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Hey thx alot guys. like some of you sugested ill be putting and intake, Exhaust, and header on firstly. but i was planning on putting in a different engine. but i know that is a touchy place with 240SX because there is alot of debate over them. can you guys give me some of the details on the different engines, i know that there are like 3 basic engines people put in. The SR20DET, KA-T?, and the RB's right? What are the differences? and if i where to put one of these in would i have to put different headers and exhaust on compared to if i put it on the stock engine? also i have a guy that i talked to a little down the street from me and he has 1992 240SX coupe with an RB20DET but he might be upgradeing to an RB25DET and he would sell me his RB20DET for a good price. Would i want to do that or not. Also my dad is able to help me with stuff and he some what knows his way around a car and we have all kinds of tools because he is in construction so i think we could fair all right with some stuff with some instruction. anyways thanks for the help so far guys. and are there any specific intakes, headers, or exhaust that you guys like or is it prtty much anything will do the job?


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nismoslider413 wrote:Hey wuts up iam new to this site but not the 240sx the only question I have is I just got into driftting and I was wonderin how to weild the defferential so iam not sliding wit a open defferential?
hey wassup n00b. Its pretty easy if you know how to weld or know somebody that does. Take off the pumpkin, open it up, weld the spider gears, fill it back up with diff fluid, and you're good to go.
xSlaterx wrote:Hey thx alot guys. like some of you sugested ill be putting and intake, Exhaust, and header on firstly. but i was planning on putting in a different engine. but i know that is a touchy place with 240SX because there is alot of debate over them. can you guys give me some of the details on the different engines, i know that there are like 3 basic engines people put in. The SR20DET, KA-T?, and the RB's right? What are the differences? and if i where to put one of these in would i have to put different headers and exhaust on compared to if i put it on the stock engine? also i have a guy that i talked to a little down the street from me and he has 1992 240SX coupe with an RB20DET but he might be upgradeing to an RB25DET and he would sell me his RB20DET for a good price. Would i want to do that or not. Also my dad is able to help me with stuff and he some what knows his way around a car and we have all kinds of tools because he is in construction so i think we could fair all right with some stuff with some instruction. anyways thanks for the help so far guys. and are there any specific intakes, headers, or exhaust that you guys like or is it prtty much anything will do the job?
headers refers to a naturally aspirated engine, its basically the piping that comes off the hot side of the engine and dumps the exhaust flames down piping and out the muffler.

turbo cars on the other hand dont have headers, they have exhaust manifolds where instead of the exhaust fumes coming straight through to the muffler, they instead go through to the turbine first.

http://auto.howstuffworks.com/turbo.htm <-- some decent reading

sr20det is an inline 4 single turbo. rb20det is an inline 6 cylinder single turbo that puts out about the same power, if not a bit more to the wheels. ka-t is your engine, just with a turbo added.

the con about ka-t's is ka are usually high miled, when adding boost, its highly recommended to rebuild. But these torquey engines have a very high potential. If your going with an aftermarket turbo with like a t3 or something, 300rwhp easily can be expected (of course with supporting mods). Also, ka's are dirt cheap. Since everyones hopping on the motorswap bandwagon, you can find really decent ka24de's on the forums for like $300 if not cheaper. so if your engine does blow or throw a rod or something, just toss in a new block, and your good.

rb20s aren't that bad either, they just lack the aftermarket and oem support stateside. If your motor blows or you need certain parts, don't expect to go to your local nissan dealership, ask for a part, and have it at your home on the same day. I dont recall any US cars that have the RB or at least share similar exchangeable parts. Also, iirc, its not a direct swap, you'll need to change the cross member and have custom mounts or something like that.

sr20's is another easy way to get yourself a turbo without having to rebuild or anything. Just make sure you take the head off the engine and carefully inspect it before using it. All that "all JDM engines have only 60,000 miles on it" is bullsh1t. The good thing about it is: its a direct swap (they came in your car's Japanese brother). The only modification you'll need to do is drill a hole near your intake for the side mount intercooler. Everything else just sits perfect. Also, theres HUGE aftermarket support, and internal parts are easy to find because the engine was on US cars (b13 sentra se-r came with a fwd n/a version of the SR20).

just remember theres no such thing as "one is better than the other" because I've met all sorts of people that swear by these engines.

as far as upgrades go... just get the engine you want first, try it out, then we'll talk about upgrades . but just an FYI, your headers are worthless in a turbo car.

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HI i'm new here, I was wondering if anyone has pictures of a 89-94 180sx/240sx with Work Emotion Kai's on it..

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JDM-Silvia wrote:HI i'm new here, I was wondering if anyone has pictures of a 89-94 180sx/240sx with Work Emotion Kai's on it..
this is my buddy Jack's car... sorry, its the only pic i found

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Thanks, Do you know if that is the Origin Stylish Kit?

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JDM-Silvia wrote:Thanks, Do you know if that is the Origin Stylish Kit?
with wider fenders

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heys guys i just did my front brakes yesterday and also my one drivers side rear calaber if thats how you spell it. but should i look out for anything else with my brakes? i have a full pedal feel right now. and it seems good. its jus sitting while i work on it not driving her yet

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Can't really f*** up brakes. Make sure you put the calipers back on LOL.

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S13silvia65 wrote: calaber
caliper.

Grease up the rears of the pads and check rotors to see if theres any uneven groves.

and did you say you only did one rear brake? what did you do? pad change? if your gonna change pads, do both, not just one.

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adrians_s13 Thanks alot man all of what you just said cleared up alot of confusion and got me thinking. you know i really want to go far with this car and not just be some poser out there because i know that there are enough of them without me. and the instead of just telling me stuff you did me a favor and had me read that website so that i could expande my own knowledge. but after what you said i was thinking about going with a SR20det turboed. and possibly in a couple years after i know my way around my car try putting in an RB25det. do you think that would be a wise decision? i am kind of at a loss at what to do first. and also what is it that gives a car its best speed? is it the max hp or the torque? because like alot of people i just want to go fast . anyways thanks alot man and look forward to your continued help if you wouldn't mind.

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Horsepower is a mathematical derivative of torque, so they are pretty similar. There are pretty much 3 types of top speed: Governor Limited (electronically), RPM limited (you run out of gear), and Drag Limited (true top speed, reached when the force of the air on your car equals the force of your motor at your wheels). Assuming you know how to get around your electronic limited, your car will probably be RPM limited. Here is a top speed calculator based on RPM top speed limitations:http://enormouslysideways.net/calc.html

As far as engines go, do whatever you want, just make sure you have the means of getting your car inspected before you dive into a project like this.

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to xSlaterx, dude, my suggestion, if your current motor is fine and doesnt have any problems, leave it as it is.

I mean, you can take sh1t apart and put it back together and learn about what you have. forced induction's only a step of knowlegde away. but you gotta realize, the engine only makes up about 50% of fun from your car.

for now, I'd say work on your suspension and read up on your car's suspension geometry. I've always been a fan of great suspension and taking hard turns and what not.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MacPherson_strut <-- some more good stuff (although nico staff doesnt like wiki )

seriously, get some coilovers, low offset wheels, grippy tires, aftermarket inner and outer tie rods, engery bushings, thicker sway bars, and have some fun gripping the tracks. I've seen corvettes lose to mini coopers in autox... and I can tell you it wasn't the horsepower that won.

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Quick question about AC parts. Are s13 and s14 ac parts interchangable? If not I can assume all s13 AC parts are? Thanks.

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PapaSmurf2k3 and adrians_s13 once again thanks for your help. I see that im really getting ahead of myself here so i am going to take your advice and go with my suspention and then tires and wheels. so what should i look for in a suspention. what are you using? But i was also wondering about exhaust because i saw this new exhaust on the forum the BRM and most people seemed to like it. and what is the difference between a dual tip exhaust and larger single tip? once again thanks for your guyses help

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Gold240hatch wrote:Quick question about AC parts. Are s13 and s14 ac parts interchangable? If not I can assume all s13 AC parts are? Thanks.
I wouldnt know... during my swap, I deciding not to have a/c, lol.my guess is yes though, there arent much differences between s13 and s14 kade's... I could be wrong tho. =/
xSlaterx wrote:PapaSmurf2k3 and adrians_s13 once again thanks for your help. I see that im really getting ahead of myself here so i am going to take your advice and go with my suspention and then tires and wheels. so what should i look for in a suspention. what are you using?
I have the hks hypermax II coilovers, and I love them to death. I will always suggest getting coilovers, but just beware of certain ones, not all are great. Reading reviews really helps.

But if you dont wanna spend that much money on coilovers, you can always go the spring and strut route. As far as springs go, I dont have a real suggestion. But as far as struts go, papasmurf has the kyb agx's and seems to love them. When I had a spring and strut combo, I had the tokico struts (the blue ones), and they frekkin blew. yeah... so if I were you, I wouldnt do the tokico route.
xSlaterx wrote: But i was also wondering about exhaust because i saw this new exhaust on the forum the BRM and most people seemed to like it. and what is the difference between a dual tip exhaust and larger single tip? once again thanks for your guyses help
difference is just the style and preference. Theres no performance difference. The differences lay within the diameter of the piping. If your non-turbo, 2.5" piping is ideal. For turbo applications, 3" piping is recommended.

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xSlaterx wrote: what are you using? But i was also wondering about exhaust because i saw this new exhaust on the forum the BRM and most people seemed to like it. and what is the difference between a dual tip exhaust and larger single tip? once again thanks for your guyses help
I am using KYB AGX and Eibach Pro-kit. If I were you I would just get coilovers, the adjustability is worth the money over struts/springs. I'd like to have my front end juuust a little bit lower.

BRM Exhaust is probably one of the best exhausts for the money, short of doing it yourself. Adrian already answered the tip question. It seems like you are on the right path. Oh, and about exhaust size. Some people say 2.5" is better, some people say 3" is better for the KA. Be advised, 3" will be louder, but if you ever plan to do any forced induction in the future, you should just get 3" off the bat.

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Thanks Adrian.

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thanks guys for the help. yea i did say it had one brake pad on when i changed it and put 2 on. and tomorrow after work i am changing the other rear brake. then all i need to drive it is ties and have my front suspension done. to much to do so little money. oh well i get to fix it to my liking

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hey guys i gotta get ride of my 240 s13 1990 3in catback apexi n1 b&m short shifter Tein lowering springs needs engine blew the sohc want to fix bad but cant find ka24de 4 decent price

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Tom’s red s13 240sx wrote:hey guys i gotta get ride of my 240 s13 1990 3in catback apexi n1 b&m short shifter Tein lowering springs needs engine blew the sohc want to fix bad but cant find ka24de 4 decent price
ok... slow down. what? next time try using some punctuation... I'm not tryin to be your English teacher here, but it would help everyone else understand what the heck you're tryin to say. cuz I dont understand the "i gotta get ride of my..." part. maybe you meant to say "i gotta get rid"? if so, try classifieds cars for sale.

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adrians_s13 Nice breakdown.

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yeah, we have been getting a lot of that lately. It is quite annoying. Not just in this thread either.

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Quick Question for everybody. When running Twin Turbos, are two boost gauges needed?

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Zee wrote:Quick Question for everybody. When running Twin Turbos, are two boost gauges needed?
LOL... no. It reads overall boost pressure.
PapaSmurf2k3 wrote:yeah, we have been getting a lot of that lately. It is quite annoying. Not just in this thread either.
haha... its even worse when they type in caps...

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Thanks Adrian.

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Don't know anything

completely stock 93 240 with 90,000 miles for 5 grand? how does it sound?

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shiftydunk wrote:Don't know anything

completely stock 93 240 with 90,000 miles for 5 grand? how does it sound?
Sounds awful. Keep looking.

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Hahahaha that's pretty much the sum of it.

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shiftydunk wrote:Don't know anything

completely stock 93 240 with 90,000 miles for 5 grand? how does it sound?
how about you offer him $2000 then slap him across the face for such a rediculous price.

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Okay random question...WTF is a crank walk?

I hear it all the time...


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