Learned'd VIII: Less Bewbs, Same Nonsense

[Kompresshun]

Dave, I know you're trying to group me in with every other whiny d!ck consumer that goes on the war path about stupid s***, but I can promise that you're incorrect. I give plenty of products a chance, but when they disappoint me numerous times over the course of a few years I typically shy away from them. It's just an opinion combined with a bit of a rant. IDGAF if anyone agrees with it, I am just sharing my opinion.

My first bad experience was with a Samsung Home Theater system that caught on fire after owning it for less than a year. Always kept in an open space and kept clean, but out of the blue one day it started pouring smoke and flames out of the back. In the garbage it went.

Then I had a Samsung Android phone(I forget which model), which was the biggest piece of garbage i've had in my life. I went through 3 of them in 2 months time due to horrible battery life, constantly crashing, and quality issues.

Next up I had a Samsung Galaxy Nexus, which again was a huge mistake. Constant battery issues and no matter what I did to it, I was always having issues with the OS. Rooted or stock, no matter which ROM it completely sucked a**. I was so happy when the day came that I could finally dump that hunk of garbage.

I had a 23" LCD monitor that started losing pixels and had bleeding issues within a year.

That's just a few that come to mind. To each their own though. I am fully aware this doesn't apply to everyone. I just have had much better luck with other manufacturers.

[MinisterofDOOM]

I really strongly dislike Samsung phones myself. I am not quite sure what everyone else sees in them. I have cross-shopped them many times, and never found them particularly desirable. My sister and mom always have the most recent or last-gen Galaxy S, so I have a lot of hands-on time with them. Here's what I don't like:
-The build quality feels very cheap compared to others
-The cases are plasticky in a non-durable kind of way. Transparent/white plastic cases feel very cheap, light, flimsy, and just non-premium. Mostly, though, they feel like something that won't stand up to daily use. Worse, the slick transparent/white plastic is about as grippy as snot on tefon. In contrast, the Nexus 5 could be described as plasticky, cheap, and non-premium looking; however that's not a problem because A: It's not marketed as a premium device, B: it's rubberized, grippy, and durable as a result of its materials and C: It's not actually cheap in practice, just on paper.
-They are EXPENSIVE. Excessively so, when compared with like devices from other manufacturers.
-Touchwiz is to Android what Metro/Modern is to Windows.
-Samsung REFUSES to adopt Android design standards, like onscreen buttons.
-Samsung is too busy following iPhone design language while adamantly arguing that they are better than iPhone.
-A physical "home" button, alongside capacitive other buttons. WTF?! So weird. So much unnecessary bezel space. The bezel on my N6 is TINY, and still has room for a speaker at the top AND bottom.
-Knox. Seriously. @#$% that noise with 200 grit sandpaper.
-Community support for Sammy's proprietary Exynos chips is crap because Sammy is terrible about working with the community on it. Mercifully, most recent US-market Sammy phones have proper Qualcomm chips, but that's sort of beside the point. Wouldn't it be wonderful to have multiple choices of equal quality, rather than losing with Exynos and winning with Qualcomm? The chips themselves are actually great, there's just no support. Open source handset markets are based around being OPEN. This improves things for everyone involved. This is the business model everyone successful has realized is the way to go for many, many reasons. It is better for consumers, it is better for manufacturers; it's better for everyone. Samsung doesn't play that game. They can therefore EAD.
-ODIN. What a @#$%ing pain in the a**.

Samsung does some thing right though. Some things that other manufacturers have abandoned for cost or simplicity reasons, as well as just good ideas in general:
-Removable/replaceable batteries. They even offer optional Qi-compatible batteries for some models (though why this isn't stock on a "premium" flagship device is baffling in itself).
-SD card support. They still maintain this on most models (I think anyway).
-Great smart stylus support. Something that makes their phablet offerings worth considering above others, despite the inferior overall software and crummier build quality.
-Their displays are the best in the industry. Not just technically, but in terms of tuning and user tweakability as well.

At the end of the day, there is ALWAYS a phone that does everything a Sammy offering does, plus more, for less money, that's better built, more durable, and doesn't have effing Touchwiz. The only exceptions to this are the general lack of SD card and removable battery support in that competition.

The Galaxy Note 4 is $50 more expensive than the Nexus 6 despite being nearly identical specs-wise. It does have an SD card slot and the stylus and a removable battery, however. And it's the first Samsung device with proper build quality. It's still $50 more, for half the onboard storage (for which the SD card more than compensates).

At the end of the day, the decision is made by two things:
Nexus 6 does not have Touchwiz. Note 4 does. Do you want herpes, or not?
Nexus 6 will be vastly better supported.

For a lot of people, Touchwiz is fine. For me, it most absolutely is not.

What kind of battery life have you seen out of it so far MoD?

My first few days involved a LOT of downloading, flashing, tweaking, and exceptionally heavy use, so they were a poor metric. Today was my first "normal" day of use, and it looks like this:

I am hoping to run a PCMark battery life benchmark at some point, but haven't had sufficient downtime (which is a good sign).

[WDRacing]

The camera on the Note 4 is way better than the Note 2 is what I meant. IDGAF if its the best. I'm not that dude. I like what I like. Pretty sure Samsung makes really good s***, I own a f*** lot of it. I don't Iphone, so that will never be a consideration. Way too many shortfalls for ME personally.

I'm not trying to say ANYTHING is the best. Cause it's all open to what the user wants. I like Samsung phones, they do everything I've ever wanted them to and I have beat the crap out of all of them. I'm a drunk mechanic ffs. I break s*** ALL the time. I dropped my phone in a bucket of water while it was on, down 2 flights of stairs where it actually fell the first flight without contacting a single stair, blew the F up at the bottom and worked fine upon reassembly. Those are a few among hundreds of drops and etc. In fact, if the Note 2s camera didn't suck I'd buy another Note 2. Btw, it only has a cheap Walmart case on it. It's not defended all that well for who it lives with.

When a product/company treats me well, I continue to purchase them. I'm sure there are better products, but I'm happy with Samsung.

[Kompresshun]

I mirror pretty much everything you mentioned MoD. I think the thing you mentioned that still gets me pissed off the most is their obsession with not adopting traditional Android standards and their obsession with the iPhone.

That's why they're trying to create their own OS right now, because Android is pushing more and more manufacturers to adopt the standard Android interface starting with Lollipop, but Samsung is greatly opposed. While I think Samsung is completely dumb for not adopting that, I think Google is making an excellent move by doing so. It will allow for more OS updates and bugfixes without having to wait months for the manufacturer to roll out their version of the update, which some never bother to do at all.

At the end of the day, the decision is made by two things:
Nexus 6 does not have Touchwiz. Note 4 does. Do you want herpes, or not?

Troof

The camera on the Note 4 is way better than the Note 2 is what I meant. IDGAF if its the best. I'm not that dude. I like what I like. Pretty sure Samsung makes really good s***, I own a f**king lot of it. I don't Iphone, so that will never be a consideration. Way too many shortfalls for ME personally.

I'm not trying to say ANYTHING is the best. Cause it's all open to what the user wants. I like Samsung phones, they do everything I've ever wanted them to and I have beat the crap out of all of them. I'm a drunk mechanic ffs. I break s*** ALL the time. I dropped my phone in a bucket of water while it was on, down 2 flights of stairs where it actually fell the first flight without contacting a single stair, blew the F up at the bottom and worked fine upon reassembly. Those are a few among hundreds of drops and etc. In fact, if the Note 2s camera didn't suck I'd buy another Note 2. Btw, it only has a cheap <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.walmart.com/" target="_blank" title="Link added by VigLink" class="vglnk"><span>Walmart</span></a> case on it. It's not defended all that well for who it lives with.

When a product/company treats me well, I continue to purchase them. I'm sure there are better products, but I'm happy with Samsung.

Well of course it's better than the Note II and while I got off on a huge Samsung rant, the Note is probably the best offering from Samsung in my opinion. Overall it's a solid phone and it ranks up there pretty high with the others on the market, but for me i'd rather have something else. That's the beauty of the cell phone market though, is no matter what level of phone you're buying there's something for everyone.

IDGAF if anyone buys an iPhone and I don't try to sell anyone on it being the best. It's the best for me, but if you asked me to sell you on iPhones I wouldn't do it because everyone has different tastes and there are plenty of other great phones out there too. I like the iPhone because it's reliable and it works like I expect a higher end smartphone to work, but I have different standards and expectations than everyone else.

I had 4 Android phones and 4 Android tablets before I finally made the switch to an iPhone and bought another iPad. You can ask my wife - I bitched and complained all the time about every Android device I had, but I have not had one single complaint about my iPhone since switching last year. None at all. She said it was well worth the money to switch just so I would STFU

I have some product loyalty, but for the most part I buy based on what works for me at the time. I have a wide variety of brand names spread across my home and for example, just because my Toshiba laptop was the best damn laptop out there to me 7 years ago doesn't mean I would buy another one from them today. I like to go out there and put my hands on stuff before I buy it. I looked for 3 months before I bought a new phone. I'm still shopping for a new home theater system and have been for about 6 months now. IDGAF who makes it, because the next time I need a new one they may not even be around or they may make complete junk.

Nothing wrong with product loyalty though and nothing wrong with continuing to buy a product that treats you well

[WDRacing]

I hear ya. I don't always buy a Samsung or whatever brand I prefer. But I give it a solid test drive and I usually swing their way if the "test" results are close.

I bought this Sony Vaio laptop back in 07 iirc. I have a fan mounted underneath it to play the newer games at 1600 x 900 but it still plays every game I've tried to run. It runs Crisis 1/2 and all of the Mass Effect series on baller settings. So the Vaio series, or I suppose it's been replaced by now with some other cool guy name, will definitely be a solid consideration. Samsung was WAY more expensive for what you got. I'm also a lot more "into" my pc than my phone. Which might explain why the little things that don't bother me, probably make you wanna smash things with a hammer.

[Dattebayo]

Well, it sounds like a bunch of snobs arguing to me. I really don't mean to be mean about it that way, but I know the Touchwiz on the S5A doesn't suck a**. I don't understand all the complaining about it! I suppose I am a highly technical user, and I can find, do, and set anything the way I like it SO well, in fact, that I haven't needed to consider a new ROM as of yet. The battery life is pretty good, thus I haven't need to root it as of yet either.

Split-screen works SO wonderfully that I can run my business without really needing a laptop most of the time. I use terminal emulators, SSID programs and lots of document readers and creators. I have dropped it probably 100 times since I bought it 6 months ago and it operates the same as it has, no scratches on the screen either and it didn't have a protector for half of that time.

Compare that to my Mom's S4 and it's a huge difference in usability. My Rugby Pro wasn't all that bad either, except for it simply being inferior because of older technology. Just as tough, however.

[MinisterofDOOM]

I have heard that the leaked Lollipop Touchwiz builds are pretty good, actually. I am curious to see how it turns out. The touchwiz I've used on Galaxy S 3, 4, and 5 has been product-ruining, though. While it introduces a lot of neat features, it doesn't do so in the cleanest way. I find the notification toggles very messy, and a lot of the other convenience stuff works the same. It feels less like a cohesive ground-up package and more like a collection of wonky hacks--which I can easily get without Touchwiz and without the iPhonealike looks.

As far as Root, I really use it for one reason: maintenance apps. Backups, root access file explorers, that kind of thing.

Split-screen works SO wonderfully that I can run my business without really needing a laptop most of the time.

Oooh, right. Definitely one of their bigger plusses I overlooked in my list. Still very disappointed that stock android hasn't adopted it yet. Also another big reason their Phablets and Tablets are worth considering over cheaper ones. I've run a few AOSP-based ROMS with splitscreen, but sadly the stability is never where it needs to be. And, these days, I much prefer a stock ROM with mods than a fully custom ROM--which is good for Samsung users, too, as mod support for Touchwiz ROMs is growing fast.

When a product/company treats me well, I continue to purchase them. I'm sure there are better products, but I'm happy with Samsung.

This is true. I do this as well. I also have no problem strictly avoiding products from brands who treat me (or consumers in general) poorly--even if those products are the best.

Samsung has absolutely nailed down the marketing and customer loyalty side of things. The fact that every phone accessories store has an iPhone aisle, a Samsung aisle, and then an everything-else aisle speaks volumes for their successes there.

[Ace2cool]

Chris and MoD mirror my thoughts on Samsung as well.

Also, I'm on the Nexus 6 master race wagon too.

I went so far out of my way to buy it. By far the most frustrating anything to find ever. I called all the stores in the area for a week every day, but no one had it. I finally called a store, and they said they had it. I asked them to hold one for me, and they said they couldn't do it because of company policy, but they had some on the shelf, and to drive on over (a 45 minute drive) to come get one and they'd still have one. As I walked in the store, two people were getting their Nexus 6's set up. Turns out, those were the last two in the store. I was livid. Then they informed me there WAS another one, but they had just finished flashing the "Demo" software to it, and that doing so made it inoperable or some s*** like that, and was irreversible. I highly doubt that, but whatever. I usually don't get belligerent with stores or anything, but the fact that I called them and even offered to pay for the device over the phone, and they promised me that there would be one waiting when I got there, I was furious. I think it's the first time I've actually made a scene about something in public. I then called another store, and drove ANOTHER 45 minutes to barely skate in with 10 minutes left, and the people there were actually helpful and they actually held the phone for me. Another corporate store, owned by the same company, but that's beyond the point. Just made me even more mad at the first store.

It was worth the effort, though. Great form factor for such a big phone. Very few things I can't do one handed. Unlike my friend's iPhone 6 Plus. I HAVE to use two hands for it. That's why I'm not sure how you can have a 6 plus and love it, while saying the N6 was too big, Chris. The only dimension that's larger on the N6 is the thickness, and that's just because of the curved back, which makes it easier to hold and pockets better. You get more screen real estate with the N6, with a phone that's exactly the same size.

[Dattebayo]

Great. Now go drop it a few hundred times, work in construction with it and get back to us about it. I can't use a device that can't take a beating.

[Ace2cool]

I'm sure that my all aluminum monocoque design will hold up better than a snap back plastic design. Actually, I'd probably put money on that fact.

[Dattebayo]

aluminum monocoque

I'm not even mad.

[MinisterofDOOM]

Great. Now go drop it a few hundred times, work in construction with it and get back to us about it. I can't use a device that can't take a beating.

This is definitely a fair point. That's what I loved so much about my Nexus 5. I've dropped it a few times, and the soft plastic case just absorbs the damage and shows very few scars. Absolutely no damage to the screen, due to the rubber sides wrapping flush with the face. However, even it is pretty fragile--all smartphones are, unless they're oddball rugged models (which sadly never seem to feature top-end specs).

I do have to say I'm slightly disappointed that the Nexus 6 doesn't have a 64 bit Snapdragon 810. But then I remember that Android's software support doesn't really add any incentive for 64 bit, so there's no real loss there. The big.LITTLE architecture from the 810 probably do great things for battery life, though. Also: 810's are just awesome:

[Kompresshun]

Well, it sounds like a bunch of snobs arguing to me.

I will admit that i'm a bit snobby and passionate about my electronics. In my defense though, i'm the one spending the money on it so I feel like I have the right to be

I really don't mean to be mean about it that way, but I know the Touchwiz on the S5A doesn't suck a**. I don't understand all the complaining about it! I suppose I am a highly technical user, and I can find, do, and set anything the way I like it SO well, in fact, that I haven't needed to consider a new ROM as of yet. The battery life is pretty good, thus I haven't need to root it as of yet either.

I do have to say that I haven't heard anything bad about the S5 Active, even with the Touchwiz side of things, but it's a different animal than the regular S5 and the Note. It's designed for abuse and it's designed to last unlike most of Samsungs smartphone line. Two of our techs at work have them and absolutely love them.

I don't abuse my phones though and i'm pretty careful with them. I keep them in nice, durable cases and if they're not in my pocket they're usually laying on a table or desk. Now, my work iPhone 5c is in an Otterbox Defender case and IDGAF what happens to it so I usually tote it around with me more when i'm out in the shop or at a customer location. Thanks to the case, it's a pretty durable phone but I definitely don't work in construction and I don't have a need for a phone durable enough for that type of abuse.

Great form factor for such a big phone. Very few things I can't do one handed. Unlike my friend's iPhone 6 Plus. I HAVE to use two hands for it. That's why I'm not sure how you can have a 6 plus and love it, while saying the N6 was too big, Chris. The only dimension that's larger on the N6 is the thickness, and that's just because of the curved back, which makes it easier to hold and pockets better. You get more screen real estate with the N6, with a phone that's exactly the same size.

It's just a matter of taste i'd wager. I looked at the N6, Note 4, and 6 Plus numerous times and I just liked how the iPhone fit in my hand better. It was more comfortable and it was more visually appealing to me. I do recall the N6 being easier to use one handed, but it wasn't that much easier to me. I definitely see the screen real estate argument, but I tested each phone numerous times and I never recall thinking that any of their screens were noticeably larger or better than the other.

I think the other thing a lot of people don't realize about the iPhone 6 and 6 Plus is that they added a "One-handed" mode to it, so if you need to use it with one hand you simply touch(not press) the home button twice and it will basically scale all of the icons down toward the bottom of the screen allowing you to reach them. This also works in apps and while web browsing as well. I haven't really found myself needing to use it, but it's there if I did.

[Ace2cool]

Huh. That actually is a neat feature, and I'm sure most people don't know about it.

In my defense though, i'm the one spending the money on it so I feel like I have the right to be

This is what it really boils down to, right?

[Dattebayo]

I think the other thing a lot of people don't realize about the iPhone 6 and 6 Plus is that they added a "One-handed" mode to it

Mine also has this, as it is a little too big for most to handle it with one hand. I have wide, burly steel-worker kinda hands, so that definitely helps as well.

I tested the new Apple phones, and I feel like I'm gonna break all of them just by looking at it. And given all the scars and facial hair I've taken on lately, I can't blame that feeling.

As far as spending your own money goes, I understand. But I have little brand loyalty at all with electronics, and everything Apple is always just pricey compared to the alternatives. In my opinion, buying an Apple means you're just trying to make some kind of statement about your life (or are just being lazy) since they don't do anything very differently from other phones. You can very easily get something as reliable (if not more) with better options if you just look. And not even have to look hard, at that. It's kind of like the Mercedes of phones. lol!

I still try the new ones out every time they come out anyhow. I still have yet to be impressed.

If they (ever) make something that I can tinker with if I get bored, can change the battery out, can put an SD card into AND has a rugged screen and is waterproof, count me in. But until then, I don't see the point in owning a phone if it isn't at least any of those.

[Kompresshun]

If I had to be out in the field more, I probably would not own a higher end phone or I would leave it in the car.

I do think the general Apple fanboi does buy them to be a statement and I am by no means loyal to Apple, because if I were I wouldn't have waited 6 months after the phone was released to upgrade. I think their computers are absolutely outrageous in price, but I don't feel like all of their products are that pricey anymore compared to the alternatives. You absolutely can find something in an Android or Windows flavor that can accomplish the same things though. Personally I was not able to, but that doesn't mean someone else can because everyone has different standards and expectations.

See I don't think of an iPhone so much as a Mercedes, because it would break a lot more often. I would think of an iPhone more as a Lexus, because the Blackberry strikes me as more of a Toyota. They both are fairly reliable, but one has nicer features than the other and they're both fairly boring to most people.

[Dattebayo]

Okay, not to turn this into a OS war thread, but what are these "nicer features" you speak of that Apple has?

[Ace2cool]

NONE. THEY DON'T HAVE ANY NICE FEATURES. >:(

Except that one thing I already said.

I hate not being able to in-app change settings on Apple. Ludicrous setup.

[Dattebayo]

That's kinda my take on it... I could understand buying one when they were the innovators, but now that they just re-hash old ideas and steal other people's stuff, I can't see paying the extra coin for one. They only make one or two flavors of cool, and they're all some sort of vanilla anyhow. I don't really like vanilla, but I always give it a try to see if they'll make that one that has some chocolate mixed in.

[Kompresshun]

Okay, not to turn this into a OS war thread, but what are these "nicer features" you speak of that Apple has?

I think you mistook what I was saying, because that statement was merely a comparison between iOS and Blackberry OS, not Android. That's not a discussion I really want to get in either, because we can discuss what is better about each OS until we're blue in the face and neither of us is likely to feel any different as a result. I'm not trying to sell anyone on an iPhone being the best, because it's not. It's the best for ME, so i'm not sure why I need to justify that.

Quite honestly most of the features I like are in Android, but as I mentioned before it's all about the execution of it for me. I like how I can swipe up from the bottom and a menu pops up with Camera, Flashlight, Calculator, Stop Watch, and Music Controls no matter what screen i'm on. I like how I can easily multi-task on it and switch between applications smoothly, even when i'm on a phone call.

I could name off features all day long, but again it's not that Android can't do it I guess, it's that Android can't do it as well in my eyes. The iPhone has proven time and time again that with less it can do more. It doesn't need the most badass processor, the best camera, or the most RAM to accomplish what you want to do because every single app is already optimized for it before it makes it onto the device. Android simply can't accomplish this, because there are so many different devices with so many different types of hardware that it's going to react differently on each device and it's never going to give the same result.

Sure, Android can accomplish every single task I could ever need it to and it's endlessly customizable, but what it boils down to though, is if I spent most of my time trying to make an Android phone work like an iPhone then why should I buy an Android phone?

[MinisterofDOOM]

I will say this:

iOS has come a LONG WAY since the departure of Steve Jobs. Lots of great functionality has been introduced in the last two versions, now that the company has the freedom to DO things with the OS rather than just sticking with tried-and-true but very very stale. It still feels weird to me, though. When I had an iPhone 5s for a week, I found that the OS-consistent menu bar being at the top with the home button being at the bottom was unfathomably non-ergonomic. My thumb was bouncing all over the damn phone just for basic navigation. I also still can't understand the lack of an app drawer--something many Android variants have proudly adopted as a "feature" and not a design flaw as well. So dumb. "Folders" are great, but I don't need every single rarely-used app on earth taking up space on my homescreen, thanks.

[Ace2cool]

Quite honestly most of the features I like are in Android, but as I mentioned before it's all about the execution of it for me. I like how I can swipe up from the bottom and a menu pops up with Camera, Flashlight, Calculator, Stop Watch, and Music Controls no matter what screen i'm on. I like how I can easily multi-task on it and switch between applications smoothly, even when i'm on a phone call.

God, you need to try lollipop. Seriously. I feel like the last version of android you had was ICS. I can do all of those things. Without any manufacturer overlay. And God, the things you can make it do now. It's just awesome. And that's all without root.

The iPhone has proven time and time again that with less it can do more. It doesn't need the most badass processor, the best camera, or the most RAM to accomplish what you want to do because every single app is already optimized for it before it makes it onto the device. Android simply can't accomplish this, because there are so many different devices with so many different types of hardware that it's going to react differently on each device and it's never going to give the same result.

Again, that's a manufacturer-specific thing. If you tried a true Google phone, I think you'd find it a lot different. The pre-optimized thing is not entirely true either. There are still 3rd party developers, just like android. Difference is, android has more free apps, and iPhone has less, because they have such a high application fee. I've never paid for an android app and then still had ads. That's ludicrous.

[Kompresshun]

I have tried Lollipop. I still have my Nexus 7. I made myself use it for a couple of weeks instead of the iPad. Wasn't impressed. That's why it's been sitting in a drawer collecting dust for over a month.

I have quite a few paid apps on my iPhone and I've never seen a single ad. Not sure what you're talking about there. Hardly any of the free apps even have them and I definitely do not feel like they lack in free stuff.

I had a Galaxy Nexus, which was ICS and maybe KitKat. I forget. Anyways I never have liked the pure Android experience. It has gotten better, but it's just not for me.

This is what cracks me up. I feel like I'm discussing religion and politics here, because it's like it's just not ok for me to be content with my iPhone and have little interest in Android. Like I said above, we could sit here and go over every last detail of each OS for hours on end and you still wouldn't change my mind, nor would I change yours. It would be a battle of epic proportions, but I'm pretty sure we would probably bore the masses with it.

[frapjap]

I have an iphone. It doesn't even have music on it. Takes decent pictures, though. Its pretty good at talk to text. As a general, basic consumer who wouldn't own any smart phone if it weren't for being work sponsored, that fact that it just works like it should is important to me.

Sorry, I've added nothing of value to this conversation/debate. Please accept my apologies.


Happy Monday folks!

[Kompresshun]

Maybe that's where i've come to though, is that it just works when I need it to. I think i've already mentioned that, but it's the reliability and how well it works that makes it such a great phone to me. I don't need anyone to convince me that another product is better, because i'm happy with how mine works.

You did add something constructive to the conversation Ray, but i'm still going to accept your apology anyways because it's a damn good one.

[frapjap]

Shes very pretty- and a fantastic actress, too. Shes on "Forever.' Not sure as to which network, but the show is pretty cool and for being in its first season, the actors, plots, and writing all jives nicely.

Agent Carter is pretty badass, too. The fighting is fairly realistic, the costumes are fantastic, stunts are good, the CG is top notch for a television show, and the acting is top notch. I can't wait for that to show up again this week!

Fact of the matter is that I thought Disney buying Marvel would be a bad thing. I was wrong. Honestly, they don't half a** anything and all of their shows and stories so far have been fantastic. If you really think about it, they have the perfect ability and the right idea about how to utilize the comics. Movies don't get enough detail into the 2-ish hours they're allotted, but a TV series is an excellent medium for getting the page by page details and story similarly to a comic book. With them owning ABC, they have the ideal way to a great representation of our childhoods.

[numbnuts240]

Agent Carter is pretty badass, too. The fighting is fairly realistic, the costumes are fantastic, stunts are good, the CG is top notch for a television show, and the acting is top notch. I can't wait for that to show up again this week!

i fell asleep watching it, i was dead tired, but woke up to some guy talking that sounded a lot like jarvis. then i realized it was and that made me happy. maybe i'll actually sit and watch it tonight when i'm all done with my chores.

[Kompresshun]

The wife likes Forever. It's actually a pretty decent show. I don't go out of my way to watch it, but I can't say i've disliked a single episode i've watched.

I haven't been able to watch Agent Carter yet, but I know they really have brought it with Agents of SHIELD after the first few episodes. I may sit down and watch Agent Carter tonight.

Marvel and Disney are truly geniuses when it comes to marketing the Marvel movies and shows. I love how things cross-over into the shows from the movies, which makes it easier to keep up with everything. Even the slightest things make watching them more interesting, because you're always looking for those little hints and easter eggs in every single thing you watch. I really find it laughable that DC Comics even thinks they're going to be competition for Marvel anytime in the next 5-6 years when you sit down and compare what each side offers. Guardians of the Galaxy and The Avengers alone are enough to keep them rolling in the dough, but then throw in everything in between and it's just amazing.

Oh and Deadpool finally gets a movie too - which makes this guy very happy.

Speaking of Marvel - They finally acquired the Spider-man character back from Sony, kicked Andrew Garfield and Sony's garbage reboot storyline to the curb, and will be making Spidey awesome again. It's about time.

[Dattebayo]

Maybe that's where i've come to though, is that it just works when I need it to.

I can very easily say the same thing about mine. OH well, it's not that I actually expected to make progress with understanding there...

Fact of the matter is that I thought Disney buying Marvel would be a bad thing. I was wrong. Honestly, they don't half a** anything and all of their shows and stories so far have been fantastic. If you really think about it, they have the perfect ability and the right idea about how to utilize the comics.

Ah yes, the Disney formula. They will baffle you with BS until you like what they feed you. I'm guilty of it too, on many accounts.

Oh and Deadpool finally gets a movie too - which makes this guy very happy.

The previews that are out make me think it's going to be a disappointment. Have you seen them?

[Kompresshun]

I have a feeling I can't make you understand Dave, because I simply can't give you any good points aside from my personal experiences. You don't seem to experience the same frustrations I do, so there's no reason to waste your money. Stick with what works. I think we can agree on that at least.

I have seen the Deadpool "test footage" which is what got all of this rolling. I haven't seen anything else, unless I missed it. I have a feeling it will be a letdown compared to the rest of the Marvel lineup. I mean it's likely going to be super vulgar, full of gore, and likely have a ton of stuff that will make people groan that have seen other Marvel films. Deadpool is more of a niche fan base kinda film, so while I'll be lined up to see it, I'm sure a lot of my friends won't care for it. I'd still love to see him show up again in an Xmen movie to screw with Wolverine for s*** and giggles.