You want a PS2...
Why? Because neon-green sucks.
I can't decide....ps2 or xbox
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spec-v5150
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I will agree it could have been better too, but it was a nice break from the Final Fantasy style games. As of late, Final Fantasy holds your hand too much until the end. I remember back in the NES days of playing an RPG and gaining 20 levels because I was so damn lost and all I did was fight trying to find my way. Final Fantasy got story too intensive for me. Final fantasy X-2 is enjoyable, but I think Morrowind and hopefulyl Fable will provide an RPG balance. you can play FF for engroping story, nice graphics and a beautiful ending and then on the flipside play Morrowind or Fable and just go on a massive killing spree.Rockenreno wrote:Yeah, Morrowind was pretty disappointing.
Well really I mean think it over.... PS2 is becoming dated faster than the Xbox for one reason
It also comes down to what you get for your money ... Xbox has much newer and faster and better hardware. (would you buy a computer that was slower for the same price?)
Also I have never seen an Xbox lag or chop on ANY game and I've never had Xbox live lag either.
Maybe the graphic difference is not extremely different but it could be by bump mapping and other means that the Xbox will continue to be able to render while the PS2's dated hardware will continually suffer.
Also you get the hard drive (and yes it is standard IDE so you can add larger hard drives if you choose to , search google it is well documented)
So yes maybe the PS2 looks cooler and has some games that the Xbox doesn't but the PS2 will never have Halo 2 and if you have ever played Halo 1 you will know that this game OWNZ to the extreme. And yes I understand Halo 2 will eventually be on the pc like Halo 1 is now but do you want to be a newb at the game after everyone else has become extremely good at it?
anyway that's it for now... I've used both systems and I would never spend my hard earned money on a dated system when I can get something significantly faster with storage and online capability for the same amount of money that has Halo 2.
It also comes down to what you get for your money ... Xbox has much newer and faster and better hardware. (would you buy a computer that was slower for the same price?)
Also I have never seen an Xbox lag or chop on ANY game and I've never had Xbox live lag either.
Maybe the graphic difference is not extremely different but it could be by bump mapping and other means that the Xbox will continue to be able to render while the PS2's dated hardware will continually suffer.
Also you get the hard drive (and yes it is standard IDE so you can add larger hard drives if you choose to , search google it is well documented)
So yes maybe the PS2 looks cooler and has some games that the Xbox doesn't but the PS2 will never have Halo 2 and if you have ever played Halo 1 you will know that this game OWNZ to the extreme. And yes I understand Halo 2 will eventually be on the pc like Halo 1 is now but do you want to be a newb at the game after everyone else has become extremely good at it?
anyway that's it for now... I've used both systems and I would never spend my hard earned money on a dated system when I can get something significantly faster with storage and online capability for the same amount of money that has Halo 2.
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argments aside, its interesting that microsoft loses money for every xbox they sell because it is so expensive to manufacture (even with using cheap labor from mexico and china).
Its obvious that the Xbox is a more powerful machin with more built in hardware features, I strongly disagree that the games are better. I have clocked over 9 years of use on my sony console products and never once have I felt like my money was misplaced. I have never had to replace anything on either my playstation or playstation2. The abuse put on the hardware by myself and my brothers was/is tremendous: with multiple trips to freinds' houses, 10-hour long game tournaments, drops, spils, heat and constant wear, I'll stick with sony until it does me wrong.
Better hardware makes better graphics, not better games.
Its obvious that the Xbox is a more powerful machin with more built in hardware features, I strongly disagree that the games are better. I have clocked over 9 years of use on my sony console products and never once have I felt like my money was misplaced. I have never had to replace anything on either my playstation or playstation2. The abuse put on the hardware by myself and my brothers was/is tremendous: with multiple trips to freinds' houses, 10-hour long game tournaments, drops, spils, heat and constant wear, I'll stick with sony until it does me wrong.
Better hardware makes better graphics, not better games.
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It is interesting and yet as a consumer a great selling point. I liek the fact that MS bundled in an HDD so I dotn have to buy 3 memory cards. I liek the fact that MS bundled in an ethernet card. I doubt MS will ever make money on the XBox in its current generation. PS2 makes money on consoles sold because sheer popularity. Numbers and popularity equal the exclusive games. It is a double edged sword. I guarantee peopel would FLOCKk to Xbox if say Final Fantasy was on it. It would sell out in droves. But that wont happen because PS2 has Xbox beat in numbers and the japanese arent really feelign the xbox and they own the industry I think...as far as japanese s american/other developers. All teh main developers are japan based with a US subsidary. I think they are both very good quality systems. I despise the gC liek the plague. Biggest waste of money. I am oly awaiting the Final Fantays Chronicles game.
For those who say the PS2 is not outdated, remember the new Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles game that came out? Now what was the biggest complain about that game? I'll tell you. You could only have 2 players at a time, not four. Do you want to know why that is? Because when they made the game, they made it with 4 players but, because the PS2 couldn't handle it, they released it as a 2-player game.
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90Q45blue wrote:For those who say the PS2 is not outdated, remember the new Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles game that came out? Now what was the biggest complain about that game? I'll tell you. You could only have 2 players at a time, not four. Do you want to know why that is? Because when they made the game, they made it with 4 players but, because the PS2 couldn't handle it, they released it as a 2-player game.
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Can you link me to an article that says that?
Regardless, all my favorit games are on the PS2 even if it is a year and a half older than Xbox, and my family owns all 3 systems
J-Spec Tuner wrote:Can you link me to an article that says that?
Regardless, all my favorit games are on the PS2 even if it is a year and a half older than Xbox, and my family owns all 3 systems
Check the Dec. 2003 issue of Electronic Gaming Monthly. It has a nice article on the game and mentions this in there.
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LOL......I am goign on ym 3rd PS2 right now. They wont give me a new one, they want to keep fixing the ****ty *** one. I cant play Madden 2004 or Socom unless I clean all the dust off the fan. I can barely play Final Fantasy X-2. My PS2 is a POS. My Xbox on the other hand is a trooper. Had one game crap out. My XBOX DID break but I chose to buy a new one instead of fixing the old one. Actually I did fix it but I ****ed it up too, so I chose to just buy another.
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Ahem, where's the Gamecube in this debate? I have all three systems and the GC and Smash Brothers Melee and Mario Kart DD are probably the greatest party games, and fighting and racing games respectively, ever. Metroid Prime is the greatest game, console or otherwise, I've played in the last three years, Eternal Darkness ain't too shabby either.
Dont buy that "oh Nintendo-makes-kiddy-games" BS either, they're expanding their library to include more mature titles too. Oh and did I mention that it's the CHEAPEST system by far? I picked mine up at Walmart during the after Thanksgiving blitz for only $79!
The XBox quality is nothing to write home about either. I've never had any problems with my system personally but my neighbor's XBox threw in the towel during a Halo session. Rumor's Microsoft used lower quality DVD drives to cut costs.
Dont buy that "oh Nintendo-makes-kiddy-games" BS either, they're expanding their library to include more mature titles too. Oh and did I mention that it's the CHEAPEST system by far? I picked mine up at Walmart during the after Thanksgiving blitz for only $79!
The XBox quality is nothing to write home about either. I've never had any problems with my system personally but my neighbor's XBox threw in the towel during a Halo session. Rumor's Microsoft used lower quality DVD drives to cut costs.
yeah, i must say, smash bros melee, mario kart, and add in mario party5 are really fun with 4 ppl, me and my friends were having fun playin em until my friends GC died on him last night...... anyhow, if ur into multiplayer games, then the GC might definitely be for u, but i and my friends still believe that HALO is the funnest mulitplayer game out there....
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spec-v5150
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GC isnt here becasue of all the systems it is the gayest (arguably) Sure SSB:M is tight, but after that.....the pickings is slim. Even Nintendo had to halt production because of horribly slow sales. 3rd party developers are pulling games left and right(Sega, EA, and others). In most eyes, Nintendos magic has worn off. No longer are peopel relying on nintendos name anymore. You need to back it up now. Nintenod made a BAD move when one i was backards compatible (how could it cartridge vs cd be but still), and not making it more of a home entertainment system. I am sure peopel watch as many dvd's as they play. Yous oudn liek the nintneod fanboys I used to argue a couple eyars ago. For the most part, the GC IS a kiddie machine. Reference an interview from a few years ago by a top nintendo guy. HE said they are focusing more towards the younger gamer (13 and under) becuae they have "pure" heart for "real" gaming. Nintendo used to get by with their 1st and 2nd party games and shunned 3rd parties, now they welcome them with open arms but it is too late at least for this generation. Also, GC has no clear cut online plans. They would rather focus on the gayness of GBA to NGC connectivity. As gamers get older, so do their needs. I have a GBA and iut gets played every blue moon when I fly. I dont know many adults who walk around with a GBA in their pocket. Online is where it is
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spec-v5150 wrote:GC isnt here becasue of all the systems it is the gayest (arguably)
Hmm...profound observation, indeed. I always had a sneeking suspicion the GC's CD door swung both ways - there was always this disturbing whirring sound whenever I poked the RCA prongs into its rear. Also, anyone else notice how the yellow analog stick and DPad bear an odd resemblence to a pair of cajones?
I won't be as brave as to accuse any of the systems of being "gayer" than any others, afterall what a pair of consenting Gamecube's do behind cabinet doors is their business but what what interests me is gameplay and price-point. True, most GC games are catered to children (Nintendo has been a child-oriented gaming company from day one) but that's not to say it's lacking any quality mature titles - True Crime: Streets L.A., Beyond Good and Evil, Prince of Persia, Phantasy Star, Soul Calibur II, the Tony Hawk franchise, along with an array of sports titles.
Throw in some solid if not mind-blowing Gamecube-exclusive titles like Timesplitters 2, Eternal Darkness: Sanity's Requiem, Zelda, Viewtiful Joe, Mario Sunshine, Mario Kart DD, Monkey Ball, Metroid Prime, Metal Gear Twin Snakes, etc. and the Gamecube's library starts to look very attractive.
True it lacks the large library of the PS2 and even the XBox but true to Nintendo's motto of quality over quantity, it could argued that its library has a lower crap-quality ratio. The only real must-have XBox exclusive title I'm looking forward to is Halo II, a FPS unrivaled by other console shooters but a game that would compare unfavorably to PC shooters like Half-life and Call of Duty.
True, the GC doesn't have online multiplayer but the only mp game I play is Madden 2004 and I'd prefer kicking my friends *** than someone else online, but that's just me.
In the end, each system has its Pro's and Con's but the GC's low price-point and solid library warrants some attention come holiday season.
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Thats it...the HOLIDAY season. From a hardcore gamers standpoint, the GC doeesnt have enough to warrant a purchase. It will be harder to get any quality sports games (EA stopped as did Sega). GC is a good purchase if you like Nintendo games but timesplitters as a nice exclusive....LOL Halo owns that game everyday of the week. Nintneod quality over quantity..........they feed that BS, but I hae played som crappy ****...liek Kobe Bryants asketball game....that was a Nintendo product....I think overall the GC is a lackluster system that is lacking in the features and game department. I own one, but it never gets played...so I am not completely hating....have to have a system my wife feels comfortable playing ala mario sunshine
I was a video game enthusiast over a decade before I could drive and have owned practically every system under the sun and I'm telling you right now that if you can only buy one you have to get the PS2.
1) exclusive titles 4 or 5 times more numerous and they are the marque titles... the FF series (the "real" ones, not the GCN one) the GT series, ICO, devil may cry (1, 2 sucked) Virtua fighter, practically every RPG and plenty of others.
2) even when it's the same game, many times it's out for PS2 many months earlier.
3) Halo and Panzer Dragoon Orta are the only exclusive Xbox games worth paying to own.
4) This graphic/video thing is irrelevant. the point is fun. the graphics discrepancy is not near big enough to hinder fun and coming from a car crew I think it's horrible. the car equivalent is:
"I know drilled and slotted rotors can be worse then blanks but I'm getting them anyway because they will look better"
"My first mod will be a air-venting BOV, I don't care if I stall."
Or it's like picking the RX-8 over the Evo because the RX-8 looks better even though the Evo's got way more potential.
I steered you in the right direction with the wheels right? So believe me when I say if your goal is to impress friends with the best graphics a console can offer presently, get an X-box. If you want to have more fun, get a PS2.
1) exclusive titles 4 or 5 times more numerous and they are the marque titles... the FF series (the "real" ones, not the GCN one) the GT series, ICO, devil may cry (1, 2 sucked) Virtua fighter, practically every RPG and plenty of others.
2) even when it's the same game, many times it's out for PS2 many months earlier.
3) Halo and Panzer Dragoon Orta are the only exclusive Xbox games worth paying to own.
4) This graphic/video thing is irrelevant. the point is fun. the graphics discrepancy is not near big enough to hinder fun and coming from a car crew I think it's horrible. the car equivalent is:
"I know drilled and slotted rotors can be worse then blanks but I'm getting them anyway because they will look better"
"My first mod will be a air-venting BOV, I don't care if I stall."
Or it's like picking the RX-8 over the Evo because the RX-8 looks better even though the Evo's got way more potential.
I steered you in the right direction with the wheels right? So believe me when I say if your goal is to impress friends with the best graphics a console can offer presently, get an X-box. If you want to have more fun, get a PS2.