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can someone tell me the difference between the 200sx and the 240


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Are you talking about the US 200sx or the European 200sx?

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the u.s version and i would like to know if they are like the same car basicly or just different models and if they are fr

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they are FWD. Available in base, SE, and SE-R models. All coupes. Base and SE models came with a 1.6l 4-banger, available in 5 speed or automatic, and the SE-R came with a 2.0 liter, also available in 5 speed or auto.

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TheGift wrote:40
t3h simple answer ftw

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PapaSmurf2k3 wrote:they are FWD. Available in base, SE, and SE-R models. All coupes. Base and SE models came with a 1.6l 4-banger, available in 5 speed or automatic, and the SE-R came with a 2.0 liter, also available in 5 speed or auto.
unless he's talking about the S12, which is a different thing altogether.

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Zippy69 wrote:Are you really serious? Show me more than a handful of chevrolets, especially 4-bangers, that can go 200k+Take your iron dookie with 200k and slap a turbo on it running 12psi and see what happens.
Yes, I'm completely serious. The Iron Duke isn't the greatest engine GM ever put together. However, they were made about the same time as the KA, and comparing the two on engineering and build quality, the Iron Duke wins out. KA's aren't that easy to kill, but the Iron Duke is nearly impossible to kill.

I'm not sure where your loyalties lie, but as far as I'm concerned, I'll recognize good design and construction where it's present, regardless of who made it. Fast+Cheap+Reliable=SBC, some of the greatest engines ever made.

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qat727 wrote:
You've got to be kidding me here. Chevrolet has made better engines than the KA ever aspired to be. Iron Duke for the win.



Dude... you don't get on AIM anymore that I see, and you haven't even seen what I've hauled in lately. I've got 3 240SX's now, in addition to a Chevrolet truck that could pull yours into pieces. I'm not sure why you're calling BS on me, but I've got more car stock taking up space in my driveway right now than you've had a chance to drop to a point of scraping...

Go learn to drive. Come back when you've learned how to hold a civilized conversation.
I wasnt really calling bull****, just trying to get a convo going.

And the reason I havent been on aim is because it some how got deleted and im to lazy to re-download it, but ill will soon.

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Kckouki wrote:
I wasnt really calling bull****, just trying to get a convo going.

And the reason I havent been on aim is because it some how got deleted and im to lazy to re-download it, but ill will soon.
Ahh... sorry if I was a bit harsh then. Don't bother with getting AIM... download Trillian. It's better.

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Ok, I'm not here to make enemies, so I'll agree that chevy did a pretty good job with the ol' dookie monster. Also not knowing for sure what all they put it in besides s-10's and s-15's( for whatever nimrod is about to scream, I'm talking GMC) I can't give a true call of how many I see on the road. But I know I see a buttload of ka's still plucking along. Oh they may be clack-a-lackin, but they aint smokin. All I meant was, that I would not feel safe putting a turbo set up on a chevy four banger with a lot of miles. I just turbo'ed my ka-de with 183,000 miles and I feel quite safe as to how it will take it.

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Wow... I'm used to having people start irrational flame wars. Your civility is refreshing.

The Iron Duke saw use in all sorts of stuff, with variants showing up in Pontiacs in the 70's and various others.

I'm not sure if you're thinking of the 4 cylinder that was used in the later S10's (2.2L, I believe), which was a piece of crap. I'm referring to the 2.5L that they used in the first gen.

KA, as far as I know, traces its lineage back to the Z24 and before. There were some real dogs out of that bunch, but by the time they made it to the 240SX, they were a pretty decent engine. Same is true for the Iron Duke series used in the S-10's... that's pretty much as good as that engine got.

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TheGift wrote:40
That just made my day

It just made sig status.. haha

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well i have an sr on my 240sx... but dont no how to put the boost gauge on... is there an eazy way to put it on.... anybody... and which has more hp a 3inch or 2.5inch exhaust system...

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If i would get a rhd silvia ... how could i make left turns?? extra mirror ???

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... just turn the wheel left.

How do you make right hand turns now?

What is really going to bake your noodle... how will you back up? OR BETTER YET, HOW WILL YOU BACK UP AND TURN?

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Have you guys used the SARD R2D2 Twin Drive Type-2 Blow Off Valve? Is it any good as opposed to say the HKS SSQV or the Greddy Type RS? Thanks.


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PapaSmurf2k3 wrote:... just turn the wheel left.

How do you make right hand turns now?

What is really going to bake your noodle... how will you back up? OR BETTER YET, HOW WILL YOU BACK UP AND TURN?

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Some people come here with the full intention of starting crap. I am not one of those people, although i will take an occasional jab at someone, I try to do it in a fun, jovial way; never mean spirited or generally being an azz.I've always been impressed with how the import engines last as compared to an American engine. American car makers have made some fan-frickin tastic v-8's ,but only a handful of small fuel efficient engines. And a lot of those were not very fuel efficient anyway. I have always wondered how one of the straight 6's from say Chevy or Pontiac would take to being boosted. They were tough as nails, so they should be able to take the pressure, I just wonder if the gains in hp would be worth the cost and trouble involved.

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Zippy69 wrote:Some people come here with the full intention of starting crap. I am not one of those people, although i will take an occasional jab at someone, I try to do it in a fun, jovial way; never mean spirited or generally being an azz.I've always been impressed with how the import engines last as compared to an American engine. American car makers have made some fan-frickin tastic v-8's ,but only a handful of small fuel efficient engines. And a lot of those were not very fuel efficient anyway. I have always wondered how one of the straight 6's from say Chevy or Pontiac would take to being boosted. They were tough as nails, so they should be able to take the pressure, I just wonder if the gains in hp would be worth the cost and trouble involved.
I may have missed it, but what is your question?

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That's a good outlook...

I've heard quite a few folks pondering about boosting American engines. As far as I go, I'm a fan of NA and low revving torquey power, so the only boost that ever really interested me was a supercharger, but never enough to actually buy one.

You should be able to pick up an older engine for cheap enough to try it as proof of concept. One of the old Chevy 250 I6's should be cheap enough to procure that you could boost and blow it without crying.

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Zee wrote:I may have missed it, but what is your question?
I believe it was a reply to my post from a while back:
qat727 wrote:Wow... I'm used to having people start irrational flame wars. Your civility is refreshing.

The Iron Duke saw use in all sorts of stuff, with variants showing up in Pontiacs in the 70's and various others.

I'm not sure if you're thinking of the 4 cylinder that was used in the later S10's (2.2L, I believe), which was a piece of crap. I'm referring to the 2.5L that they used in the first gen.

KA, as far as I know, traces its lineage back to the Z24 and before. There were some real dogs out of that bunch, but by the time they made it to the 240SX, they were a pretty decent engine. Same is true for the Iron Duke series used in the S-10's... that's pretty much as good as that engine got.

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oh ok I got a little lost there.

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Sorry Zee, didn't mean to throw a wrench in the works, I was just pretty sure Gat727 would get my post.Yeah gat I would love to boost an i-6 and the ol' 250 chevy would definitely be pretty cheap. I think I'm way too new at turbo set ups to attempt that one yet, but after I get a little more comfortable with it, then who knows.But I do have a question. Anybody know how to get the clutch fork back in correctly without having to pull the transmission? I think mine must have gotten knocked loose when I re-installed the engine/transmission.

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Zippy69 wrote:Sorry Zee, didn't mean to throw a wrench in the works, I was just pretty sure Gat727 would get my post.Yeah gat I would love to boost an i-6 and the ol' 250 chevy would definitely be pretty cheap. I think I'm way too new at turbo set ups to attempt that one yet, but after I get a little more comfortable with it, then who knows.But I do have a question. Anybody know how to get the clutch fork back in correctly without having to pull the transmission? I think mine must have gotten knocked loose when I re-installed the engine/transmission.
I think I'm going to have to get in touch with a mod to get the Q capitalized on my user name... everyone keeps thinking it's a G

Let me know how it goes if you do turbo an I6... I'd suspect it won't work very well. The GM I6's aren't very high revving engines and usually make most of their power at the lower RPM's. Unless you used a small turbo, I don't think you'd see good results. A supercharger, on the other hand, might work better with that engine.

As for the clutch fork, it's been a while since I messed with one, but if I recall correctly, if the spring hasn't jumped out of place, you can stick a bar or a long screwdriver in, and wedge it back on the ball. If the spring is out, I'm not sure if you can pull the fork out without pulling the transmission or not. I have seen some threads where the pivot ball actually broke off. Hopefully that isn't the case.

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My apologies
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I think I'm going to have to get in touch with a mod to get the Q capitalized on my user name... everyone keeps thinking it's a G
I think the best choice would be Pontiacs' i6. With the overhead cam set up they can get into the upper rpms (high 6's maybe low 7's)There are a few nuts on here that may can give this a try.I've got enough headaches with my car as it is.

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anybody know about seats that will fit in a 240sx not including aftermarket racing seats... even with a little mod i just need someting i can get out of the junkyard

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n1smodr1ft wrote:anybody know about seats that will fit in a 240sx not including aftermarket racing seats... even with a little mod i just need someting i can get out of the junkyard
S14 seats will be your best bet. 95-98 240sx. They bolt right in.
qat727 wrote: I have seen some threads where the pivot ball actually broke off. Hopefully that isn't the case.
Yup, that happened to me. If that is the case, you have to drop the transmission to replace it. SPL parts sells a hardened steel one that I used. No problems since. Good luck.

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yo im in rhode island too.. you got any parts laying around? im workin on a serous project and need pretty much everything...let me know

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Zee wrote:Have you guys used the SARD R2D2 Twin Drive Type-2 Blow Off Valve? Is it any good as opposed to say the HKS SSQV or the Greddy Type RS? Thanks.
Still need an answer on this, please.
n1smodr1ft wrote:anybody know about seats that will fit in a 240sx not including aftermarket racing seats... even with a little mod i just need someting i can get out of the junkyard
Just about anything will fit will modification. I know there was a good one on some 7th Gen. Celica Seats, and another on Evo seats. The most used one is S14 seats, though. So it just depends on what you can get a hold of and how good you are at making things fit if you are doing it yourself. Good Luck.

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Found one on the Celica Seats:

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If you need anything else just ask.


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