turn it over.
I never said "I can beat a mustang". I posted 2 videos for people to compare.
I'm not in a hole, just a place no one believes what this car can do but it doesn't matter to me.
Your turn:)

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N/A Q45 wrote: I have also found the best max pressure for the 270s from building my ka and watching the stream form the injectors at different psi.
And what did you use to "watch the stream"? (real technical terms there, kid) You still haven't explained that one... We're waiting.
N/A Q45 wrote:Maybe you can learn something from this but who knows.
Go f*** yourself. Your typing is so incomprehensible and poorly-spelled, it's hard to believe anything you type.
N/A Q45 wrote:The more psi you can run the more it wants to pull air in with it aswell like a collector in a exhaust system (please search if you don't know how they work)
I own a company that manufactures exhaust systems. How about you try to educate me... BTW, a collector doesn't "pull" anything in. It's a closed system. Care to keep spouting off?

Besides, you put "glass packs" on a Q45. That's some real trailer park stuff right there. Did the clerk at PepBoys tell you they would add 50 hp? :)
N/A Q45 wrote: + at 8 inches at the psi I run the stream breaks up into a mist and mixes with the air better (please search if you don't know).
It's called "atomization", genius. And if fuel is not properly atomized, you're doing it wrong. Did you just learn this stuff?

I think you've been squeezing your d*** when you pee, daydreaming of being an engineer.
N/A Q45 wrote:I have been building engines since I was 16 starting with my N/A MX race bikes.
...as opposed to supercharged and twin-turbo motocross bikes? :rotfl
N/A Q45 wrote:Some people on here seem to think they need to rais the compression when you really don't.
Really? Find me one person who thinks it's a good idea to increase the CR of a VH45 above 10.2:1.
N/A Q45 wrote:This motor and ecu are good aside from those few things such a** all of its timing is in by 2200rpm
Nope. Peak advance is higher. Do you know how the VTC works?
N/A Q45 wrote:I posted 2 videos for people to compare.
Good job! Neither of those support your wild claims of a 13.5 sec Q.

How about this: Go get a camera. Have your Mom sit in the backseat and videotape your dashboard, while you do a full-throttle pull for a full 1/4 mile. That'll be the proof. Should be easy for an accomplished "street racer" as yourself, right? :poke:

Go! Hurry! Put it on YouTube!!! :wavey:

Anything less than that means you're full of crap, and we're bored of your tall tales.

Interestingly, Dinan Engineering did over 40+ dyno pulls on a 90 VH (more power than your 94) with 28-29 degrees additional timing at 6600-7300 rpm, and the best they got was 318 flywheel hp and 337 lb/ft. But, I suppose you're much smarter than those guys - You should apply for a job with Dinan! :rotfl

p.s. Don't tell them you went to a drag strip and did a burnout in a 15-sec car... they'll laugh at you.

Get that video yet? What are you waiting for? I have my apology all drafted and ready to go! :)

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Wow I love when someone gets so upset and just talks to try and make them self feel better^ lol you're not making me look bad but more this fourm, you are what I call a online wanna be hero.

#1- I used my eyes there girly, try it sometime- (take a fuel rail with injectors hooked up spin the distributor and have the injectors sitting in a large cardboard box outside, get a ruler place it under the stream or on the side of it and watch and leanr what is the best distance for what ever injector you're doing this with. I like to keep things under 80psi so the injectors will last longer).

#2 - I'm really trying to keep the words as small as possible so you don't get overwhelmed and I'm sooo sorry if I didn't catch every time my wackbeerrryyy spellllcchheeccckkksss I hope you didn't loose sleep over it, I know I didnt-

#3. "BTW, a collector doesn't "pull" anything in. It's a closed system. Care to keep spouting off?".

^ After you saying this I now know you must be a - special - lil'guy.

---the whole point of a collector it to scanveng the exhaust from the other pipes, as one pipe pulls the exhaust from the other as it goes past it at a higher velocity and vise versa-- sorry I had to use some bigger words there.. Just search google to figure them out lil'guy.

And with your lack of knowledge I end the conversation with, you're just not worth my time sorry.. But feel free to let your fingers fly typing if it helps you sleep at night, I like to think I made a difference today :) lol

P.s get another day job since you don't even understand how exhaust systems work. Take care.

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N/A Q45 wrote:take a fuel rail with injectors hooked up spin the distributor and have the injectors sitting in a large cardboard box outside, get a ruler place it under the stream
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA Why would you "spin the distributor"? What does that have to do with the fuel rail?

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Lol well my 240sx has the crank angle sensor in in the dizzy :) .. Was really hoping you would have atleast done a search or something but you are a -special- lil'guy . Like I said before I'm glad to see you responding even when you make no sense, atleast I know you will be sleeping well at night:). That would be in my mind someone would embarrass them self this much. And I did you the favor of tell you what it means.

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You do understand that you're arguing with the founding fathers of VH modification, right? I mean I get that this has been mentioned a couple times, but it doesn't seem to be sinking in. You can't come on and blabber some nonsense referencing your TomTom and your s***-tire burn outs. You installed the wrong injectors, made a couple high-schooler mods, and apparently forgot to calibrate your butt dyno. Since you've basically humiliated yourself here on a forum full of educated, experienced, and genuinely knowledgable people, AZhitman is right, you've dug your own hole. Next time you should probably think about what you say and who you say it to, because maybe one of these days your Q will break, and all of the knowledgable people that you insulted would surely be happy to lend a hand...

This argument does not pertain to me, thus I apologize to everyone else for sticking my nose in, but it's people like you that have the tendency to ruin a forum for everyone else.

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I can just see this retard with a fuel rail, propped up on a cardboard box, dorking around with fuel pressure until he *thinks* he's making something happen.

Like I said, you should go get a job with Dinan, since you're smarter than all their engineers.

p.s. Your Q is still slow, and you're still making up stories.

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I can picture it lol. For anyone who has actually powered up a fuel rail off the car, it's quite a terrifying experience lol. Not sure anyone would voluntarily sit there with a ruler lmao. Ah man, oh well. On to the next idiot.

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Next, he's gonna tell us he was using water... LOL.

Speaking of which, what fluid DID you use, Joe Dirt? I'm gonna pass out laughing if you say "gasoline."

If this genius ever saw what went into testing injector flow rates (low, med, high pulse, static) properly, he'd quit with all this "wannabe engineer" chatter and just admit he's curious.

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Maybe someone can fill me in, but how can OP claim a 13.5 if he hasn't even taken the damn car to a race track after modding?

OP, until you show a timeslip or a dyno print you're just blowing hot air... Smells like farts, too.

Edit:: Okay, I just realized that I only read the first page. Carry on with the OP hatin'. :spitout:
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Oh my, what moron. 13.5's in an na q? Haha. His gps told him it must be true.

Go to the track or dyno or shut the f*** up kid. You're arguing with people that have done s*** you read about. Beat it. Go to Carolina Hondas and try and impress them. If you told me you swapped a built ls1 I may have believed this.

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Spray pattern is different? Lol

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**epic post transmission**

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This is why I don't go on fourms because there are just soooo many f'n stupid ppl..

^you guys are ridding his d!ck-
He doesn't even know how a dam collector works. So if he knows more then all of you I don't know how you can even figure out how to post-

You think you're tough because you call out "kid" and "shut the f up" lol I guess any b**** feels tough online . It woudnt be going like this if I was standing infront of you-
Rather funny but kinda sad unless you're some kid then it would make sense.

You guys have fun rubbing eachother and when I do make it to a track I'll get videos of it. Hell I'm not even saying I believe its a 13.5 car but with its 0-60 in low 5s on a bad day I think it will do alright when the 1/4mile opens. That's when I'll know for sure what it runs.
Happy rubbing-

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You know what they say... "Rubbin's racin'!"

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It's easy to shut us up...prove it

If I say something, people believe me as people on here know me. You have no clout and you're making what seem to be outlandish claims as opposed to the norm. Prove what you're saying. Get a go pro and go street race a ctsv and beat it, ill stfu then.

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Ill meet you somewhere and race you in my Gloria, and if you win you can have it. You won't ever get a better deal than that.

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AZhitman wrote:I can just see this retard with a fuel rail, propped up on a cardboard box, dorking around
you have inspired me lmfao brb

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N/A Q45 wrote:Hell I'm not even saying I believe its a 13.5 car
:rotflmao

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N/A Q45 wrote:take a fuel rail with injectors hooked up spin the distributor and have the injectors sitting in a large cardboard box outside, get a ruler place it under the stream
I HAD TOO.... I SIMPLY COULDNT PASS UP A MOMENT TO NOT MODEL THIS.....

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HEY, N/A Q45, YOU CAN SEE BY MY FACE, I WAS SPINNING THE DISTRIBUTOR AS FAST AS I COULD. I HAD ABOUT 12" OUT ON THE MEASURING TAPE - HOW MUCH HORSEPOWER YOU THINK MY ROGUE IS MAKING NOW? ACCORDING TO MY GPS TORQUE APP - 275HP!!! :woot: what a siiiiick mod!
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I love this formus

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Wait, is this guy Canadian?

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ImStricken wrote:
N/A Q45 wrote:take a fuel rail with injectors hooked up spin the distributor and have the injectors sitting in a large cardboard box outside, get a ruler place it under the stream
I HAD TOO.... I SIMPLY COULDNT PASS UP A MOMENT TO NOT MODEL THIS.....

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HEY, N/A Q45, YOU CAN SEE BY MY FACE, I WAS SPINNING THE DISTRIBUTOR AS FAST AS I COULD. I HAD ABOUT 12" OUT ON THE MEASURING TAPE - HOW MUCH HORSEPOWER YOU THINK MY ROGUE IS MAKING NOW? ACCORDING TO MY GPS TORQUE APP - 275HP!!! :woot: what a siiiiick mod!
This literally made my day. Thank you.

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ImStricken wrote:Image
Dude... look at the wet spot on the cardboard. You're spinning the distributer THE WRONG WAY. You made it come out backwards.

Sheesh. Can't even follow directions.

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A few things:

Xenon-SER, have my babies?
ImStricken, if Xenon-SER says no, have my babies?

Now, I admit most of everything posted in this thread is way over my non-uber tech savy head. However, general population credibility was lost here...
N/A Q45 wrote:Ya I have a dyno right around the corner-
...here...
N/A Q45 wrote:No dynos around here
...here...
N/A Q45 wrote:The olny dynos around here are 4hrs away
...and here.
N/A Q45 wrote:a few weeks ago I used the gps 0-60 timer
Also, if you think that cold air is good for an engine, you are doing it wrong. Dont you remember the song? What did you think Foreigner was talking about? Love = Horsepower. Cold as ice, sacrificing my horsepower, damn CAI.

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I usually lurk (which is bad - I know) but I haven't laughed this hard in a long time. :rotfl

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Theoretically, a smaller injector with higher fuel pressure WOULD have better atomization characteristics... its actually why Nissan was toying with the dual injector per cylinder idea as opposed to direct injection.
Still, that isn't going to make the giant difference in power that you're claiming. It's also not doing your fuel pump any favors.

Oh, and if you want to lean it out even more for a few pulls before your ECU learns to adjust the injector pulse, try dumping a few gallons of alcohol in. Although you're claiming you already have a means to tune, so why not just tune out the richness at the upper RPM range?

On it's best day, this thread is very contradictory.

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I can't believe how funny this s*** is gettin'. :chuckle: :chuckle: Canadians... :bs:


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