Inittial D engine i never heard of

[SpeeDDrifT]

WOW this has turned into mass confusion!

takumi= panda AE86 trueno.....gets GROUP A motor swap

the levin was a AE86 was also a panda and it had a bolt-on turbo.

itsuki= panda AE85

there was no red car except the civic from night kids (shingo)

the car itkatani likes drives a blue sileighty.

the lan-evo group was called emporer.

the motor swap was NA it was NOT turbo. (must be screwed up subtitles) in my series the subtitles are correct. maybe your friend has the screwed up english version where there names are Joe and John....hahahh.

the GROUP A motor (racing motor based on the blacktop AE111 20v motor was produced specifically for the FORMULA ATLANTIC racing circuit) was made by SUZUKI and TRD (i believe, not totally sure but i was made by more than one company) is not obtainable by your "joe somebody" ......not sure on the specific number but only about 20 were made. i believe the price of the engine.......IF you could purchase it would be around $15-$20k. to give you and idea the formula atlantic crank for the 16v 4AGE is $5000 by itself. the motor reved to 10k rpm (maybe 11) and produced 209 hp ........naturally aspirated.

i hope this clears everything up.

and this is an example of how INITIAL D is not JUST a simple Cartoon.

[Megaseth]

HAHAHa, well put. its not a cartoon for the average ricer.

[SpeeDDrifT]

no doubt......the hardest part about watching initial d is trying to stay and watch, cause it make you wanna drive.

anyways i hope that the above explanation in my last post answers you questions for S13guy and everyone else that was a little uncertain.

[The Mic]

ty very much guys. I really want to go NA so im thinking of having an NA setup on my ka24de. Id like to hear some opinion n weather this is a good/bad decision instead of going sr20. In my area (CA) the cops are *****es and if they see an engine that looks a bit funny, they call up the CARB boys, and smogging my car is a big hassle too. My friends say that building up my ka for NA is a stupid idea. But they all think im gonna drag, im planning to road race actually. So can i get some feedback from you guys on this topic ty very much and to you too speed drift!!

[EZcheese15]

ty very much guys. I really want to go NA so im thinking of having an NA setup on my ka24de. Id like to hear some opinion n weather this is a good/bad decision instead of going sr20. In my area (CA) the cops are *****es and if they see an engine that looks a bit funny, they call up the CARB boys, and smogging my car is a big hassle too. My friends say that building up my ka for NA is a stupid idea. But they all think im gonna drag, im planning to road race actually. So can i get some feedback from you guys on this topic ty very much and to you too speed drift!!

If you plan on road racing, NA is the way to go. You don't have to worry about turbo lag at all, which is a major player in road racing, especially when exiting turns. Also, a NA engine is going to be a lot easier to pass as CARB legal, because it's all internally modified. Externally the most you are going to have is I/H/E, which you can get CARB certified. The other stuff (fuel, electronics), for the most part you can hide very easily.

[Megaseth]

The KA isnt going to be all that good N/A, maybe go with a SR20DE motor and build it up. It will rev a little higher and be safer at higher RPMS, and it doesnt look all that different from a KA on the top., i.e. the valve covers ar close to being the same.

[The Mic]

would thr sr20de have trouble passing smog?

[EZcheese15]

would thr sr20de have trouble passing smog?

You probably will have the same difficulties as the SR20DET. You will have to get an imported SR20DE since it was never sold in the U.S. in a RWD configuration. You could probably get it to pass smog if you have your emissions stuff all hooked up, but probably won't pass visual because it's a motor swap.

[EyeStabPeople]

I guess its time for me to step in and say what i know, seeing as how i watched 90% of the series. Takumi drives the panda Trueno, in the movie, he swapped his motor in his Trueno cause he blew it up in the race against the EVO 4 from the MONSTER team. he swapped it with a group B racing engine, the one mentioned. It redlined at 10,000rpms in the movie and made 210hp. the Takahashi brothers make a big fuss cause it was a rare engine and it sounded different, the older brother was a ****ing genius with cars and could tell how much HP you had by your exhaust. In 2nd Stage, there was another AE86, a Levin, red i believe. this one WAS turbo'd. so by turbo injection they could have meant that he just had a turbo on his 4AGE engine.

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blew it up racing the Evo 3 from the emperors, swapped it with a broup A and it made max power at 11 grand, which was 245 hp, the levin was white, guys name was wateru, and it was a turbo, and it was bad subbing

[Megaseth]

I hate to be an @$$, but we already posted that about 4 posts up.

[Megaseth]

Oh, and Ikitani drove the green and sliverish silvia with a CA18. the blue sil-eighty was driven by Impact Blue, Mako & syuki

[themadscientist]

Everyone seems to have glossed over the fact that olboy's neighbor tunes his car from a freakin cartoon! I rely on Transformers for my mechanical inspiration. So if I lose a race, I transform into Boostius Prime and stomp the other car to peices and shoot the passengers with my laser gun! sheesh.

[S-14boy]

Thats cool madscientist, how long does it take u to transform I always had trouble figurin them out. JK Hey, Megaseth, there was a red Levin in first stage, its in Itsuki's lil day dream thing where he says him and takumi will be the legendary racer of Mt Akina or something like that.

[themadscientist]

In really bad situations My Silvia, combined with my wife's 180SX, my freind's cars; the Cefiro, Skyline, and WRX Scooby forms the Super Transformer the Boostinator. We only combine to destroy tuning shops that juice their customers.

[Megaseth]

I knew there was a red 86. thanks s14-boy. transformers, now thats old skewl! I saw these 4 civics join to form Buttbuddytron, but the power of my one 240sx destroyed them.

[SpeeDDrifT]

very observant s-14 boy......i totally forgot about the red levin in itsuki's daydream.

s13guy NA is the way to go for road racing. no turbo lag but more importantly a smoother (even) acceleration. however i prefer turbo.....it's also a matter of your driving style.

ps S13GUY and S14-Boy.......related??? J/K

[driftaholic]

i can get stage 4 and maybe stage 5 for $60 each....should i?

[The Mic]

no no relation

[SpeeDDrifT]

i didn't know there was a stage 5 yet.......by the way have any of you seen Extra Stage....that one's probably my favorite.....it's the side story about usui's sileighty(mako) ......takumi isn't even in that one really.

[kimchixboi]

anyone ever heard of a turbo injection system bc i havent. This ricer next door comes to my driveway while spray painting my new bumper and starts talking about his civic. I pretend im paying attention while i spray paint my bumper and all of a sudden he says " And instead of going turbo im gonna get that engine from inital d" im like " what engine" he says " u know dat engine from 2nd stage where he get a new engine, that turbo injection system" im like wtf is this guy talking about? So we bet 5 bucks to see if it exists. I asked daunt but he doesnt seem to know about this system either. Can yuo guys help me out?

hmmmmm...... i think that guy was talking about the misfiring system in the lan evo III cuz no matter how cracked out any honda owner is, no one would think that the ae86 was turbo

[kingsoup]

scientist have you watched Initial D before? Its suprisingly good, technically accurate and with excellent story. All the interiors are accurate, all the exhaust sounds are from the actual cars, its all pretty good!

When they translated some things from Japanese too English it gets lost. They talk about the SW20 (MR2) having twin-turbo, I believe they say the same about the Evo. Of course what they mean is Twin-entry turbo, which gives low rpm spool up.

The misfiring system that the Evo3 has is a system stolen from Rally cars I believe. A deverting of exhaust gases during shifts too keep the turbo constantly spooled, keeping the wastegate open or something on lift, so it must run rich on shifts hence the backfiring.

I don't know a lot on how the system works, anyone know how the system operates?

[Phongie]

The ecu is programed (when the system is turned on, there is usually a switch) to richen the mixture and retard the timing when the throttle is closed, some of the rich mixture travels into the exhaust manifold and is ignited by the late firing of the spark plug (retarded timing) so "dirty" combustion takes place in the cylinder and travels into the exhaust, hense the popping and backfiring

This causes damage to the turbo and destroy your exhaust, and i think the engine is AE-101 not 111 but I may be wrong.

[themadscientist]

I have watched some of them, when a hachiroku schooled a GT-R I turned it off and returned it to the video store, fun fiction. I like cartoons,(heh heh car-toons) but that is all it is. When I hear guys debating tuning strategies from Initial D or Gran Tourismo I have to chuckle. I'm not trying to hate it's just a little silly, like avoiding all Acme products because they keep screwing up when Wylie Coyote tries to use them.Some Japanese guy once asked me if I read the books or watched the videos, I said "no". He said "oh you are not hashiriya then"(hot rodder, true car guy). I popped the hood of my car and asked him if he learned anything in the cartoon that could beat that, pointing at my engine, he couldn't. So it's a fun cartoon but really, lets get over it already, G-force was better.

[TrueSlide]

Um, watching the movie, where it mentions the engines name/type it says its a TRD Group A AE-101. Any of you ppl in japan know if that is a real engine? From the pictures they show of it after/during the movie, it still looks like the 4age engine. They go on to mention it was specially built, 11k RPM, 241 NA HP.

Dont know if its a "real" engine

[TrueSlide]

mad, I have a video of 2 hachis schoolin a GT-R, a real video, no cartoon, its pretty sweet. The guy in the GT-R isnt a good driver though.

[Phongie]

yes it is a real engine and it really produces somewhere along the lines of 223 hp

[JustinStrife]

I have Stages 1-3, Extra Stage, as well as the Battle Stage. I will also be buying all of them when they come out dubbed(I'm an anime freak what can I say)

Initial D really turned me on to import cars, and forced induction. Because of that anime I've completely turned my opinion 180 from going domestic to going import. My project now is a Sil-Eighty conversion but with the RB25DET engine swap.

Bash the anime all you want, but it's sure entertaining as hell especially with the techno music they play during the races!

Just my $.02

[Phongie]

I have Stages 1-3, Extra Stage, as well as the Battle Stage. I will also be buying all of them when they come out dubbed(I'm an anime freak what can I say)

Initial D really turned me on to import cars, and forced induction. Because of that anime I've completely turned my opinion 180 from going domestic to going import. My project now is a Sil-Eighty conversion but with the RB25DET engine swap.

Bash the anime all you want, but it's sure entertaining as hell especially with the techno music they play during the races!

Just my $.02

I think the Extra Stage is the battle stage, so how do you have 5 different stages? first stage is 26 episodes, 2nd stage is 13 episodes, 3rd stage is the movie. what is the extra stage if its not the battle stage? theres the Manga thats it, after 3rd stage everythign is in manga, it takes place after Takumi joined the Kengai racing team they call themselfs "Project D". the 4Th stage will be out soon though, in japan they just released a promotion. well latez

[themadscientist]

not bashing Anime just saying people are making Trekkies look grounded and aloof with this initial D obsession.:pface

[TrueSlide]

extra stage focuses on impact blue(the SIL80 chicks) and the Emperors(LanEvo team) race at usui. Its a 2 part episode. 1st part is the race, the 2nd part is a ski trip with the girls.:naughty

Battle Stage just runs through all takumis battles and highlights them and even a couple of battles that were not on the stages.