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Magnum375 Jr.
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Well, it gets plenty of airflow from wind passing by it, doesn't need to be directly in the airflow, just as long as the air gets to the veins its being cooled. It is very very effective at creating boost response, because it doesnt have to travel far from the turbo to get to the intake mani, and because you won't run a bov, it doesnt let boost bleed out, it maintains through the shifts. It only has 3 feet of piping versus the 6ft + you may have for a front mount. Also depends on what you are setting yourself up for, if you're gunna be on the throttle forever, and hardly letting off, front mount would be the way to go, but for a drift car or something you daily, and wanna be sorta sleeper, then the highmount is the way to go.


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Definitely good to know. Why wouldn't you have to run a BOV? is there less compressor surge, or none at all?

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The high mount setup is actually a great idea. I'd have to see feedback from someone who has put it on prolonged track sessions to see how effective it was before I said there is no difference between this and a front mount.

Lastly, the kit probably doesn't come with a bov flange to keep the costs down, and to simplify production (hks flange? greddy flange? hoiben glaben weinerschnitzel flange?). There are plenty of quality BOVs they don't leak or bleed boost. Anyone with a MAF should be recirculating anyways.

The only people I've seen using the high mount setup have been drifters. I'm hoping some brave soul will put one in their road racing cars and can give feedback to the rest of us on how good they are on the track.

Lastly, I'd keep my front mount just to floss my totally trick a** logo.

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the parts look great... but i dunno about the orange hood lol

and im going to have to hold of on getting another 240 now, the military is sending me to Texas instead of Maryland and i leave next Tuesday for 6 months but it great pay more money to spend on the next 240

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Damn sorry to hear you gotta go to Texas Dante, Hope you do well out there.

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Didderson wrote:
I need to look into this synchromesh oil...
its GL4 so brass synchros like it. its the balls. use it. its one of the rare few affordable GL4 rated gear oils.

for the diff, GL5 is needed.

NEVER put GL5 in a 240sx trans. chemically bro-rapes the synchros.

advance auto sells it. a combo of a qt of that and some lucas oil treatment in my gearbox brought my 5th gear back.

trans fluid needs time to warm up, so that explains your 2nd gear issue. just drive it to warm it up. prob solved. lucas oil treatment will make the oil stick to your gears, preventing them from spinning dry.

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Turbo Rebuild!!!!!!!

Start:

We got back to my place, setup shop, and began.



LOL, funny pic here,



15 min, we gave up, 2 bolts stopped us, in fear of breaking them, and we realized we didnt have all the tools to do the job, we both looked at each other, and said, lets just install this one, since it has 0 shaft play, so that goes in tomorrow....hopefully that goes smoothly, I gots a girl to chill with tomorrow night....unless we arent done.

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Magnum375 Jr. wrote:Hehehehe, so I forgot to mention, in order to cheer Dante up, I bought him pizza and he requested grape drank....dunno why LOL..... He was pretty happy about it..



Thanks again Keegan for the pic....LOL.....Great time yesterday.
um.... hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha...

i like this thread.. good work man.

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Do the hood in orange, or the front bumper.

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hey!orange hood is MYYYY secret plan.gettt offff!

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So what happend to these supposed rims you were supposed to be getting....hmmmmmmmm, lol and sweet update can't wait to see more

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As much as I want to say it, 240 is not running once again. I'll do a real write up tomorrow of what happened today, but I'm not going to be emo, but im pretty bummed. Joe the wheels are delayed because off XXR only giving their first run of wheels to bigger name vendors, so I have to wait til the end of the month. But thats the least of my issues right now, I have a leaky oil feed line that spewwwwwwwws oil out, i lost about a quart moving it maybe 200-300 feet tops.

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I wonder who caused the turbo to spit oil.


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gotta love when people modify fittings...

that didnt need modded...

at least this turbo is quieter :D

we gave her a good college try today tho. and we got to see dante pre-"deployment" of sorts

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Yes, my car was hit by an STD, she has all kinds of discharge now. My main plan of attack is as follows, hoping that Keegan has a stock oil feed line, I can swap that in and it will work with the modified shattastic JBweld fitting. If that doesnt happen, over spring break, I'm rebuilding my original turbo, and ill take all week, idc, and then over the weekend or something ill throw that in, now that I know exactly what im getting into. It sounded great and nice and smooth with all new gaskets, just sorry to see the snail trail up the driveway and cul de sac.

OH and i've picked my new color for the hood, "Smurf Orange"

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hey smurf orange was my idea... but don't get bummed out just think you have a 240 and i dont

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Oi, so here we go with this update.

Ok so I started the day with the usual, jacking the car up via scissor jacks. Got it up on the ramps, and drained the oil. Things going great, Keegan wakes up in time for me to ask him the location of the oil filter. Well, needless to say, I hate Nissan engineers for this one thing only. So I cant get the filter off even after trying from the top. So I said screw it, ill get it later. So Keegan and I start tearing in, removing everything from the drivers side of the engine. Exhaust mani, with the turbo and unbolting the downpipe. I was extremely busy this time so my pics are going to be random and suckish. I'm really struggling to even bother writing this update, because it sucks to write about a failure. So fast forward, Keegan and I remove the mani and turbo.





I spilled more coolant and oil in one day then I ever thought possible. So we drained the coolant from the block and put the coffee can down. Dante shows up around this time. So we got a list together of things we needed, and headed out to advanced auto. Well needless to say, we got everything but the oil return hose for the valve cover. Someone who did the swap figured heater hose was great for 500 + degree oil to pass through. Keegan flipped everyone out at the counter when he called off the all the info for the downpipe gasket, getting a 300zx tt turbo inlet gasket. Dante and I just laughed, as the guy was scrambling to keep up with what keegan was saying. I failed to pick up my purple magic I bought, which sucked, but I'll get to that. I also purchase new vacuum line that actually fits the wastegate actuator and the boost controller. I also got an oil filter wrench for that stubborn oil filter. Here is a pic of Keegan and Dante playing with vacuum hose.



So we went to A and A auto parts, no luck there. We went to Auto zone and met Johnny Trans brother, who took us back to the hose section, nearly annhilating his face after slipping on a box of JB WELD, again proving its good for NOTHING!! So we finally get the hose and head back to the house. We start kicking a**, and get the studs swapped over on the turbos, and then we hit the cause of my non running car. Somebody in their infinite wisdom, decided to make a wonder JB WELD thread pattern for the oil feed line. Now seeing that I have braided oil lines, I cannot put my lines in as deep, because of the copper washers. Well, needless to say, in order to sink the link in the thread deep enough, we had to removed a copper washer, and pray the JB weld provided a well enough seal. So we assembled the turbo and got this.



Remember the turbo has all new gaskets now, which is great. So we still have to get that oil filter off. Well, amazingly, someone found out that a 91 maxima or altima filter fits the sr block. Well, the oil filter wrench i bought doesnt fit it. Great, so I let Dante poke a hole in it. Well, he goes to turn the filter with the screw driver, and it just bends the cheapo filter more. So we now have a broken filter and no way to remove it. So I needed to pick up the degreaser anyways, we needed some more stuff from advanced, so off we went again. I got my degreaser and a new oil filter wrench for this filter. So fast forward, filter wrench slips right off. Note I first tried to remove the filter at 12pm, its now 7:30pm, and finally, the filter comes off. Dante got it off...heres the aftermath.



Here's a small mess we had.



And Dante just chillin.



So now we start reassembly, we hurry up and clean up all the pipes, and elbows, bolt the turbo on the car, connect the oil and coolant feed and return lines. Hook up everything, Pull the CAS plug out, turn the car over to prime after I refilled the fluids. Plug it in, crank the car and it idles perfect for about 5 min. No leaks nothing, As I'm about to get under the car to jack it up, I see the leak start. And it escalates. And so we shut off the car, and we all know immediately the problem. That stupid oil feed JB WELD fix on the turbo. So Now I have a few options on what I'm gunna do. So i just said screw it, we drop the car, and fire her up back her out and park. I walked outside this morning and this is what i see in the cul de sac.



So my options are as follows, in order from cheapest to most expensive:

1. Rebuild my original turbo, as I have the kit and turbo and I wont need to purchase anything else, just the invested time.

2. Acquire stock feed lines, removing the braided lines, and installing these and reusing the ghetto feed line JB weld craptastic stuff. (THIS IS MOST LIKELY NEVER HAPPENING-----JUST A TEMP OPTION)

3. Cancel Wheel and tire upgrade, and Purchase T28 S15 BB Turbo and be done with this whole mess.

I've chosen to go route number one over my spring break. And for a while, I will not be asking anyone for help, I feel as though my family is already mad with me for this weekend, I dont wanna pull anyone into the unwelcoming atmosphere I have going here, so all my work will be done inside on the workbench and then in the cul de sac, as I am NO LONGER permitted to use my garage, per my dad. I'm sure that will change the first time I go to jack the car up and it collapses my scissors, but I have no other option. So there ya go. How to do a turbo swap in a day, and make mucho backward progress, ooooohhh, and GENTLEMEN AND LADIES, THIS IS A PROVEN FACT NOW----- 240's are the vagina repellant, if you are looking for a lady, and make prior plans, and plan on working with the car earlier in the day, be prepared to piss the girl off, and the car not doing what you want, because the car is jealous you wont be riding her, instead you wanna ride the hot blonde girl from your chem class who wants to study anatomy. Ok, with that said....

On a positive note, I come home today to see my wood wheel came in. I think the horn was never used, and I think I'm not using it either, I'll just install a train horn on my car and use an auxilary battle switch, just for s***s and giggles. I also think this wheel is a 350mm not a 330mm as advertised but oh well. Here's my pic, and thus concluding my wonderful depressing update.


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Go with option 3.

Please for the love of god don't get under the car with scissor jacks. I've had a brand new scissor jack collapse and almost crush me.

I'm embarrassed to tell anyone I own a 240sx, let alone a girl I'm chasing.

Oh btw, we all go through setbacks on a car. I've got a stripped transmission fill bolt on mine that needs me to give it some attention still.

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i am sorry for your loss.

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Bumnah, I wont be getting under the car with the scissors, I know better than that, I'll be jacking the car up to get a bigger jack, I just know the scissors will collapse because the cul de sac has a small slope to it. So I can only go so far, I'll put the ramps under the fronts and do the same thing as I do everytime. And Chris, thank you. LOL, yeah she was not happy when she called twice and I didnt answer, so when I called her back her first words were, on a scale of 1 - 10 how pissed do you think I am, I just simply replied 10 or higher if you are giving me a scale. LOL, so yeah, don't make plans with a girl and a car at the same time.

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that really sucks but im sure things will start looking up. i wasnt aware a 91 maxima or altima filter would work. i know a 91 sentra se-r filter works though. it wasnt really funny but it was a little to see how much trouble you had getting the oil filter off. good luck on rebuilding the turbo

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I have jackstands joel. I can lend you some indefinitely seeing as I have at least 8 of them lol.

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Jeez, stop using band aid methods and just replace everything with brand new reputable parts. Then you will never have to worry about crap happening cus things are rigged up with JB weld. Spend all your money on the things that need it most then get all the dress up stuff later.


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LOL, Knowledge is power, but anyways, I have 2 jackstands, 1 floor jack, and 2 ramps, I'm in good shape. I'm not reusing this turbo thats leaking like a whores vag, I'm gunna rebuild mine since i have the rebuild kit Dale. And If that doesnt work, t28 time, simple as that.

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Ok, so another quick part update, got my diff back from my friend at work, 50 bucks for 2 plates. Here ya go, love it.




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So, he's been welded for about a week now?



It'll still hold, though.

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Dizel01 wrote:Jeez, stop using band aid methods and just replace everything with brand new reputable parts.
it was not any of the people that are pictured in this weekends pictures that jb welded the fitting in the turbo.

we didnt do that. the previous owner of the turbo that did. to hold a homemade oil restrictor in, which was unnecessary anyways.

so all in all, stuff went PERFECT until that fitting's goopy fix decided to not hold oil pressure.


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Nah Doug, they are legit welds, they were made for strength, not beauty. I told him as long as it held, i didnt care what it looked like.

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2871 yeah

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So, I bought Stock sr oil and coolant lines for 25 bucks shipped off zilvia. I'll be temporarily mending the ghetto turbo by scraping the jbweld flush to the turbo housing, and using the stock fittings. If stock lines dont work for some reason, I'll attempt the braided again. I'll start with just changing the oil feed, to just fix my issue. I'll still rebuild my turbo, if I can't, T28 will be right around the corner. I have 0 patience with bullsheit, so I'm not gunna keep d!ck with this stuff.


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