I'm New Here And I have A Simple Question Thread, (No Flaming Allowed)

[AnimalCracker]

As much as it sucks to hear it, I am not surprised. I get that same kind of talk every day from my family. If a 240SX is looking to be out of the question, check about getting a Subaru Impreza WRX. They're pretty fun to drive.

Actually, the WRX was a highschool favorite that kinda died down. It was one of my first searches for a car, and there really arent any offerings in my area.

Subaru, as I hear, is much more popular in the north than down here. I rarely see WRXs on the road.

Im actually looking at Jettas now, but Im still pushing for a 240sx. I havent told my dad that this is the car I must have because I really dont feel like stepping on his toes.

I know what he's like though, he gets something in his mind and its set. But, on the bright side, I emailed that guy early on yesterday and I still havent gotten a response about seeing his car to make an offer. Hell, maybe if I can get my dad to just LOOK at it, I might sell him, hehe.

[redtop91]

My dad hated my 240 until he drove it at 17 PSI In all honestly an Impreza WRX should be ruled out if insurance is an issue. Any factory turbo car is going to be hell to insure to anyone under 25.

[hbpignosePA]

yea buying the car urself gives u so much more pride, (in my opinion)... im not hating on parents that have money, but if ur parents buy u a car dont complain what u get...

u could talk about ur dad about the negatives of a new car.... depreciation.... u cant get crap when they get 14 years old too.......



but seriously if u want something older, u got to put more time, money and love into maintaining it.... buy something newer and u can watch ur investment shrink..... either way u look at it, u lose.... so u might as well find something u really like.

[Kouki Kid]

Well I graduated, and I'm going to start school for paramedics. And being a typically filipino *not being rascist* I want a 240sx. Preferable a s13 with silvia conversion, and sr20det, or a kouki s14 with sr20det. But I'm kinda falling into an endless pit, and not finding an kouki s14's with sr20det's for under $10k but I have found a lovely s13 with silvia conversion, and an sr20de, not sure if its turbo'd or not but I'll call later in the week. The interior, and body looks perfect in the pictures, and the owner is asking $9,500. Yes, its pricey but I'm from So*Cal. Everything is expensive here. But forget about my pointless intro.

So now to "serious" business I'm curious to know what are the pros and cons of both the s13 with silvia front, and sr20det, and a kouki s14 with sr20det? I've tried searching with not results, and did the mistake of making a thread resulting in flames, and then being locked. Also I plan on putting in sparco racing seats, but not until later in the year. But I'm curious if there's anyway in removing the automatic seatbelts to manual ones?

Plus I've have never driven a manual transmission, so I plan on learning in the 240 I buy? Is that a bad choice or no? I have driven before but just automatic trucks, and suvs. I'm not planning on racing as soon as I get. Just to give me some time to get use to the feel first. So my budget is pretty much around $9,500 for the car with the sr20det. And I want to go local, not out of state. Help me please!!!

Any help?

[adrianfromthecastle]

Any help?

I would just buy a stock 240 and do all the work myself... but that's just me =/

btw, I'm filipino, I don't like the silvia front that much besides, theres more 86 corolla owners that are filipino as opposed to s chassis, lol

[hbpignosePA]

haha as adrian says.... buy it stock, do it yourself... u will love it more...

the body styles are all a matter of preference..... the motors, pretty much the same, theres no point to argue which is the "best"

[adrianfromthecastle]

So now to "serious" business I'm curious to know what are the pros and cons of both the s13 with silvia front, and sr20det, and a kouki s14 with sr20det? I've tried searching with not results, and did the mistake of making a thread resulting in flames, and then being locked. Also I plan on putting in sparco racing seats, but not until later in the year.

s13 w/ sr20pro: cheaper, has turbocon: prone to rusts14pro: not as much rust as s13's, has turbocon: cost more

But I'm curious if there's anyway in removing the automatic seatbelts to manual ones?

yes.

[qat727]

Plus I've have never driven a manual transmission, so I plan on learning in the 240 I buy? Is that a bad choice or no? I have driven before but just automatic trucks, and suvs. I'm not planning on racing as soon as I get. Just to give me some time to get use to the feel first.

A stock S13 has one of the softest clutches and smoothest shifts of any of the cars I've driven. That said, if you want to learn to drive a stick, it's not hard to do. However, if you move on to other MT cars from a 240SX, they might not be as easy to drive. The plan to not race it is definitely good, especially if you've never driven a manual before.

The suggestion to buy a stock 240SX is a good one. I'd suggest getting a stock MT S13 (cheaper and more common than S14), learning to drive it well, then modifying it as you see fit.

[AnimalCracker]

yea buying the car urself gives u so much more pride, (in my opinion)... im not hating on parents that have money, but if ur parents buy u a car dont complain what u get...

u could talk about ur dad about the negatives of a new car.... depreciation.... u cant get crap when they get 14 years old too.......



but seriously if u want something older, u got to put more time, money and love into maintaining it.... buy something newer and u can watch ur investment shrink..... either way u look at it, u lose.... so u might as well find something u really like.

Id buy the car myself, but I dont have enough money to pay for all of my college expenses AND a car (much rather an education over a 240sx), and Id really just like my dad to be behind my purchase.

He's only paying for my insurance, its not technically his money, but its starting to seem like it is with each passing "hey look at this accord" email. Every dang one is some boring beige, putrid green, whatever boring colored accord with an automatic transmission and V4 engine. Sigh...

I really respect my father, and I understand that he wants a reliable car, but whatever, like you said, any car is gonna depreciate. Its not like Im dropping 6k on the initial purchase. I can grab it for around 2k and then put the rest into the car and still get a nice and lasting car...

Regardless, I still havent gotten an email from that guy about seeing the 240sx, so Im thinking its sold. I hope thats the case, so at least Ill know that I could never get it even if my dad was behind it.

Thanks for all the help and opinions guys.

[qat727]

Just a thought... I know you want a 240SX, but if having your dad's support is important, why not go ahead and pick up an Accord? I mean, you can get a newer Accord coupe with a manual and have a pretty nice looking car. No, it's not as stylish as a 240SX, but Hondas are pretty good about holding value, and you can always sell it after college.

I'm not really trying to steer you away from a Nissan, but I'd suggest that you evaluate cars outside of the S13. There are plenty of cars out there that are fun to drive.

[Kouki Kid]

Very true. I would love to find a stock S13 for a relatively cheap price. But in So*Cal that isn't something to really look forward to. Because I'm only finding S13's with silvia conversions, and sr20det's for around $9,500. If I would could find one I would honestly grab it, learn in it, and then swap the engine. It just isn't in the cards for me right now...

So learning manual in the S13 shouldn't be oh so hard for me? Because as you stated the clutch is rather soft, and also smooth. Is that why in drifting videos, or also in racing videos that S13 doesn't really "shake" or "move" when shifting up or down in gears? Because in my friends 95 accord, it seems to "shake" a bit when he shifts gears? I'm just curious since I was watching a inside cabin video of Pac Rim Drift's S13 was running the drift track, and it didn't even seem to budge when shifting through gears?

Kinda random, but down the line of owning the vehicle. I want to add Sparco racing seats, Charge Speed Widebody, *hood, grill, front/rear fenders, skirts, front/rear bumper, and MAYBE a spoiler.* and wider based wheels, and tires.

[ConfusedKorean]

yo, what's up people? just registered today. im on zilvia.net (don't post much there really) and im also on 240atlanta (known as Repost there). I drive a S14 Zenki Base converted to 5speed and it also has a SR20DET. Looking forward to learning more...

[adrianfromthecastle]

Very true. I would love to find a stock S13 for a relatively cheap price. But in So*Cal that isn't something to really look forward to. Because I'm only finding S13's with silvia conversions, and sr20det's for around $9,500. If I would could find one I would honestly grab it, learn in it, and then swap the engine. It just isn't in the cards for me right now...

I live in SoCal, I still find 240s for cheap that are under 3,000. You just need to search harder (i.e. craigslist, cars.com, classifieds on news paper)

So learning manual in the S13 shouldn't be oh so hard for me? Because as you stated the clutch is rather soft, and also smooth. Is that why in drifting videos, or also in racing videos that S13 doesn't really "shake" or "move" when shifting up or down in gears? Because in my friends 95 accord, it seems to "shake" a bit when he shifts gears? I'm just curious since I was watching a inside cabin video of Pac Rim Drift's S13 was running the drift track, and it didn't even seem to budge when shifting through gears?

as far as the clutch being soft, it really depends on the clutch. oem nissan clutches are pretty soft, I have an aftermarket oem replacement (exedy) and to me, it seems a bit stiffer than the oem clutches Ive seen. I guess its good to learn on a softer clutch, but when you get into it, you'll want a stiffer clutch that grabs the gears better.

as far as the shaking when shifting, it all depends on the health and condition of the trannys. Ive never really been in a 240 where it shakes when shifting (unless the driver was wack at shifting), but then again, Ive never been in a honda that shook when shifting either. I think your homie's accord has fvcked up synchros or something.

Kinda random, but down the line of owning the vehicle. I want to add Sparco racing seats, Charge Speed Widebody, *hood, grill, front/rear fenders, skirts, front/rear bumper, and MAYBE a spoiler.* and wider based wheels, and tires.

thats nice

[adrianfromthecastle]

yo, what's up people? just registered today. im on zilvia.net (don't post much there really) and im also on 240atlanta (known as Repost there). I drive a S14 Zenki Base converted to 5speed and it also has a SR20DET. Looking forward to learning more...

[ConfusedKorean]

ya rly

[adrianfromthecastle]

ya rly

cool

[Zee]

I not a newb, but I do have a quick question. Are short shifters dependent on the car or the transmission? Say for instance you put an LS1 into a 240sx? Do you get a 240sx short shifter or a LS1 short shifter?

[adrianfromthecastle]

I Are short shifters dependent on the car or the transmission? Say for instance you put an LS1 into a 240sx? Do you get a 240sx short shifter or a LS1 short shifter?

dependent on transmission

I not a newb

[Zee]

Thanks Adrian.

Or maybe I am the worst kind of newb. A newb that doesn't know he is a newb. lol
Modified by Zee at 6:22 PM 7/14/2007

[PapaSmurf2k3]

I not a newb, but I do have a quick question. Are short shifters dependent on the car or the transmission? Say for instance you put an LS1 into a 240sx? Do you get a 240sx short shifter or a LS1 short shifter?

You would get an LS1 short shifter. At that point you would be so into custom work that you would know about it though.

[Kouki Kid]

as far as the clutch being soft, it really depends on the clutch. oem nissan clutches are pretty soft, I have an aftermarket oem replacement (exedy) and to me, it seems a bit stiffer than the oem clutches Ive seen. I guess its good to learn on a softer clutch, but when you get into it, you'll want a stiffer clutch that grabs the gears better.

Yeah I was planning on getting an Exedy racing clutch after I got the manual ordeal down. How do the STG 2 Cerametallic Clutch Kit's work? Are they pretty smooth? Im not sure if thats the clutch you have? Just curious?

as far as the shaking when shifting, it all depends on the health and condition of the trannys. Ive never really been in a 240 where it shakes when shifting (unless the driver was wack at shifting), but then again, Ive never been in a honda that shook when shifting either. I think your homie's accord has fvcked up synchros or something.

Yeah I just spoke to him about that. And hes like, "Yeah, they are my synchros. Im just too lazy to get them fixed." But yeah, I just dont want my car to shake that much.

Yes rly

[justinlansdale]

My '91 needs a new driver's side fender. Would a '90 driver's side fender fit on my '91 with no modifications?

[redtop91]

No. The Pignose fenders are slightly different from Chuki.

[adrianfromthecastle]

My '91 needs a new driver's side fender. Would a '90 driver's side fender fit on my '91 with no modifications?

yes... they'll fit, but you'll need to drill one hole where it attaches to the bumper. It's not gonna be perfect, but its better than nothing.

[xSlaterx]

Hey guys im new around here i will be turning 16 on september 4 and i just bought a 1995 240SX but i am a straight up car newb and i am especialy newbish about street cars and such. but i really want to start learing about how to really unleash some performance out of my car. So i was hopeing some of you guys could point me in the right direction on how to go about "Supping" up my car. anything and everything is helpfull so please help anyway you can useing your experience. Thanks alot and look forward to talking to you guys

[Zee]

^^^

Your young and I don't know how much you have to spend but to start out just put an Intake and Exhaust on your car for now.

[xSlaterx]

Ya i dont have to much money but i am making about $1000 a month so im not sure how far that would take me. and are there anyspecific intakes or exhaust's that your recommend or maybe a favorit company. BTW thx for the quick RE.

[adrianfromthecastle]

Hey guys im new around here i will be turning 16 on september 4 and i just bought a 1995 240SX but i am a straight up car newb and i am especialy newbish about street cars and such. but i really want to start learing about how to really unleash some performance out of my car. So i was hopeing some of you guys could point me in the right direction on how to go about "Supping" up my car. anything and everything is helpfull so please help anyway you can useing your experience. Thanks alot and look forward to talking to you guys

You could just go intake/header/exhaust. Unfortunately, you'll probably make like 20 rwhp, LOL... I mean, at least you'll sound fast...

seriously though, if I were you, I'd just start working on suspension. Get some coilovers and some low offset nice looking wheels and be set. You won't be super fast on the straights, but at least you can take and handle turns and curves better than everyone.

In my honest opinion, I wouldnt touch the motor unless I was planning on putting a turbo in it.

[PapaSmurf2k3]

your first and most important task should be to bring the car back to as good of shape as possible. While you are doing this, you will be gaining some valuable mechanic experience, and also learning the car in its current performance state. You have to learn to walk before you can run.If you are itching to get good performance out of it, I suggest getting a nice set of tires. They add safety, and performance in every aspect (accel, handeling, braking).

[nismoslider413]

Hey wuts up iam new to this site but not the 240sx the only question I have is I just got into driftting and I was wonderin how to weild the defferential so iam not sliding wit a open defferential?