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illf8ed wrote:I think everyone just needs to start driving on flat highways with no traffic and you'll get great milage like me.
That, or figure out a way to defy the laws of physics and make every trip downhill and downwind both ways....


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longo wrote:
BTW we hav'nt had "Imperial" gallons in Canada for over 30 years, but the inflated number sure looks good to new buyer who don't know better.
You're right -- we've been "metrified" . . . at least those young enough not to know about the "old" sysytem . . . but MPG have always been calculated in the imperial measurement . . . our gallon is bigger than the US's, as you have stated.

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Anyone of any pics of their scanguage installed? I was thinking of picking one up, but don't know where I would put it!

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There are not many good options for installing the Scangauge in a Versa, some people just let them rattle around on the instrument cluster, but that covers a lot of your gauges and the Scangauge is behind the steering wheel, not too easy to re-set or change on the go...(best to have your passenger tinker with the settings while you are dodging rush hour traffic)

I have seen them stuck to a mount down under the dash in front of the shift lever on a little mount that screws under the dash and the Scan gauge Velcro's to that..not bad but a little to far out of the way for my liking.

They do have an optional plug in location so you can have the wire hooked into the right side of the gauge, or the back, so that gives you the chance to be creative.

Not much chance of mounting it up in the sunglasses cubby area, as the wire isn't quite long enough to make the long trip up through the A pillar then under the headliner.

What I did was simply drill a hole in the little CD compartment over the radio, fed the wire through that and down to the OBD2 connection under the dash..that way when the door to the compartment is closed, the Scangauge is secure and out of sight when not being monitered.

To do that you have to pop off the plastic dash lid over the radio, take out the radio (there's a nice ready-made hole directly behind the radio to route the wire) drill the hole in the plastic box, feed the wire through the back and down to the plug in...re-install the radio, front facia plate (that houses the box) pop the top of the dash back on and that's it.

BTW don't mess with the air bag light in the facia, but the fourway flasher switch can easily be disconnected and re-installed when you have the hole drilled for the wire.


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All this hand wringing over Small Car Mileage will be long forgotten when Honda shows up in the North American market with their new deisel engine that when tested in stop and go New York traffic last week, got 34 mpg and an amazing 53 mpg on the highway at 75 mph, with passing power to spare.

The engine is a little 2.2 lt 4 cylinder power plant complete with new, patented exhaust technology that will clear all 50 U.S. State polution concerns.

It was tested in a full sized 4 door 2007 Acura TSX.

(imagine the MPG's possible in a Versa size car)

Should be here in 09'.
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longo wrote:All this hand wringing over Small Car Mileage will be long forgotten when Honda shows up in the North American market with their new deisel engine that when tested in stop and go New York traffic last week, got 40 mpg and an amazing 53 mpg on the highway with power to spare.
That's easy to say if you could afford that Honda. Most likely it will be a much higher priced vehcile then the Versa. All Hondas are expensive!

Anyway on my first tank of gas on my 08 Versa S Auto I got 30mpg.

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I'm interested in the electric Nissans coming to the North American market in two years. If the price is right we'll hang on to our Buick for long trips and trade in the Versa for an electric Nissan to use as our "everyday" vehicle.

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Di Versa Fy wrote:
That's easy to say if you could afford that Honda. Most likely it will be a much higher priced vehcile then the Versa. All Hondas are expensive!

Anyway on my first tank of gas on my 08 Versa S Auto I got 30mpg.
Wasn't nissan planning on bringing diesel powered cars to US? Renault has plenty of diesel powered cars, one of those motors ought to fit in a sentra or a versa/tiida.

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greenwar wrote:
Wasn't nissan planning on bringing diesel powered cars to US? Renault has plenty of diesel powered cars, one of those motors ought to fit in a sentra or a versa/tiida.
Nissan has had a 1.6L diesel Tiida for a while now.... in Japan.

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New federal emissions regulations are keeping a lot of diesels from entering the u.s. Pretty much all the foreign car companies are redeveloping them now to meet the new requirements. you can read all about it, just google it.

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My current data on TrueDelta:

Fill Up Number1: 8.1L/100KM (29.04 US MPG / 34.87 IMP MPG)2: 8.4L/100KM (28.00 US MPG / 33.63 IMP MPG)3: 8.1L/100KM (29.04 US MPG / 34.87 IMP MPG)4: 8.1L/100KM (29.04 US MPG / 34.87 IMP MPG)5: 7.8L/100KM (30.16 US MPG / 36.22 IMP MPG)6: 7.6L/100KM (30.95 US MPG / 37.17 IMP MPG)

My mixed driving consists of: 75% City (50-60km/h) / 25% Highway (80-100km/h)

There appears to be a gradual improvement of fuel economy. My car has roughly 2700km on it so far. Purchased it on the 8th of April, 2008.

6 speed manual Versa SL 2008.

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Glad to hear your milage is slowly improving...one thing the New Car Companies in Canada are now doing is listing the 20% higher than U.S. milage as....MPIG To those in the U.S. it must be confounding that we are still referencing a system of measurement that has been plowed under since the 70's.

While "MPIG" (miles per imperial gallon) might make sense to some, to me it sounds like..... Mypig.

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longo wrote:we are still referencing a system of measurement that has been plowed under since the 70's.
That's becasue many people [even my 20ish son] references mileage in MPG. l/100km? Confusing. MPG is straightforward (#km/ltr would be better)

Imperial MPG references the fact that we are distinctively Canadian (in a snotty snooty "we aren't American we're still colonial") kind of way.

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with my 07 versa SL hatchback CVT (no ABS, if that makes a difference), I've been able to top out at 36/37 MPG with all highway driving, with steady speeds between 70 and 80 MPH. Lots of cruise control, and I think I drafted some semis on i-95 and the Jersey turnpike on the separate road trips that I got those.

Mix of city and highway, I get around 30/31.

If its a lot of short trips, barely warming up the engine, I get 26/27 MPG

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I'm averaging about 28 mpg mixed 50/50 city to hwy. I usually get about 375 miles out of tank before I feel like I have to get gas or risk running out. The fuel light does come on pretty early, so I'm still not entirely sure how much ride I have left on each tank.

The best numbers I've had were somewhere in the neighborhood of 33-34 mpg. I did get 420 miles out of a tank on one occasion.

I feel like my gas mileage has gone down since I went from the 15 inch wheels to the 17s and added the Stillen body kit. Whether or not these adversely affect the mileage, I'm not sure.

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I'm not suprised you are getting very high MPG's in those conditions.

Since I have been monitoring my Versa's performance with a Scangauge, I see a dramatic 10+ mpg jump whenever you reduce the drag with a favorable 'following' wind.

When you slipstream a semi you will also notice the car gets quieter inside, and the MPG's immediatly go up, as the air flow drag on your car gets neutrialized in the huge vacum created behind the truck.

"Tailgating" for whatever reason, is extremly dangerous as you are probably out of the line of sight of the trucks rearview mirrors. He can see what's coming, but you can't, so while you are in the MPG sweet spot, you are also driving blind.

Still, one finds themselves stuck back there in the flying road debris from time to time anyway, but it's a shock to see how much gas we have to burn to over come bad airodynamics.

For really brutal Versa MPG's, try driving the interstate West across New Mexico to Arizona against 45 to 55 mph headwinds.

(21 mpg last time I had to do it)


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HI Ace...not sure about what effect all the changes are to your Versa, but I am posting a helpfull link to a Tire Size Calculator so you can have a look and see if your new tires are actually smaller overall than the OEM's even tho your new rims are larger. If they are, you will see it from the program that shows you the differences.

http://www.miata.net/garage/tirecalc.html

If they are actually larger than stock, you should be getting better MPG's.

However since your V now looks like it's faster than a speeding bullet, my guess is you are also driving it that way...

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Oh, I know the dangers of drafting, but it wasn't exactly a free choice on the turnpike.It was more of a keep up or get run over situation. If you ever have the pleasure (torture?) of driving 95/NJ tpk between DC and Boston, you'll know what I mean.


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[QUOTE=frankohabs]

(#km/ltr would be better)

OK Frank, then, lets say you get 8 ltr per 100 Km..(about 35 MPIG)

Your new reading of #km/ltr would then be 12.5 Km per liter.

Killiliters? not a bad name, perhaps shortend to 12.5 KILTER's?

maybe not...sounds more a like big Scottish Rock Band

Maybe KILLAMIDGE?

Either way, 12.5 km per ltr does'nt instill me with the sense of great economy.

Still sounds like Motorhome Milage to me.

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metric

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I won't be having MPG discussions about the Versa, Fit, Yaris or the other fuel sippers in a few years...after the 2009 Acura with the 53 mpg deisel engine announcement this week, guess who else is coming to town with a MPG winner....Mercedes Benz!

"the most frugal of the bunch, the C 200 CDI, uses just 5.1 liters of fuel to go 100 kilometers. This is equivalent to 46 mpg (U.S.), a rating that is just brilliant in a car of this size and luxury"

My Versa SL CVT has been promised to our Grandson when he graduates from University in 3 years.

Hmmmmm in 2011 what to buy, what to buy....
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I find that most people that are posting their fuel economies are not specifying the US MPG or IMPERIAL MPG, which is the cause of confusion with all the conversions. I think for the sake of discussion, we should all be specifying it as US MPG or L/100KM, the IMP MPG is dated and overstates the fuel economy on cars. Furthermore, I do not think its fair to be comparing reported MPGs in US and IMP against each other.

From what I've read up so far in this thread, I have seen people pit the US MPG reading as reported against other cars that were reported in IMP MPG. For instance, most hybrids that report greater than 50-60MPG from magazines is obvious that they are reporting it in IMP MPG, as in US MPG, these hybrids would only be getting about 40MPG. In this scenario, it wouldn't make sense for a Versa to get 37 IMP MPG to be able to get the same fuel economy as a 40 US MPG Prius.

Therefore, it would be helpful if everyone would specify US MPG or IMP MPG. The only cars that should be able to pull of 40+ US MPG are hybrids. The Fit for instance only gets 1-2 US MPG better than a Versa, so these cars typically float around the 30-33MPG range, which to be honest, is the best we'll ever get from non-hybrids at this sort of price.

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Xtrykr wrote: The Fit for instance only gets 1-2 US MPG better than a Versa, so these cars typically float around the 30-33MPG range, which to be honest, is the best we'll ever get from non-hybrids at this sort of price.
And I would add at this level of safety. (Unless some incredible physics/material-magic is discovered and not cost prohibitive)

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"Nissan plans sell an electric car in the United States and Japan by 2010."

Israel and Denmark Governments are providing big incentives to get people out of Gas Guzzlers and into a car that will get 9999 miles per gallon.

IN this U.S election year....I notice BigOil/Big/Govt isn't saying much.

An oil exec whined to the Congressional hearing on high gas prices this week that their profit was only 4 cents a gallon!

Regular' grade Gas today in Alberta...a major exporter of oil and natural gas to the U.S. costs us $4.92 a U.S. gallon.

In Europe it can cost up to $8.00 a gallon..a number we are well on our way to, as well.

It now costs me $65.00 to fill up the Versa.


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longo wrote:It now costs me $65.00 to fill up the Versa.
wow ive been filling up and its only costing me about $40 us

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Enjoy your "bargain $3.75 a gallon gas" while you can.

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longo wrote:Enjoy your "bargain $3.75 a gallon gas" while you can.
Absolutely nothing to enjoy... it shouldn't be more than a $1.50 a gallon pretty much anywhere in the world. Record profits year after year after year confirms this, imo.

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the f'd up thing about the price of gas is that i dont see any of that profit... i work in the oil fields for crying out loud.... and im currently paying 3.90 per gallon at chevron...

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DejaWiz wrote:Absolutely nothing to enjoy... it shouldn't be more than a $1.50 a gallon pretty much anywhere in the world. Record profits year after year after year confirms this, imo.
Profits are the end result, not the cause. Record prices will always result in record profits.

David

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I average about 32 mpg mostly lead-footed highway miles.

6MT Sedan 23k miles


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