Inittial D engine i never heard of

Post by **The Mic** » Sun Jan 05, 2003 5:21 pm

anyone ever heard of a turbo injection system bc i havent. This ricer next door comes to my driveway while spray painting my new bumper and starts talking about his civic. I pretend im paying attention while i spray paint my bumper and all of a sudden he says " And instead of going turbo im gonna get that engine from inital d" im like " what engine" he says " u know dat engine from 2nd stage where he get a new engine, that turbo injection system" im like wtf is this guy talking about? So we bet 5 bucks to see if it exists. I asked daunt but he doesnt seem to know about this system either. Can yuo guys help me out?

Post by **The Mic** » Sun Jan 05, 2003 5:21 pm

LOL g1 K Car

YouTube · Post by **EZcheese15** » Sun Jan 05, 2003 5:21 pm

Well, as far as calling Initial D a "cartoon".......ugh....It makes me shiver that you used that word to describe it.

Initial D is VERY accurate and very technical also. The thing is, I don't recall at *all* a "turbo injection system." Ask the dude what car it was in, and which episode. I don't believe they ever said that, because if they had, I would remember it...cuz it makes no sense. Maybe "turbo induction system"??

Post by **themadscientist** » Sun Jan 05, 2003 5:21 pm

I think "turbo injection" just means a turbo fuel injected engine. Some old Zs run boost through sealed caburetors and are commonly called "carb turbo", I think this is just pointing out that instead of going "carb turbo" the character (hachiroku guy right?) was retaining the fuel injection with a turbo and going "turbo injection". Back when this cartoon was new such endeavors were noteworthy as there were no user freindly piggyback computers or engine management systems under $3000.00.Your neighbor is an idiot as you rightfully suspected, egg his car after you get back the torque wrench he borrowed from you, he doesn't know how to use it anyway.

Post by **sims** » Sun Jan 05, 2003 5:21 pm

well, you said it didn't right? and bet 5 bucks?

just tell him, prove to you that it exists, if he can't you get 5$...

then kick him in the balls for wanting a 4AGE in a honda...(wonder if they pull a premium around race wars, just like the sr20? :P)

Post by **specialkonrd** » Sun Jan 05, 2003 5:21 pm

Lost_To_A_K-Car wrote:I'm pretty sure it isn't real. After all, Initial D is a cartoon.

This reminds me of the time that I solved a mystery with a talking dog, some stoner guy, and a few of their friends. It was pretty exciting when we pulled the mummy mask off, and there was Old Man Witherspoon. He would have gotten away with it to, if it hadn't been for us meddling kids.

Good times, good times.

i take it you saw waynes world on tv last night too?

Post by **s0ldats** » Sun Jan 05, 2003 5:21 pm

lol...well your friend is a ricer + he doesn't even know how to watch cartoons....or maybe he just doesn't understand japanese....because the engine that takumi get's isn't a turbo 4age....it's a "touring A 20v 4ag" aka: formula atlantic 4ag.... those engines are real.

YouTube · Post by **EZcheese15** » Sun Jan 05, 2003 5:21 pm

s0ldats wrote:lol...well your friend is a ricer + he doesn't even know how to watch cartoons....or maybe he just doesn't understand japanese....because the engine that takumi get's isn't a turbo 4age....it's a "touring A 20v 4ag" aka: formula atlantic 4ag.... those engines are real.

His friend never said it was a 4AGE. And in either case, a FA 4AG is still not a Honda motor and should not be in a civic. Not to mention, how is he gonna find a FWD transmission for it? Hehe

Post by **s0ldats** » Sun Jan 05, 2003 5:21 pm

EZcheese15 wrote:His friend never said it was a 4AGE. And in either case, a FA 4AG is still not a Honda motor and should not be in a civic. Not to mention, how is he gonna find a FWD transmission for it? Hehe

of course he didn't say it was a 4age

...i wonder if ricers know any other names of engines besides "sr20" and "b16". Also, if i'm not mistaken....the only engine that is swapped on stage 2 is the FA 4ag..

edit:

to answer your question....it doesn't exist in initial d...and there is no "turbo injection" there are cars with turbo's AND fuel injection with the title "turbo injection" but it just means that the car has a turbo and has fuel injection...examples would be the peugot 505.

Post by **The Mic** » Sun Jan 05, 2003 5:21 pm

the ricer said it was in the 10th episode of the 2nd stage in initial d. It was when he had the other guy with the levin take a look under the 86's guys hood .the ricer imd me with this quote from the show to post here.

Levin guy: " But how can I be a worthy opponent against your Turbo Injection System?"

YouTube · Post by **EZcheese15** » Sun Jan 05, 2003 5:21 pm

I think themadscientist had the best answer to this.

Although I don't remember that line in the show. I wonder who subbed the copy he saw. Maybe it's an inaccurate translation too.

Post by **SpeeDDrifT** » Sun Jan 05, 2003 5:21 pm

k-car the whole scooby doo thing......funny.

but i agree with ezcheese. describing initial d as a mere cartoon.....well i guess you have not seen it.

as for the engine....it does exsist and it is limited and damn expensive. they refer to it in initial d as the Group A motor. it readlines at 11,000 rpm and produces i believe 170hp.....it's in drift king keichi's trueno.....and the tall dude (in the option videos) levin....(i think the levin has 210hp though) i don't know the exact stats but i will update when i talk to Kai he knows all about that motor.......

Post by **s0ldats** » Sun Jan 05, 2003 5:21 pm

yea...i was in japan when i saw the series...and the people who did the subtitles probably didn't know ...so they tried to make it sound technical.

again, the engine that is swapped in is a Toyota FA 4age, which is quite expensive and relatively hard to get (obtainable nonetheless)

Post by **s0ldats** » Sun Jan 05, 2003 5:21 pm

SpeeDDrifT wrote:k-car the whole scooby doo thing......funny.

but i agree with ezcheese. describing initial d as a mere cartoon.....well i guess you have not seen it.

as for the engine....it does exsist and it is limited and damn expensive. they refer to it in initial d as the Group A motor. it readlines at 11,000 rpm and produces i believe 170hp.....it's in drift king keichi's trueno.....and the tall dude (in the option videos) levin....(i think the levin has 210hp though) i don't know the exact stats but i will update when i talk to Kai he knows all about that motor.......

i'm not too sure that it's in the tall dude's car. i believe he has either a 3sgte or turbo 20v, but not FA. if you can find out for sure, let me know.

edit: damn i need to learn how to type

Post by **SpeeDDrifT** » Sun Jan 05, 2003 5:21 pm

by the way the only thing in Initial D that the Levin guy says (about anything turbo) "you must think a poor turbo-tuned car isn't good enough for you!"

the group A 4ag motor is based on the ae111 20 valve motor with the VVTI removed.....it was built specifically for race circuits. it is NOT turbo it is a naturally aspirated motor.

so here's the thing the engine does exsist (the one talked about in initial d) however it is not turbo (so the one HE is talking about doesn't exsist) and he would never be able to get one. even if he had the connections.....i doubt he would have the money.

i will update on the specifics on that motor when i talk to Kai (Ae86 expert)

Post by **The Mic** » Sun Jan 05, 2003 5:21 pm

themadscientist wrote:I think "turbo injection" just means a turbo fuel injected engine. Some old Zs run boost through sealed caburetors and are commonly called "carb turbo", I think this is just pointing out that instead of going "carb turbo" the character (hachiroku guy right?) was retaining the fuel injection with a turbo and going "turbo injection". Back when this cartoon was new such endeavors were noteworthy as there were no user freindly piggyback computers or engine management systems under $3000.00.Your neighbor is an idiot as you rightfully suspected, egg his car after you get back the torque wrench he borrowed from you, he doesn't know how to use it anyway.

Is there such an engine for the 240sx that has the same function of retaining the fuel injection and going "turbo injection"???

BTW : O and im sure the levin guy had a turbo going and not the same engine as the trueno

YouTube · Post by **EZcheese15** » Sun Jan 05, 2003 5:21 pm

S13GUY wrote:Is there such an engine for the 240sx that has the same function of retaining the fuel injection and going "turbo injection"???

BTW : O and im sure the levin guy had a turbo going and not the same engine as the trueno

Well, all 240sx's are fuel injected (unless you have modified it to use carbs), so technically, if you turbo a KA, you have gone "turbo injection."

Post by **The Mic** » Sun Jan 05, 2003 5:21 pm

I dont understand though. How did the 86 go turbo injection but kept being NA???

YouTube · Post by **EZcheese15** » Sun Jan 05, 2003 5:21 pm

S13GUY wrote:I dont understand though. How did the 86 go turbo injection but kept being NA???

Oh yeah, I forgot it was NA. Uh.....just goes back to the point it was a bad sub

Post by **Megaseth** » Sun Jan 05, 2003 5:21 pm

I guess its time for me to step in and say what i know, seeing as how i watched 90% of the series. Takumi drives the panda Trueno, in the movie, he swapped his motor in his Trueno cause he blew it up in the race against the EVO 4 from the MONSTER team. he swapped it with a group B racing engine, the one mentioned. It redlined at 10,000rpms in the movie and made 210hp. the Takahashi brothers make a big fuss cause it was a rare engine and it sounded different, the older brother was a ****ing genius with cars and could tell how much HP you had by your exhaust. In 2nd Stage, there was another AE86, a Levin, red i believe. this one WAS turbo'd. so by turbo injection they could have meant that he just had a turbo on his 4AGE engine.

YouTube · Post by **EZcheese15** » Sun Jan 05, 2003 5:21 pm

Megaseth wrote:I guess its time for me to step in and say what i know, seeing as how i watched 90% of the series. Takumi drives the panda Trueno, in the movie, he swapped his motor in his Trueno cause he blew it up in the race against the EVO 4 from the MONSTER team. he swapped it with a group B racing engine, the one mentioned. It redlined at 10,000rpms in the movie and made 210hp. the Takahashi brothers make a big fuss cause it was a rare engine and it sounded different, the older brother was a ****ing genius with cars and could tell how much HP you had by your exhaust. In 2nd Stage, there was another AE86, a Levin, red i believe. this one WAS turbo'd. so by turbo injection they could have meant that he just had a turbo on his 4AGE engine.

Yeah, except the dude said they were referring to the episode when the dude in the Levin saw that Takumi had a motor swap. That is the *only* motor swap in the entire series. And *that* motor was NA. Oh, and also, it was an 11k redline, not 10k. Hehe....I'm an Initial D nut too if you can't tell.

Post by **Megaseth** » Sun Jan 05, 2003 5:21 pm

hehe, we have a small but devoted following at our school. i'd hate to let any of the ricers find out about it, oh wait, if they did, maybe they'd try it and go kill themselves...no, mustn't think those bad thoughts, thats why i got those drugs from the doctor that make me happy.

Post by **driftaholic** » Sun Jan 05, 2003 5:21 pm

the turbo levin was panda-colored too

Post by **The Mic** » Sun Jan 05, 2003 5:21 pm

and the MONSTER team is actually Team Emperor. I think speed drift has correct info

Post by **Megaseth** » Sun Jan 05, 2003 5:21 pm

Who drove the Red Levin? It was a girl right? Im thinking it was that girl who Ikitani liked, not Mogi's friend, but that one guys sister. And it was Team Emporer, i dont know why i thought MONSTER. The race in the movie between Takumi and the EVO 4 was a great race.

Post by **The Mic** » Sun Jan 05, 2003 5:21 pm

i dont think there ever was a red levin. The girl rode with her brother in his levin turbo 86. And it was the LanEvo III who raced the 86 in the movie i think. And you prob got Monstor from the logo team Emperor places on their hoods.

Post by **AznRide** » Sun Jan 05, 2003 5:21 pm

The Trueno is NA, and the Levin has an old turbo that bolts on a stock AE86 motor. Your next door neighbor needs to watch it again, since Takumi never had a Turbo Engine, but his dad DID get the swap, but still, it's NOT a Turbo. Go kick him in the face now.

Post by **The Mic** » Sun Jan 05, 2003 5:21 pm

so there never was a turbo injection sytem on the 86 trueno right, its just a case of bad subbing right??

YouTube · Post by **EZcheese15** » Sun Jan 05, 2003 5:21 pm

S13GUY wrote:so there never was a turbo injection sytem on the 86 trueno right, its just a case of bad subbing right??

Well there was that one guy who had one...but it was aftermarket turbo. Or was that the ae85?

Post by **Megaseth** » Sun Jan 05, 2003 5:21 pm

Takumi-panda-color AE86 TruenoItsuki-panda-color AE85 LevinWataru Akiyama-AE86 Levin(aftermarket turbo)Kyouichi Sudou-Lancer EVO III(beats Takumi the first time when Takumi blows his engine)

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Inittial D engine i never heard of

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