My build thread - Project Oreo

[Magnum375 Jr.]

I dont think you quite understand, if it were that simple, It woulda been done yesterday, and I'd have my wheels on. The lugs are rusted onto the studs, and the studs stripped out the fancy little teeth pattern on the hub, I assume. I cant get the damn wheel off.

[zach-Ka]

Dude that is a pita. The wheels look pretty good though. If you sell it I believe you would regret it, I know I have debated selling mine a lot along the way but am so glad I never did. GL man...

[hbpignosePA]

man, you have been having bad luck

that car is seriously f***ed; its 10xx harder to pick up someone's project and make it be reliable/ s*** not breaking

it will work out cheer up

hell my turd still dont run, i fried two ECUs and its a 3000 lb paper weight

[Ender_Zero]

Vise grips and a drill? I'd just drill the damned things out. When the 240 throws a curve ball at you like that you gotta get creative to show it who's boss.

Wheels look nice though.

[Dizel01]

Haha. Ditch that car and buy my red hatch.

[brn-n-jpn]

Do Not Sell It... if you can put the lugs baack on that you have take it to A&R and they will fix it for you get new studs from andvanced (z32) and get opened ended lug nuts for all the wheelsUnfortunealy im not in pa to help you, i have had that same problem before and it a full day to fix but i also had and impact gun a one of those sockects that take rounded bolts out

Hey but the wheels look nicehope all goes well

[TheBlaiant]

Try using a torch and heat them up and then hit them with an impact gun.

[Lonismos14]

How bad was that intercooler coated with oil.

[bersh240]

new plan.invest in a blue wrench.then.GO CRAZY

[Magnum375 Jr.]

Thanks for the support and Ideas guys, I'm not selling it, I've invested too much time and money and interest into this to give up now. Just another set back. So I think next saturday if i got time I'm going to jack it up, drill the lugs, pull the tire, pop in 1 one stud, and check the damage on the hub. If the hub is good, i'll get some new studs, I'll order lugs right away, and I'll be good to go. If not ill still have 3 lugs to hold the wheel on so it remains moveable.

Lonismo, I'm not sure if you are being serious, but if you want the IC, ill sell it for 60 plus shipping. The hot and cold pipe are yours as well for 50 plus shipping, and then I can do all of it together for 100 plus shipping.

[Didderson]

I'm not sure if you mean the lug stripped out OR the lug nut twisted the lug bolt and chewed out the hub hole. Probably the latter.

You only have to drill out the lug nut until you get to the stud. Think about it. Then the nut will fall off and you win the game lol.

If you wanted to not buy hubs yet just throw those lug bolts we got at the junkyard in the holes and fkn weld em in there LOL.Good to hear you're ready to tackle another 240 problem. s*** will get easier.

[cyb3rneticvirus]

i was waiting for Magnum375 Jr. to say he pulled a gordon freeman on the car lol

[Lonismos14]

Lonismo, I'm not sure if you are being serious, but if you want the IC, ill sell it for 60 plus shipping. The hot and cold pipe are yours as well for 50 plus shipping, and then I can do all of it together for 100 plus shipping.

Naw im dead serious. But i was also reading and you said it had alot of oil in it. Thats why i was asking.

Can you post up some up close pics with a tape measure, it comes with the blowoff valve and every thing correct.

And yes i will buy it.

JUST TO LET EVERYBODY KNO IM DONE JOKING AROUND CAUSE THIS BACK AND FORTH STUFF JUST ISNT FUN ANYMORE.

[Magnum375 Jr.]

I'll clean the IC out for ya, and take some pics sometime this week, I'm not sure you want all the home depot fittings and pipes, and my BOV adjuster decided to strip itself out so The BOV would need a bigger sized thread and rod. I dunno, I'll measure but its not a full setup you'd have to come up with the piping to connect the hot pipe to the IC, and the IC to the cold pipe. I have fittings for all the stuff, except no turbo outlet to the hotpipe. Im telling you all this up front because the kit really doesnt belong on any other car, it shouldnt be reused but if you want it, I'll gladly sell to ya. Infact I'd almost be tempted to say 100 shipped for ya, 1 IC and hot pipe, cold pipe and all the pipe clamps and turbo fittings, and if you want me to dig up the pipes they used to connect everything else ill do that, but if you want all that extra crap, then 100 plus shipping.

[Magnum375 Jr.]

Tom, the lugnut stripped and got stuck on the threads of the studs, and they prolly rusted because these ebay lugs are hollow. So when i went to remove them, they prolly stripped the teeth that grab off the stud, or worse off the hub. But I'm sure its just the studs bolts stripped.

[Didderson]

Hey well that sounds a lot easier than what you think. I have a few easy out bits that would fit in the stripped hole so we can try that before drilling it out.

Sounds easier than what I assumed was wrong. If the easy outs dont work we can weld a nut onto the s***ty lugs to get em off.

[Magnum375 Jr.]

Still not getting it bud....While they are stuck on the stud, the stud spins inside the hub. So its very very difficult to get it to break the lug, I'm just drilling them out, prolly this weekend maybe.

[Didderson]

ok i get it now. Yeah that's what I feared. O well.

[Csomme]

Saw the stud off from in between the lug nut and the hub itself. After that's said and done, hammer the stud out of the hub. Grab a new stud. Wrap the end in teflon tape, slowly but surely using good lugnuts pull that sucker into place. Don't do this s*** again.

If you tell me ytou can't do it, go take a video and prove it to me. Stuff happens to everyone man.

[bersh240]

Saw the stud off from in between the lug nut and the hub itself.

and how might he do that?last time i checked theres a wheel in the way...

[Magnum375 Jr.]

I think he wants me to get the sawzall out and cut my wheel in half first, like the vdub guy. Yeah, pretty much what im doing, is what you are saying to do, except replace CUTTING with DRILLING.

[Csomme]

ohhhhh. Okay, wheel in the way. That would make sense.

Have fun with that.

[Magnum375 Jr.]

So update, LOL, been a long a** time, but I havent made much progress over the last 2 months, I have been saving money, sorta. I buying MGE's front hubs off his car so I can fix my hubs and continue with this car. I got a guy possibly doing the rust fix, saturday next weekend is the day for that I think, but I have a prom to go to the night before with a post prom ending at 5am, so who knows. My gf yanked the headliner and assisted me on swapping the guages. I got super pissed with the 2 12mm bolts on the steering column yet again, they started crossthreading and I couldnt get them going straight, Tom came over and helped me out. I got a little bit of the sound deadening out and I think I'll go hardcore OCD about it soon because school is about over for the semester so expect to see this thread booming again. I am going to be painting the hood Orange for sure sometime this summer.

[troskinatior]

It sounds like every time you work on your car you have a problem, I have the same issue.

[Magnum375 Jr.]

Well, I have a decent amount of parts laying around already, but I ordered some new stuff, mostly to fix the hub issues. I bought MGE's front hubs, they are GTO/Attain, with brand new OEM S13 bearings in. They are going in next weekend possibly. I also ordered a set of open ended muteki Lugs. I bought a 25 dollar ebay rear strut bar, just because it was 25 shipped to the door, so why not. I got a pic of it installed.



So, funny pic here, my girl's mom wanted to get her hubby a gift for fathers day, aka, grill, and she brought their avenger, and needless to say, it didnt fit. I was already there at lowes because we met her there, and I moved some stuff around, and put the grill in the hatch. LOL, so I had to take a pic to show the versitility of the hatch. It scratched up the body a bit where the tables are, oh well, its a beater/drift car, so oh well.



So I'm excited to possibly install the welded and/or the hubs next weekend.

[Didderson]

That pic beats the s12-club org pic I saw of a guy who fit a stand up jet ski in his s12 hatch. Liftback win indeed.
Was the strut bar installed when the grill was put in there?
I'm so glad your car's easier to jack up than mine (at least for the moment) so we can swap diffs because it took me forever to get it in the air for DS install saturday haha.. I cut the inner area of side skirts so scissors can hopefully fit.

[Magnum375 Jr.]

Yes the bar was installed too LOL. I was about to remove it so i could make sure the grill stayed, but didnt feel like it, so we just bungied it down in a few spots and ran it like that.

[240sxjoe92]

Thats pretty funny...a grill in a 240...

[Magnum375 Jr.]

Well saturday night started out as a welded diff install....and turned into swapping the left front hub. And lemme tell you, my car needs anything but a welded diff. I went to Tom's (Didderson) and we jacked the car up off the ground.



Got another surprise to see that my oil feed line is lubing up every part of my car. I need to fix this pronto, so I'll have to yank the manifold AGAIN and fix this thing for good. I'm thinking OEM banjos with new crush washers, removing the braided lines. I havent made my mind up yet. So anyways back to the project. Tom was so anxious to use his welder and weld my bad studs up front so I could get the lugnuts off. I was trying to under the anti roll bar bolts, and I noticed every single rear bushing is cracked, dry rotted, and needs replaced. So energy suspension bushings are needed soon. So Tom begins welding and he welds the 2 studs we thought were bad. He goes and breaks those lugs loose and gave me false hope, thinking it was that easy. NOPE, turned out we welded the 2 good ones in place. LOL. So he began laying material the 2 bad ones. The first set of welds sucked, and they broke under a small amount of force. I was frustrated and Tom just continued to lay down beads of weld. Well, second time around, we let them cool longer, and Tom had increased voltage on one of the studs, needless to say, that one held and the lugnut came right off. So we knew we had to complete this. So about 2 hours later, the second one finally held with a tonnnn of material on it, and we had to make a trip to advanced auto. But here is a sight that brought on a celebratory brew.



So I had to get a 30mm socket for the wheel nut. Tom drove me out to advanced and we got it, came back and we figured it was a walk in the park from here.



NOPEEEE, this hub proved that it was not going anywhere, anytime soon. We tried with a 2 foot breaker bar, each of us laying on it with all our might, and we kept rocking the car all around and I was nervous that the car was going to fall off the stands so we stopped for a bit and thought about it. The next idea was taking the jack handle and putting it over the breaker bar and both of us pushing. LOL, no help, we even did our little engineering math, and figured we were putting a 500+ lb ft moment on this thing and the nut would not budge. Tom finally got an ingenious idea. Get the floor jack, and just jack up on the handle of the breaker bar. Needless to say, Tom made me do the jacking up, as the harbor frieght tool bent like it was plastic. I let it down and put the jack handle over top as a safety incase it exploded. I reset and tried again. I got the bar up pretty high and suddenly a large crack came out. Immediately I knew the tool broke, but amazingly it was fine. I didnt think it budged the nut but it infact did, because I reset and it worked and moved the nut again. Success, hub swap was easy from here on out.



UNTILLL, we noticed that the stock wheel bearing separated, and the backhalf was jammed into the spindle. Luckily with a flathead screwdriver and some BFH power, it popped off.



So on goes the new hub, torqued to 138 ft lb, and go to put the wheel on and what do you know, I still got an issue.



Some fuggin retard welded a steel washer inside the wheel thinking it would fix the hubs issue from before. So we had to drill that out. Drilled it out, and slapped the wheel on, put the new mutekis on and test drove. No wobbles, or out of balance issues. I do need new rotors though, as these would not pull away from the pads, they are sunk in really far, way past their effective life span.

Here's the finished product.



In the bottom right hole, you can see the washer thats welded in there, this is fine, because new wheels finally go on thursday. I have plans half the week and I need to help my parents out with some stuff wed, so I'll have another update soon. Rust repair is gunna happen soon too.

[hbpignosePA]

thats all you two got done?

s*** is weak son